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Piecing Together the Ark
THE ARC ENCOUNTER ^ | DECEMBER 1, 2010 | ADMIN (The Arc Encounter)

Posted on 12/07/2010 7:57:43 PM PST by Walt Griffith

As the account of Noah’s Ark and the Flood continues to capture the imagination of all sectors in America, nearly every culture boasts well-known accounts of a massive flood that has elements very similar to the biblical Flood (going back even to the time of the Babylonians).

In November, 2009, a CBS News survey revealed the finding that the remains of Noah’s Ark would be the greatest archaeological discovery of our day. CBS News stated: “CBS’ 60 Minutes news program, in conjunction with Vanity Fair magazine, recently conducted a web survey asking which archaeological discovery people would most want to see made next. The response: Noah’s Ark (43%), Atlantis (18%) Amelia Earhart’s plane (16%), Nixon’s lost tapes (13%), and Cleopatra’s barge (5%).” [1]

The article continued: “Noah’s Ark continues to capture the imagination of the general public, and this interest spans all social, religious, and economic segments. The Ark and the Flood is one of the few historical events which are well known in the worldwide global circle.”

The ministry leaders at Answers in Genesis (AiG) began discussing the idea of assembling virtually the same team that designed and built the Creation Museum, to have them start researching and then building a full-scale Noah’s Ark.

(Excerpt) Read more at arkencounter.com ...


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1 posted on 12/07/2010 7:57:47 PM PST by Walt Griffith
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To: Walt Griffith

The response: Noah’s Ark (43%), Atlantis (18%) Amelia Earhart’s plane (16%), Nixon’s lost tapes (13%), and Cleopatra’s barge (5%).”

I would think that the corpses of the Roswell Aliens and the Body of Jimmy Hoffa would have at least made 1%.


2 posted on 12/07/2010 8:00:35 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
I would think that the corpses of the Roswell Aliens and the Body of Jimmy Hoffa would have at least made 1%.

Holy Grail?

3 posted on 12/07/2010 8:06:33 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Walt Griffith
Even if the Ark is found, and it can be confirmed beyond all doubt that it is the Ark, the people who do not want to believe will still not believe.

Jesus performed many miracles and many of the people who saw them with their own eyes did not believe. Other non-believers continued to insist for some kind of sign, and even after He was resurrected from the dead after 3 days they still did not believe.

Seeing the Ark will mean nothing, and quite frankly, looking for it is a fruitless endeavor, as Christians are instructed not to base our beliefs on relics or other physical objects, but rather on the Word and that alone.

4 posted on 12/07/2010 8:10:39 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Walt Griffith

Would someone please tell me what would the replica look like. No Hollywood creation but a copy of what? Pictures? Dig the thing up, then copy it please.


5 posted on 12/07/2010 8:13:06 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: GraceG

0bama’s birth certificate?


6 posted on 12/07/2010 8:14:25 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
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To: GraceG
Since it was a poll of the general population it would be mathematically impossible since the media represents less than 1%.
7 posted on 12/07/2010 8:16:58 PM PST by Walt Griffith
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To: pnh102
Seeing the Ark will mean nothing, and quite frankly, looking for it is a fruitless endeavor, as Christians are instructed not to base our beliefs on relics or other physical objects, but rather on the Word and that alone.

Amen Brother! So many want a sign, but by Faith alone are we to believe.

8 posted on 12/07/2010 8:18:03 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Poison Pill
I would think that the corpses of the Roswell Aliens and the Body of Jimmy Hoffa would have at least made 1%.

Obama's college transcripts?

9 posted on 12/07/2010 8:18:47 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Walt Griffith
Noah's Ark almost undoubtedly rotted away thousands of years ago.
10 posted on 12/07/2010 8:22:30 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Walt Griffith

nearly every culture boasts well-known accounts of a massive flood that has elements very similar to the biblical Flood (going back even to the time of the Babylonians).


Gee, could this be because they all experienced very bad floods at some point in time? Not necessarily one that covered the Earth, however.


11 posted on 12/07/2010 8:29:47 PM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: plain talk

I don’t know about that. At that altitude it could have survived, and depending on the mineral content of the earth it could have petrified and remained under the ice for thousands of years.


12 posted on 12/07/2010 8:38:28 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Let Gulf Beach Club)
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To: GraceG

Al Capones’ extra-secret-even-from-Geraldo Vault


13 posted on 12/07/2010 8:40:03 PM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
So many want a sign, but by Faith alone are we to believe.

As for The Flood... I have not yet re-read the story (my wife and I are going through the New Testament but we would like to go back to the Old Testament once we wrap up the New Testament). But based on what we've read about Jesus, I am beginning to conclude that why should there have to be any scientific evidence that The Flood, as described in the Old Testament, occurred at all?

If with God, all things are possible, then surely He could cover the entire planet with water for 40 days and nights (how all that water would be present on the Earth would defy the laws of physics, as even if all the major ice caps and glaciers melted, there would still be land), drain it, clean things up, and leave no trace of the same. These things are completely impossible to do in a human or any scientific context. Scientific evidence of The Flood would another one of those signs that non-believers keep asking for.

Using science to "prove" the existence of God is pointless... we are taught that God cannot be seen by humans. I would think that our resources are better spent teaching the Gospel to people who are in need of salvation instead.

14 posted on 12/07/2010 9:05:50 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
Using science to "prove" the existence of God is pointless... we are taught that God cannot be seen by humans. I would think that our resources are better spent teaching the Gospel to people who are in need of salvation instead.

I couldn't agree more!

15 posted on 12/07/2010 9:11:13 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Walt Griffith; All

It is hard to imagine a more absurd waste of Christian money.


16 posted on 12/07/2010 9:30:09 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: I am Richard Brandon

A half-size replica:

http://tinyurl.com/28dku7r


17 posted on 12/07/2010 9:34:23 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Walt Griffith
I'm under the assumption that a more relevant find would be the Ark of The Covenant. I can't believe it didn't even make the list!

Oh, and Nixon's Lost Tapes! LOL! What are they? A bunch of liberals? How about Zero's BC?

18 posted on 12/07/2010 9:40:01 PM PST by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: Walt Griffith

How ‘bout something REALLY serious such as what the meaning of the word “is” REALLY is ...???


19 posted on 12/07/2010 10:26:10 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: pnh102
"(how all that water would be present on the Earth would defy the laws of physics, as even if all the major ice caps and glaciers melted, there would still be land), drain it, clean things up, and leave no trace of the same. These things are completely impossible to do in a human or any scientific context. Scientific evidence of The Flood would another one of those signs that non-believers keep asking for."

I too pondered how a world wide flood could have been possible. One thing I had to change is my thinking of the world prior to the flood. The world we presently see has no resemblance to the pre-flood word.

Here's a web site I think you might find interesting. It gives reasonable answers that don't defy the laws of physics while GOD still remains the creator described in GENESIS.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/

20 posted on 12/08/2010 12:16:40 AM PST by FW190
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To: rbg81
21Every living being on the earth died—every bird, every animal, and every person. 22Everything on earth that breathed died. 23The Lord destroyed all living beings on the earth—human beings, animals, and birds. The only ones left were Noah and those who were with him in the boat. (Genesis 7:21-23)

Seems God says it was the entire earth.

God Bless

21 posted on 12/08/2010 7:28:05 AM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: jeffc

That ark has been found. It is in Africa. I read it on WND.


22 posted on 12/08/2010 7:32:39 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: GraceG

Since the Ancients took Atlantis to the Pegasus Galaxy we will not be finding it anytime soon. Until a ZPM is found to give enough power to the gate to get there.


23 posted on 12/08/2010 7:34:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Vegasrugrat

well except, you know, the fish. They probably had a blast.


24 posted on 12/08/2010 7:35:22 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

I guess that is probably true?


25 posted on 12/08/2010 7:38:08 AM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: FW190
It gives reasonable answers that don't defy the laws of physics while GOD still remains the creator described in GENESIS.

I am leery of attempts to reconcile the laws of science with the power of God. For one thing, while God's Word has remained constant throughout all time, science changes based on how we as humans interpret it or learn more from it.

For example, 500 years ago, our top scientists believed that the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the Earth. Even to this day, there is great disagreement in the scientific community as to how things work in our world.

Secondly, God is not bound by any laws of physics or any other restrictions. From a Christian perspective, He can simply just do it and be done with it. If we have faith in God, then we do not need to go through all the efforts to "prove" that He can do all the things that He says He can do, and did do, or "reconcile" the things that God does with the limitations imposed by science.

26 posted on 12/08/2010 7:42:07 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
500 years ago educated people not only knew the world was round, they knew how far around it was.

The argument Columbus had with the scholars of his day was not over the shape of the Earth, but its size. The scholars of the day were using the figure of Eratosthenes, and were telling Columbus (correctly) that he would never make the distance to India.

Columbus, for reasons of making his journey to India feasible, argued that the figure of Eratosthenes was inaccurate and overly large.

Columbus was wrong, but lucky for him and his crew, there was a big land mass (and some islands) in the way.

27 posted on 12/08/2010 7:48:16 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

;-) Thanks for saving me the keyboarding.


28 posted on 12/08/2010 7:52:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

[ Since the Ancients took Atlantis to the Pegasus Galaxy we will not be finding it anytime soon. Until a ZPM is found to give enough power to the gate to get there. ]

More worried about Destiny these days....


29 posted on 12/08/2010 8:24:07 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Yea, well Destiny is moving to slow for me. I have about given up. I keep hoping the have killed LDP off but the sucker keeps coming back.


30 posted on 12/08/2010 9:39:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: pnh102
I gave you a christian resource to check out....I did NOT ask for your holier than thou, I have more faith than the average christian attitude.
31 posted on 12/08/2010 10:32:08 AM PST by FW190
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To: FW190
I gave you a christian resource to check out....I did NOT ask for your holier than thou, I have more faith than the average christian attitude.

I'm exhibiting no such attitide. I was just giving my opinions on the subject.

32 posted on 12/08/2010 10:41:26 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: FW190
I am just saying that I am concerned with ideas that try to sync science with faith in God. If new believers do that, and the science on which they build their faith crumbles, then their faith in God is shattered. That is the main reason why I take the "faith alone" route with regards to whether or not God can do these things.

I am not trying to portray myself as some sort of expert in the subject... but it just seems counterproductive to me to try to sync up science and faith, and then go on to using that as a basis for accepting the Scriptures as the Truth. I would think that God would want us to accept Scripture as being His inspired Word, and then go from there.

I sincerely apologize if I came across as suggesting your faith or convictions as a Christian are somehow weakened because we do not see eye-to-eye on these types of things.

33 posted on 12/08/2010 10:51:06 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ANGGAPO

Sure but that’s an ‘edge’ case. There isn’t a lot of wooden anything from thousands of years ago left. Termites. I said “Noah’s Ark almost undoubtedly rotted away thousands of years ago.” I didn’t say it was impossible that it survived. I find it odd that people would waste so much time and money looking for something with a low probability of surviving.


34 posted on 12/10/2010 5:38:46 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk
Noah's Ark almost undoubtedly rotted away thousands of years ago.

Some of it probably did. However what ever that was would be unrecognizable as a part of the Ark (and probably charcoal). The Ark was most likely cannibalized immediately by Noah and Company. They didn't have anything else. The Ark was used for shelter and firewood.

35 posted on 12/10/2010 5:52:09 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


36 posted on 12/10/2010 5:54:42 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Pelham

I’m not sure the Ark was a “boat” as in that replica. A better design would be more of a half submersible designed to pitch and roll. Round out the bulkhead in that design and it’s probably closer to the original.


37 posted on 12/10/2010 5:54:48 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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Thanks Captain Beyond.
CBS' 60 Minutes news program, in conjunction with Vanity Fair magazine, recently conducted a web survey asking which archaeological discovery people would most want to see made next. The response: Noah's Ark (43%), Atlantis (18%) Amelia Earhart's plane (16%), Nixon's lost tapes (13%), and Cleopatra's barge (5%).
I wonder what else was on the list? Frankly these top five include three duds. Naturally, I'd have Atlantis at the number one spot; at or near the number two spot would be the diplomatic archive at Troy; the Ark of the Covenant would be right up there; Noah's Ark might be in my top ten. Nixon had lost tapes? I thought it was just 18 missing minutes on an existing tape.

Ordinarily I wouldn't ping this (and might not even add this to the catalog), but this could spark some interesting "top ten" ideas. Thanks again CB.

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38 posted on 12/10/2010 6:44:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Exactly what I thought when I first read this piece.

Noah’s Ark....yes
Nixon’s tapes??? wth?

Ark of the Covenant not even mentioned?

Those 2 (Noah’ ark & ark of the covenant) plus anything from the Roman Empire or anything from ancient shipwrecks would round out my list even though I can’t cite ‘specific’ individual events/discoveries.

It’s all fascinating....(except Nixon’s tapes LOL!)


39 posted on 12/10/2010 6:54:52 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (Lock & Load-Coming to a Neighborhood near you)
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40 posted on 12/10/2010 7:20:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Outlaw Woman; SunkenCiv

Cayce’s Hall of Records

I wanna know who did the trilithon work and how they did it.


41 posted on 12/10/2010 7:23:22 PM PST by bigheadfred (STAND IN THE CLOSET AND SCREAM WITH ME)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I’d like someone to find a bunch of triremes. This has been looked for, but no one has found any on the sea floor, say, near the Battle of Actium. I don’t think any will ever be found, because they were built so light (they were oar-powered, and high-speed) that after getting rammed, their parts continued to float. Too bad I guess.

The big grain haulers of Roman times (and actually, during the heyday of the Athenian Empire, which was built on trireme might) could be found, and that would be fantastic. Those are said to have been around 100 tons displacement, but the Romans moved 200+ ton obelisks from Egypt a number of times, plus large numbers of 100+ ton columns for buildings, by sea, I suspect the grain haulers were much larger than 100 tons.

My dream job would be to find and thoroughly examine (in situ) a Roman wreck that went down with an Egyptian obelisk. It could be that none ever went down though — the Romans have an undeserved reputation for poor seafaring ability, despite the fact that they rid the Seven Seas of piracy for centuries.


42 posted on 12/10/2010 7:26:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: bigheadfred

Heh... Cayce...

Good idea though, Egypt, with a Cayce connection... the chamber or tunnel that has actually been detected under the front of the Sphinx would be in my top five.

Also, the possible Houdin spiral ramp inside the Great Pyramid (although I think he’s only partially right about his scenario).


43 posted on 12/10/2010 7:43:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Walt Griffith; SunkenCiv

Builders plans and tools used for the great Pyramids of the world.

Alexander’s tomb.

Burial places of Jimmy Hoffa and Judge Crater.


44 posted on 12/10/2010 8:51:03 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That would be an awesome discovery. I wonder if there are those that are actively searching for wrecks (beside treasure hunter type individuals).
It’s all extremely engrossing to me. To see some of the things that have already been discovered would be fantastic but alas I must read about discoveries.

What exactly is your field? You seem extremely knowledgeable on ancient history...was it a major/minor for you in college?


45 posted on 12/10/2010 10:32:28 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (Lock & Load-Coming to a Neighborhood near you)
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To: SunkenCiv

"The Lenormant Relief, from the Athenian Acropolis, depicting the rowers of an aphract Athenian trireme, ca. 410 BC. Found in 1852, it is one of the main pictorial testaments to the layout of the triremes."

46 posted on 12/10/2010 10:44:04 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (Lock & Load-Coming to a Neighborhood near you)
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To: jeffc

a more relevant find would be the Ark of The Covenant

Amen. Especially if the contents are still extant - Aarons rod, manna and pieces of the Ten Commandments, written by the ‘finger-of-God’...


47 posted on 12/11/2010 4:54:46 AM PST by Paisan
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To: FW190

Nice link.
Are you aware of the “canopied earth”? The earths atmosphere was filled with water creating a barrier of sorts. I have heard about it and was wondering how the preflood people would be able to see the stars.


48 posted on 12/11/2010 6:06:09 AM PST by winodog
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To: Outlaw Woman
It's amazing and amusing that the actual proclamation inscription regarding the evacuation of Athens ahead of the Battle of Salamis was found in the 20th c during some renovation work in (I think it was) an old café.
49 posted on 12/11/2010 6:14:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

It would have been my minor, I’m not sure what my real minor was. But I took so many history classes that it could easily have been my major. :’)


50 posted on 12/11/2010 6:15:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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