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Mormon Lies that can blind us
Mormon Chapbook ^ | Mike Tea

Posted on 12/11/2010 11:46:45 AM PST by delacoert

In our conversations with Mormons we are bound to test what they believe about key issues and how they stand on things we might have heard about Mormonism. It pays to know that it is easy for a Mormon, on the pretext of giving you “milk before meat”, or simply because they don’t know their own faith very well, to be disingenuous in their answers. Here are a few typical “answers” on key subjects:

GOD

“We believe in the same God as you. ‘We believe in God the eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost’(Mormon First Article of Faith)” 

Although it has the appearance of a Trinitarian confession this does not come close to what Mormons believe about God. Joseph Smith, the founding prophet of Mormonism, said: 

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man…It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God…and that he was once a man like us…and you have got to learn to be Gods yourselves…the same as all Gods before you." (King Follett Discourse)

THE BIBLE

“Of course we trust and believe in the Bible” This, again, is a disingenuous answer. The Eighth Article of faith of Mormonism declares: 

"We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God" 

The Bible is the only book of Scripture in Mormonism that is regarded as unreliable and its content is only respected so far as it appears to confirm the Mormon message. The message of Mormonism, such as their teaching on the nature of God, is brought to the Bible and if the Bible does not agree then it is the Bible that is considered wanting. While the Book of Mormon is considered the book of the restoration the Bible is regarded as the book of the apostasy.

OTHER CHURCHES

“We are Christians and respect other Christian denominations. We would never attack other churches as some attack us.” The Book of Mormon however declares: 

"Behold, there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth" (1 Nephi 14:10) 

There doesn’t appear to be any room for “other denominations” here and it might be worthwhile asking a Mormon which church they think you belong to. Certainly, anyone who has studied Mormonism knows that it is founded on harsh and uncompromising attacks on other churches. In his official history Joseph Smith uncompromisingly declared that God said of other churches:

All their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ‘the draw near with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.’” (Joseph Smith History, 1:19)

It seems Mormonism “doesn’t play well with others” despite their protestations to the contrary.

POLYGAMY

“Of course Mormons aren’t polygamists. We renounced polygamy in the nineteenth century and those who practice it today have nothing to do with us.” 

Two things worthy of note: 

1. Polygamy is still an integral part of Mormon Scripture. Mormons might argue that the practice of circumcision is part of Christian Scripture but is no longer practised. This is comparing apples and oranges because circumcision was a mark of the Old Covenant, which was superseded by baptism under the New Covenant in Jesus Christ. Polygamy, however, is taught as an eternal principle and regarded as the order of heaven. It is described as the “new and everlasting covenant”: 

"And again, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant…they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation. Then shall they be gods." (D&C 132) 

The reference to Mormons becoming gods by the “new and everlasting covenant” is instructive in light of what we have already seen of the teaching that men become gods. While the familiar Salt Lake City Mormons do not currently practise polygamy, it seems it will be reinstated, if not in this life then in glory.

It seems that the polygamist groups currently denounced and disowned by SLC Mormons are just keeping the practice warm for the day when all Mormons return to the principle. Meanwhile it is not uncommon for a SLC Mormon male to be “sealed” to more than one wife in the next life while practicing monogamy in this.

It does seem less than honest to deny liability when the very texts that teach polygamy still form an integral part of Mormon “Scripture”.

There is a curious irony in the fact that the familiar SLC Mormons have much in common with breakaway polygamist groups and yet they deny any family connections, instead trying at every turn to associate with the Evangelical Christian Church, with which Mormons have nothing in common.


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Lies are at the foundation of Mormonism. The seed and roots of Mormonism are all vile. A foul fiction sold by a money digger, diviner, and con man, Joseph Smith.

Religious faith needs a foundation that can be trusted. Ex-Mormons uniformly testify that at the heart of all the reasons they have for leaving is the discovery of the lies, fictions and wickedness.

In other words, broken trust.

1 posted on 12/11/2010 11:46:50 AM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

So... are you on a quest to destroy some particular religion you disagree with?

If so, why? What’s your motive? You do seem ‘obsessed’ with the subject.


2 posted on 12/11/2010 12:01:00 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: delacoert; T Minus Four
A foul fiction sold by a money digger, diviner, and con man, Joseph Smith.

You forgot serial adulterer.

3 posted on 12/11/2010 12:02:47 PM PST by 4mer Liberal
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To: delacoert

Gee, yet another Mormon-bashing thread. Can you feel the hate?


4 posted on 12/11/2010 12:03:33 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: delacoert

“God was once as we are now.” - Book of Mormon

“In the beginning was the word. And the word became flesh and dwelt among us.” - Book of John, New Testament

Not a mormon and don’t believe in mormonism. However, I don’t see a problem with the above statement.


5 posted on 12/11/2010 12:05:36 PM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I've posted my confession which answers your question.
6 posted on 12/11/2010 12:07:50 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

“Lies are at the foundation of organized religion.”

FIFY


7 posted on 12/11/2010 12:08:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: UCANSEE2; delacoert
So... are you on a quest to destroy some particular religion you disagree with? If so, why? What’s your motive? You do seem ‘obsessed’ with the subject.

delacoert can correct me if I'm wrong, but my bet would be that they are attempting to shine the light of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ onto the cockroach of lies which is Mormonism. Forgive the crassness of my illustraion, but we are talking about the eternal damnation of souls brought forth by the lies of the money digger and convicted con man Joseph Smith.
8 posted on 12/11/2010 12:09:05 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Hoodat

Callong star Kolob....calling star Kolob....come in, Kolob...are you there, Elohim?

Merry Smithmas, y’all!

;^)


9 posted on 12/11/2010 12:13:46 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I don't like Islam and I don't trust Muslims.")
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To: 4mer Liberal

Let’s not leave out bank fraud.


10 posted on 12/11/2010 12:17:09 PM PST by Scanian
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To: UCANSEE2
Though that question was not posed to me, I'd like to answer it.
The most critical focus on mormonism and the most critical commentary of mormons is that they call themselves "Christians".
They are not "Christian" believers since they do not believe in the actual Christ of the Bible.
They believe in a made-up Christ from the bogus works of Joe Smith.
By the way, I studied astronomy in College and could never find Planet Kolob.

Here's a great site to find ALL about mormonism, written by folks that know it well.
11 posted on 12/11/2010 12:19:48 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: rickomatic

Here is an article which might help explain the hystrionics of Mr. Glenn Beck:

http://mrm.org/white-horse-prophecy

EXCERPT:
“[Joe] Smith allegedly gave numerous predictions in this prophecy, but the portion that is most repeated speaks of a day when the Constitution of the United States will ‘hang by a thread.’ It will be ‘preserved and saved’ by a White Horse, A.K.A. the Mormon Church.”

Is Glenn afflicted by messianic delusions? Does he see himself as the rider on Smith’s “White Horse?”


12 posted on 12/11/2010 12:24:20 PM PST by Scanian
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping


13 posted on 12/11/2010 12:25:42 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (T Roosevelt said speak softly, carry a big stick. Obama’s talking trash and carrying a broken stic)
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To: NoRedTape

I personally know several Mormons and they’re all very nice....too nice. There’s something very plastic about Mormons personally, sorta like watching an episode of a 1950’s sitcom.


14 posted on 12/11/2010 12:29:27 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Why are you putting quotes around that. The author of the OP does not write that and neither do I.

If you mean to indicate by quotes that some other source is being quoted, then please provide the citation.

If you are posing the statement to represent your own sentiments, then lose the quotation marks and add arguments to support your case. Heck, if you feel confident enough, why not start your own FR Religion forum thread.

15 posted on 12/11/2010 12:34:54 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

All baloney propaganda.

Addressed a thousand times.

Nothing new and not a valid issue in sight.


16 posted on 12/11/2010 12:36:43 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: All
Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you?

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 


17 posted on 12/11/2010 12:37:32 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: delacoert
Unfortunately, what you speak is truth.

Two of my daughters married Mormons (one is still married, the other divorced) in the Temple in Utah.

Only after they had agreed to marry in the Temple (forbidding any of the non-Mormon family to attend ceremony) did either find out exactly what all is involved.

Of course, daughter still married has yet to tell me of ceremony but divorced daughter has divulged all. It stands to reason why non-Mormons are forbidden to attend any Temple ceremony, including a marriage.

Stupidly, I, thinking of how Mormons are such "family-friendly" people, had no reservations about their marriages until I found that none of the daughters' families (we are all of protestant faiths) would be allowed to attend ceremony - but we were welcome to wait outside to "greet" the newly married couple, oh, and yes pay for all, including the ceremony!

I also have found that the "family friendly" Mormons steer much away from the non-Mormon family.

Having met a few Mormons who have left the church are virtually estranged from the Mormons in their family and even "laid off" of businesses owned by Mormons, even if they are family members. It's truly unreal - somewhat akin to Amish and their shunning. As a "former Mormon" you are considered an "outsider" and therefore no longer part of the extended family. Unlike people who have never been Mormons and therefore potential church members, former Mormons will no longer "attain the Celestial Kingdom" that they work so hard to attain.

You are also correct when you state that while Mormons claim that they are "also Christians," in fact they do NOT believe that others are.

Ask any Mormon you know if they believe that YOU are a Christian. If that person is more than a "new believer," they will either steer the conversation elsewhere or give a non-answer unless they aren't close to you.

I do not intend to give offense but to clarify what Mormons believe about non-Mormons of any faith. You either belong to the "true church" or you do not and are therefore not Christians.

19 posted on 12/11/2010 12:45:59 PM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Paragon Defender

Nice post PD - filled with all of the poignancy and detail that we've come to expect from you.

20 posted on 12/11/2010 12:46:29 PM PST by delacoert
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To: NoRedTape
Thanks for providing a decent explanation.

May I point out that most Christian believers 'know' that Jesus had blonde hair and blue eyes.

Christian believers have a lot of 'made up stuff' in their 'religions' as well.

Those details are not what's important anyway. It's the CONCEPTS put forth that GOD is trying to 'reveal' to us.

As far as the notion of Kolob, again these are only ways that a different religion explains the unexplainable.

The Christian 'view' of heaven is merely what someone still on the material plane believes that spiritual existence is like.

While fanciful and pretty, it's not 'the truth'. We can't yet 'understand' the truth.

21 posted on 12/11/2010 12:48:44 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Scanian
Is Glenn afflicted by messianic delusions? Does he see himself as the rider on Smith’s “White Horse?”

Perhaps not but heads are going to explode around here when (not if) he endorses Romney.

22 posted on 12/11/2010 12:49:18 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: All

I believe God knows the hearts of all, be they Mormon or Catholic or Protestant.

As for condemning other churches, etc., Jesus said something about those not with us being against us. I think only God and His angels are qualified to separate the wheat from the tares, no?

I believe if someone is sincerely seeking, God is able to bring them to Himself and does. I have no idea how God feels about the Christ that Mormons teach about, but I remember the widow who put her last two mites into the Temple that crucified Christ, and Jesus applauded her.

God knows the heart, whether we’re being deceived or misled, God knows our hearts.

So tell me what is it about the Jesus Christ of the Mormon church that would cost a Mormon their salvation? Do they believe He died and rose again and paid for our sins? Yes or no?

Because that’s the Jesus that I know and the Bible writes of. And if someone is confused about who His brother is (I think they think Satan is?) does that change what Christ did?

If leaders of any church mislead others, he will be dealt with. But the flock that puts their trust in Christ, puts their trust in Christ.

As far as I know the rest are just details.

(except for the universalist unitarian church, anyone who goes there HAS to be putting their hands over their eyes and know that they are)


24 posted on 12/11/2010 12:51:02 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: delacoert; NoRedTape

I saw that on your home page. You have a very nice and extensive home page. I distrust posters who won’t even make one. I didn’t get time to read that particular link, as it took me forever just to get through the rest of the page.

Post 11 seemed to be a nice, concise explanation, and I accepted it as a very reasonable and honest response.
(Thanks NOREDTAPE)
Unless you object to that explanation.


27 posted on 12/11/2010 12:55:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: delacoert

((((UCanSee2)))) nice testimony.

That part at the end though, that list, that’s not a manifesto right? It’s what you believe?


28 posted on 12/11/2010 12:56:15 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: UCANSEE2

Ideas are not equal by simply being held. Sheer numbers do not validate an idea. Ideas should be scrutinized and revealed for what they are - particularly since Mormonism is gaining ground in its political influence.


29 posted on 12/11/2010 12:58:54 PM PST by Frapster (ugh)
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To: Jen Shroder

I googled Jen Shroder last night and one result was your syndicated columns, which was what I was looking for, however, clicking that got me a whitened out result and I had to close the program just to be able to do anything else.

I tried several times with the same result.


32 posted on 12/11/2010 1:04:17 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Are you kidding me? That pro-abortion progressive? That would be the end of Beck.


33 posted on 12/11/2010 1:05:37 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: MuttTheHoople

There are lots of “nice” people.

Being “nice” doesn’t do anything to save them.

And as you allude, there are different motivations in people as to why they are being “nice”. Some think they are earning their way to salvation. Others realize there’s nothing they can do to earn it, accept it, thank God for providing Christ as the way for ALL to be saved, and try to live a Godly life as best they know how, out of gratitude for what Christ has done for them.

A finite being (humans) cannot pay off their infinite debt (sin against God’s eternal law). All need Christ as Savior.


34 posted on 12/11/2010 1:07:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jen Shroder
"As for condemning other churches, etc., Jesus said something about those not with us being against us."

He said it both ways. Take your pick.

Matthew 12:30 - “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."

Luke 9:49-50 - “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”

35 posted on 12/11/2010 1:07:13 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: delacoert

Great article delacoert, and we see this type of word games all the time here.


36 posted on 12/11/2010 1:07:19 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Hoodat

Feel the hate or see the truth? Double dog dare you to cite one indisputable hateful thing in the article.


37 posted on 12/11/2010 1:08:29 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: ozzymandus
Because Andy Levy on “Redeye” said it, ridiculing intolerant bigots like you.

What about me do you find bigoted? and who is Andy Levy and how could you know how to spell what he was saying aloud? Why would you quote him here when he hadn't been mentioned and it didn't pertain to the subject at hand?

38 posted on 12/11/2010 1:08:44 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: rickomatic
onto the cockroach of lies which is Mormonism.

So... are you a Mormon?

39 posted on 12/11/2010 1:08:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2; Religion Moderator

May I point out that most Christian believers 'know' that Jesus had blonde hair and blue eyes.

Source for that comment? Link? Statistic?

Christian believers have a lot of 'made up stuff' in their 'religions' as well.

Specifics? Sources? Links?

Those details are not what's important anyway. It's the CONCEPTS put forth that GOD is trying to 'reveal' to us.

Specifics? Source?

As far as the notion of Kolob, again these are only ways that a different religion explains the unexplainable.

Source? Link?

The Christian 'view' of heaven is merely what someone still on the material plane believes that spiritual existence is like.

Source? Link? Specifics?

While fanciful and pretty, it's not 'the truth'. We can't yet 'understand' the truth.

Provide YOUR "truth" and let's see if we understand it.

Usually the Religion Moderator requres that sources and links be provided for generalized comments.  However, if this is just your opinion,  it would be helpful if that is stated.

 


40 posted on 12/11/2010 1:09:28 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (T Roosevelt said speak softly, carry a big stick. Obama’s talking trash and carrying a broken stic)
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To: Paragon Defender; All
Seekers of truth


41 posted on 12/11/2010 1:10:47 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Graybeard58

really?

I’ve been wondering if I’m not on the government internet hit list. Certain pages are going off the charts, I think they’re looking for reasons.

My site is not that well known, but I get so many hits from the Middle East, Arab Emirates, my exposure of Islam in the textbooks and Clinton’s part in it along with the state department...I know they don’t like me.

I hope that’s not why you got hung up. Thanks for letting me know.

and btw, if I am, you know they’re gunning for reasons to hit freerepublic. This is an awesome site.


42 posted on 12/11/2010 1:11:16 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Hoodat

>>> Gee, yet another Mormon-bashing thread. Can you feel the hate?

I wonder how Mormans would react to a “New” prophet allegedly originating from Morman ranks who claimed that he saw God while on a camping trip, and that God told him that Mormonism had lost it’s way and had become an ABOMINATION before Him, and further directed this new prophet to re-discover the gold plates and write the book of mormon again from scratch.

What if this new book of mormon then proceeded to describe abomination after abomination committed by the previous mormon believers including Joseph Smith, and then established a new order which teaches doctrines completely contrary to traditional mormon beliefs?

Then.... If the traditional mormons do react by attacking the claims of the new prophet, should the new prophet call it “religion bashing”???

Who is bashing who here? The BOM IS the epitome of religion bashing and worse... it is the hijacking of a religion (or faith) as well.

If Joseph Smith had spun a completely different yarn that did not involve traditional Christianity at all, that would be one thing. What he did do is another.


43 posted on 12/11/2010 1:11:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: GourmetDan

Thanks Gourmet. :)


44 posted on 12/11/2010 1:13:34 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: MuttTheHoople; NoRedTape
There’s something very plastic about Mormons personally, sorta like watching an episode of a 1950’s sitcom.

As a youngster, my first impression of Mormons was that they were similar in practice to the Amish. At least the adults.

Most of the Mormon kids I knew were anything BUT the angels their parents thought they had.

45 posted on 12/11/2010 1:14:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Jen Shroder

Jen -
Mormon Jesus is a created being, elder brother (literally) to humans as well as brother to satan. The mormon Jesus is not God the Son, He is but one of a plethora of ‘gods’ in the mormon pantheon of gods. The mormon Jesus cannot save one from their sins - mormons must become sinless before the grace of Jesus can be applied.

There are many more things many mormons believe about Jesus that are more disputed but the above are clear - the Jesus of mormonism is not the same as Christianity.


46 posted on 12/11/2010 1:16:32 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Jen Shroder
I think only God and His angels are qualified to separate the wheat from the tares, no?

__________________________________________

NO

47 posted on 12/11/2010 1:17:21 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Safrguns

I haven’t seen Mormons bash the Bible, is that true? I haven’t seen it. If so, the leaders will have a lot of ‘splainin to do.

Bottom line, do Mormons believe Jesus died and rose again in payment for our sins? Because I believe if the foundation is Christ, and God knows the hearts, then any leader of any denomination is going to be in trouble for misdirecting the flock, but the flock will still be His if they put their trust in Christ.

What is there about the Mormon church that denies the glory and power of Jesus Christ?

The rest just sounds like noise to me, like battling over speaking in tongues or a thousand different other differences between denominations.


48 posted on 12/11/2010 1:18:08 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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I think only God and His angels are qualified to separate the wheat from the tares, no?
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No angel would presume to do the work of God...

The angels worship the LORD Jesus Christ...

They dont surplant Him in His right to be Judge...


50 posted on 12/11/2010 1:19:03 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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