Posted on 12/06/2010 8:12:02 PM PST by Colofornian
In summary the article is envious and resentful of wealthy Mormons and their extra status within their church. When the emotion of envy turns into action, it becomes hate. The hateful action of writing the article is physical evidence of envy, as is the Mormon bashing on FR. I’m not a Mormon, not even religious, but I’m also not a leftist. I despise envy and admire success.
Which "comment" is envious?
You talk about some "party" as "envy-laden" but you didn't address anybody other than me.
And my only comments in post #1 was:
Comment b Hmm...I wonder how many "poor" general authorities there are in the Lds church were picked as paycheck-worthy general authorities?
(You're not implying that I'm envious the Lds general authorities didn't pick me-- a non-Mormon-- to be a general authority, are you?)
Comment a: There. Proof that the "prosperity gospel" didn't start with a few TV preachers! It goes back at least 180 years to Joseph Smith and his Book of Mormon!
NO Mormon envy there...I'm an equal-opportunity critic of the "prosperity gospel" -- I don't think it belongs in any church no matter what sign is on the door.
Comment c: Well. How would movies like A Christmas Carol and the Utah-based movie, The Ghosts of Dickens Past go over in Mormonland based upon the MWA?
So what? A Christmas Carol is now a tale of "envy" per you? Really?
But actually, I don't think your accusation of "envy" was addressing my comments at all.
And if you were addressing a specific poster, why ping me or only me?
No, if you'd been provoked by something supposedly "envious" said by a poster, you would pinged them.
You didn't.
Which really means you're addressing the author of this article. And that tells me that before you even commented, you didn't bother to look to see who wrote it.
So again, It was written by a Mormon on a Mormon Web site. Yet you spun this into an "us" vs. "them" thing instead of portraying this as a "them" vs. "them" thing.
Your comments need definitive clarification.
We are quite often tasked by the Religion Moderator with providing source links when we make specific claims like this. Please do provide a link to proof that "the Mormon advantage is scientifically real". Thanks
My comment was about the envious article, not specifically your comments. You posted it so you get the comments not directed at someone specifically.
You have a point about the evils of mixing prosperity and gospel but the Mormons in general do not seem evil to me. They seem to be maximizing their success, which invokes envy. Envy is the driving destructive force behind modern leftism.
Thank you for the clarification.
So let's dissect your "comment" -- knowing it was geared for the article:
This reads like an envy pity party. Much of the hate towards Mormons and Jews comes from envy about their ambition, wealth, and success.
Wait a minute. This was a Mormon authored piece on Mormon Web site. (So Mormons are "hating" themselves??? What?)
Your comment cont'd: While the Mormon religious beliefs can't be proven, the Mormon advantage is scientifically real. Mormon churches can be ostentatious but they advertise not just religion but success. Maybe we should spend some time studying why many Mormons do succeed in life rather than trying to bring them down a notch or two.
But again, I didn't write the article or originally post that article on the wheat and tares Web site. Mormons did. So Mormons are "trying to bring" down other Mormons "a notch or two"???
I'm sorry. But you don't do well playing the Mormon victim-game here. Perhaps you aren't a Mormon. (They seem to be better at it than you are)
Oh?
I just LOVE science!
Got any DATA to prove what you just claimed?
It mattereth not how one succeeds in life; doncha know.
It is how one succeeds after DEATH that is all important.
One man's envy is another's admiration; I guess.
You spelled DEVINE wrong.
Dang... I wonder why???
I’m not a Mormon, not even religious, but I’m also not a leftist.
Hang around: you might get 'religion' yet!
The Mormons don't seem to do THAT much better...
Percent |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mormon |
non |
|
Cash Average |
Mormon |
Non-Mormon |
26 |
31 |
<30K |
$25,000.00 |
$650,000.00 |
$775,000.00 |
21 |
22 |
30-50K |
$40,000.00 |
$840,000.00 |
$880,000.00 |
38 |
30 |
50-100K |
$75,000.00 |
$2,850,000.00 |
$2,250,000.00 |
16 |
18 |
>100k |
$200,000.00 |
$3,200,000.00 |
$3,600,000.00 |
|
|
|
|
|
$7,540,000.00 |
$7,505,000.00 |
The difference is one is healthy competition and good, the other is unhealthy and evil.
I'm not for Mitt Romney. For one thing he wants it too bad, but I wish I had 10% of his ambition. Where does he get it? Most likely vanity, a Cardinal sin. Sarah Palin is much more attractive in that respect and others.
If I could become religious I would. The many advantages are real. I've tried but I just don't have the basic gift of faith.
They should control for location, Utah, and family size. Kids are expensive. The Jews outperform Mormons economically but that may be partly genetic. For thousands of years leftists have set out to kill the Jews in envy. The Einsteins tend to get away leading to a slight population IQ boost each iteration.
And the source is?
He wants because he is working to godhood.
What? You have an "evilmeter?" Do you have patented it for the world to access?
Think of what the TSA could do with an evilmeter applied to lines of waiting fliers. (They could do away with their groping marathon & radiation-causing machines)
Just one question on your "evilmeter" machine? Does it measure the inside of people or is it only based upon outward detection?
(Ya know I was thinking of Jesus encounters with the legalistic Pharisees, whom he said outwardly, unless your righteousness exceeded theirs, you would in no wise inherit God's kingdom...Yet inwardly, he compared them to filthy dishes and whitewashed sepulcres...so it's a bit "vital" that you have something more than some mere outward detection...after all, if people are auditioning for godhood like temple Mormons, they, too, would be on their best outward behavior!)
“In summary the article is envious and resentful of wealthy Mormons and their extra status within their church. When the emotion of envy turns into action, it becomes hate. The hateful action of writing the article is physical evidence of envy, as is the Mormon bashing on FR. “
I disagree.
Not envious.
Not resentful.
I disagree that action that comes from envy MUST be hate.
Writing an article is not hate.
MormonISM bashing is not hate.
It appears you missed the point of the article.
It would appear that you must be wearing hate-glasses through which you are viewing the world.
I’ve seen people that see racism everywhere.
This hatist thing is a new one...
Then there is something that is taking its place.
When you figure that out; you're hhalfway there.
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