Skip to comments.Comrade Lennon
Posted on 12/06/2010 5:57:04 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
Because it is the thirtieth anniversary of the tragic murder of John Lennon, much nostalgia will be summoned up for Lennon, the Beatles and the times they lived in. The glory days of sixties idealism and innocence will be recalled with misty fondness by aging baby boomers, and those who came along later.
But were the Beatles merely innocent, mop headed,peace loving idealists? As we looked at last week in our previous article, Lennon;Whose Minstrel Was He ?, Lennon was an effective musical evangelist of the sexual revolution, which has wrecked untold millions of lives, in broken health, broken families, illegitimacy, abortion, sexual confusion, etc.
Lennon was also an avid proponent of the drug movement , for which the cost has been incaluculable.Through his music, lyrics, example, and influence it became fashionable to get high with a little help from various friends. Albums such as Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band have been described as drug saturated.
Too often it is ignored or under appreciated that Lennon also was a minstrel for Marx amd Lenin. Through songs such as Working Class hero, Angela, a paeon to Communist revolutionary ,Angela Davis, Back in The USSR Lennon lent his God given talents to Atheistic Marxism.
I really thought that Love would save us.But now Im wearing a chairman Mao badge, thats where its at. Im just beginning to think hes doing a good job. John Lennon (Jan Wenner,Lennon Remembers New York , Fawcett popular library,1971)
As Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band promoted the drug culture, so the 1972 album,Sometime in New Yorkbecame the definitive Communist tract for the Beatles. A January 1981 RollingStone review called it Agitprop, and Sloganeering.
The songs Sisters O Sisters, Angela, Woman Is The N****r of the World evoke communist and feminist anger consciousness. Attica State calls for revolution in view of a true bloody prison uprising. Bloody Sunday denounced Anglo(s) pigs.
In a 1971 Rolling Stone interview Lennon said Working Class Hero his contribution to the revolution and that Chairman Mao was his hero.(The Legacy Of John Lennon, David Noebel, Nelson publishing,pg 76).
Apparently Lennons admiration of Mao wasnt enough for him to want to live in Maos paradise. Even Englands high taxes were too much wealth sharing for John and Yoko, they moved to that evil, oppressive ,capitalist Babylon, the USA and spent some of their large fortune staving off attempts to be deported.
Lennon called for the abolition of all money, police and government yet at hs death he was worth 275 million dollars(1980 value), he owned 25 percent of Apple records,dairy farms in upstate New York, a herd of registered Holstein cattle worth 66 million, several houses, and a 62 foot yacht.
The 1960′s and 1970′s Cold War, was the apex of the twilight struggle between truly oppressive, atheistic Marxism and the free capitalist world.
Marxism, had reduced half of the world to serfdom, and aggressively sought to enslave the rest of it. The capitalist world, in spite of its flaws offered a degree of freedom and upward mobility unparalleled in history.
Lennon, the Beatles, Rolling Stones and a host of other fellow travelers, clearly took the side of Atheistic Marxism, of course from the safe and prosperous confines of the UK and America.
When asked about His radicalism in the early 1970′s, Lennon remarked;
the radicalism was phony, really, because it was out of guilt.Id always felt guilty that I had made money, so I had to give it away or lose it.I dont mean I was a hypocrite, I mean when I believe, I believe right down to the boots But (what I was doing) fighting the American government just because Jerry Rubin couldnt get what he really wanted,- a nice cushy job.(Newsweek,Sept 29,1980)
When America unilaterally gave peace a chance the Communist heroes Lennon had championed, slaughtered Vietnamese and Cambodians by the millions.
Hundreds of thousands of others risked their lives on leaky boats trying to get over to this evil oppressive place, that Lennon denounced, so that they could live in freedom. Hmmm, I wonder if the Beatles wrote any songs about that?
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.(proverbs 30:11-14)
I knew that the lyrics were Communist; e.g., Imagine no religion. It's not hard to do; etc., but I held my tongue and sang the lyrics anyway.
Almost all of the people there at my office party were Liberal so I had nothing to talk about. That is part of the reason I played the piano there instead.
George Martin produced the imagery and texture of The Beatles music that made it so highly original. Otherwise they´d have been here and gone as with most groups who´ve had a shot.
John Lennon blasphemed our Lord in the song “the ballad of John and Yoko” also in the song “Imagine” he said “imagine there is no heaven.” John Lennon was an atheist. IMO, the worst thing he did was that he let Yoko take over his life. Julian (his son) said that Yoko took everything from the Lennon family. She even threw Julian and his mother out of their house in England.
That was a McCartney song. Sheesh.
How about picking on Lady Gaga, Madonna or Bono...at least they haven't been dead for 30years and are still doing all of the bad moral stuff you attribute...one could think exclusively...to John Lennon.
By the way, he didn't have nearly the influence your describe...he was riding a wave but he was not that wave.
And was obviously much more of a Beach Boys parody than a hymn to communism.
I'd say it was more of a tribute.
The Beatles broke up in 1970.
I think Lennon was more of a nihilist than anything.
But even more than that, he was just loony-tunes, a curse carried by many talented people.
The Beatles broke up in 1970.
Shh, he's on a roll...
“John Lennon was an atheist. “
I’ll bet he’s not an atheist now.
He MOSTLY raised himself from the age of 10 onward and never had a strong male influence in his life...well, except for those fellas singing on the radio, something he very early on learned he could do as well, if not better than them.
By the time he was 19 he was "nearly famous" and by the time he was 25 he was the most recognized man in the world.
Nobody ever told him "no".
How could he not be totally screwed up in the head?
But, dam he could sing. A melodic genius.
Why wouldn't The Beatles, and all the rest of the musicians and personalities of the 1960s be remembered by their own generation, why would only the boomers and younger remember them?
Unfortunately the problem with John Lennon is that anyone listened to anything he said. He had some talent as a musician, it’s a shame he was murdered, and he said some pretty outrageous things. I remember pretty clearly. No one should take entertainers seriously as anything but entertainers, but unfortunately they impact the culture because stupid people look up to them as role models and believe that because they can sing, or write music, or act or whatever, that they have some sort of great insight. And of course, most of them are no smarter than the average person, and many of them are far less insightful and quite a bit more self absorbed.
Don't blame Vietnam and Korea on a rock star, blame them on the people in government, and the military and the voting booths, especially blame the 45 to 65 year old leaders.
It was in 1966 that his late bandmate John Lennon announced that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus Christ.
In an interview with the London Evening Standard, Lennon -
who was murdered in 1980 - said: ‘Christianity will go. It
will vanish and shrink. I needn’t argue with that. I’m
right and I will be proved right.
‘We’re more popular than Jesus now. I don’t know which will go first - rock and roll or Christianity-Jesus was all
right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It’s them
twisting it that ruins it for me.’
In like manner, Madonna is shrewd, talented, smart and works hard. She is also a sleaze and a slut.
It is dangerous to dismiss those who are despotic as incapable, ignorant and/or stupid. When we make that mistake we end up with the likes of Clinton, Obama, Hitler, etc.
Think of the lyrics,
"Back in the US . . . back in the US . . . back in the USSR"
My post of the month nomination.
I never understood why people got so hot because Lennon said, “imagine.” Just imagine. It isn’t blasphemous, it isn’t irreverent, it’s just a question - what if? Can’t people, even so-called religious people, imagine a concept? Didn’t anyone go to college? Senior year of high school?
I’m sorry he’s dead and I don’t care if he was left, right, or center. And to be worried about some singer/songwriter’s political and religious beliefs some 30 years after the fact is just a waste of time. Go turn on some music and relax.
As always, follow the money. The really great thing about Bob Dylan is that he’s always admitted it was about the money.
John Lennon, though, was about the money, and he knew it was about the money, but he just wouldn’t say it in public.
He made his money pretending to be against making his money.
Pretty cool trick if you can pull it off. But it does have a price. Hypocrisy. The media would be aghast at anyone calling Lennon a hypocrite, but he was.
About Mao, about communism, about peace and harmony, etc. About everything except his rejection of Christ.
Christ is the stone over which men stumble.
While Lennon read a book on Marx, the quartet practiced in the park....
Don McLean had it right.
Very nice music, until Martin made it great. But I don´t think much for almost any of their music once they´d split up.
And Madonna works hard at being a sleaze and slutt. Though I think her music really stinks. PU!
Not even close...and Lennon didn't write it.
Over the following months he baffled those close to him by constantly praising the Lord, writing Christian songs
with titles like Talking with Jesus and Amen (the Lord’s Prayer set to music), and trying to convert
nonbelievers. He also called the prayer line of The 700 Club, Pat Robertson’s program. The change in his life
perturbed Yoko, who tried to talk him out of it. She reminded him of what he’d said about his vulnerability to
strong religious leaders because of his emotionally deprived background. She knew that if the press found out
about it they would have a field day with another John and Jesus story. John became antagonistic toward her, blaming
her for practicing the dark arts and telling her that she couldn’t see the truth because her eyes had been blinded by
Those close to the couple sensed that the real reason she was concerned was that it threatened her control over
John’s life. If he became a follower of Jesus he would no longer depend on her and the occultists. During long,
passionate arguments she attacked the key points of his fledgling faith. They met with a couple of Norwegian
missionaries whom Yoko questioned fiercely about the divinity of Christ, knowing that this was the teaching that
John had always found the most difficult to accept. Their
answers didn’t satisfy her, and John began to waver in his commitment.
Martin's first innovation was to record them "raw" in the studio...no overdubs, no back-up of any kind except the levels mix.
The Beatles were FAR more talented live they they were in the studio under Martin's OVERBEARING overdubs.
Liked reading this, hope it is true.
I really hope John was saved—I wish I knew...
Seriously - are there any songs more annoying pieces of crap than "Silly Love Songs" and "Wonderful Christmas Time"? Get real. McCartney was and is incapable of cranking out anything but shallow pop tripe. If you don't believe me just grab a copy of "Band on the Run" and have a listen.
It was the team of McCartney and Lennon that made it happen. George Harrison not withstanding, it was Lennon and McCartney constantly pulling in two different directions that gave the Beatles music its sound, and ultimately broke them up.
Paul was and is an excellent musician - his bass work is amazing, and he plays just about any instrument. But his lyric schtick is pop - plain and simple with emphasis on simple.
LOL... oh brother.
The needy, pathetic desire of some on this thread to diss one of the greatest musicians of all time 30 years after his death just goes to show how important he really was.
And who cares that he was an atheist. Freud was a cocaine addict. Mozart was an alcoholic. And Jefferson owned slaves. None of those things lessened the gifts these people gave to us. And it is my firm belief that God Himself will look at their good works, and forgive their failures.
If you know better, then hey, knock yourself out.
Those who have never seen “Spinal Tap” ought really give it a go. Funny movie and there are echoes of John and Yoko in it. Recommended (despite the participation of Leftist idiot, Rob Reiner).
I agree and can say that with certainty, because I actually saw them perform live. With small amps (by today's standards) and limited equipment, they were very, very good live and George Martin was nowhere in sight.
I do too. I don’t wish anyone what awaits them if they don’t.
I guess I fail to understand why ‘Christians’ are much more interested in the lives of famous sinners than ordinary ones.
A Christian has become a new person. Old things are passed away, and all things become new. Personally, none of these balladeers and pretenders, that the ‘world’ labels as ‘stars’, are more special than the averge man on the street.
God calls it being no respecter of persons.
Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse; doesn’t matter how well known they are.
I’m just glad He pulled me out of the mirey clay.
Loved his music hated his politics.
good point, I meant to say something like “post Beatle Beatle” - BTW I am not trying to pick on anyone, I know that there are yet many who are influenced by Lennon et al and want to give another side of the story- thanks for the comment-
you are right, my bad, I should have said, “for the ex Beatle”-
I don’t blame Viet Nam on him, I am only saying that when the USA unilaterally acquiesced to the leftist movement for which he was an advocate, it resulted in wanton slaughter.
what do you mean ?
I am not influenced by Lennon nor have I ever been.
I just admire his amazing talent and can't figure out why anyone, pro or con, would take anything he had to say seriously.
Well I agree,in fact their influence is vast, but are they not of the post WW2 baby Boom?
Wow, that is powerful and wonderful, I hope it is true- God loves everyone, and is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
Zuriel, I don’t care either how famous a person is, I am interested in any saint or sinner God puts in my path, But Lennon still influences a generation , therefore “Wisdom cries out in the streets”. John the Baptist wasn’t un interested in ordnary sinners, but it was Herod whom he called out about his adultery, why? Because as a visible leader he was an example for evil.
I believe you Mariner, when you say you aren’t influenced by him, I am glad to hear that and true I enjoy Bach,Mozart and Beethoven and haven’t been influenced by them in any way that I know of either- I get that. But Lennon did influence millions, with his Atheism, Nihilism, Amoral approach to marriage and sexuality, and hid drug promotion, and as a minister I have a responsibility to adress this from a God centered perspective. Thanks for the comments
Wagner as an anti-semite?
The perverse sexuality of all the female singers of any decade since 1980?
Will you be taking on these folks too?
I'm asking you, directly, why only Lennon?
Do you believe his influence was more than all of theirs combined? Really?
Listen I am not singling Lennon out, in fact I know I am just as much a sinner as him, Ozzy, grace slick or any of the rockers. But as a teachable moment, when the Beatles are prominantly being featured to yet another generation, as a christian minister I feel the responsibility to adress this. One of the posters on this thread actually posted a very hopeful article which implied that Lennon may well have become a christian before he died. I hope so! ,
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