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Ecumenic threads are closed to antagonism. To antagonize is to incur or to provoke hostility in others. Unlike the “caucus” threads, the article and reply posts of an “ecumenic” thread can discuss more than one belief, but antagonism is not tolerable.

More leeway is granted to what is acceptable in the text of the article than to the reply posts. For example, the term “gross error” in an article will not prevent an ecumenical discussion, but a poster should not use that term in his reply because it is antagonistic. As another example, the article might be a passage from the Bible which would be antagonistic to Jews. The passage should be considered historical fact and a legitimate subject for an ecumenic discussion. The reply posts however must not be antagonistic.

Contrasting of beliefs or even criticisms can be made without provoking hostilities. But when in doubt, only post what you are “for” and not what you are “against.” Or ask questions.

Ecumenical threads will be moderated on a “where there’s smoke, there’s fire” basis. When hostility has broken out on an “ecumenic” thread, I’ll be looking for the source.

Therefore “anti” posters must not try to finesse the guidelines by asking loaded questions, using inflammatory taglines, gratuitous quote mining or trying to slip in an “anti” or “ex” article under the color of the “ecumenic” tag.

Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.

1 posted on 12/11/2010 4:16:06 PM PST by narses
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To: narses; shurwouldluv_a_smallergov; Judith Anne; rkjohn; PadreL; Morpheus2009; saveliberty; ...

Jesus’s divinity is not dependent on Mary’s being sinless. Quite the contrary, the reason for this sinlessness is:

1. in God’s presence, sin cannot stay, it is destroyed.
2. Jesus in the womb was still Jesus Christ, Lord and God.
3. To protect the bearer of God, she had to be made filled with grace and she had to be made free of sin — for her to be able to bear the Lord

Now her own parents being sinful did not affect this as Mary is just a creature, and sinlessness being in contact with sinfulness does not affect sinlessness (e.g. a newborn baby in contact with a sinful mother), but the blazing power of God that destroys anything that is tainted with sin, if that is kept in a box/womb which has even a slight stain of sin, that box/womb will be destroyed.

~ by Cronos


2 posted on 12/11/2010 4:18:12 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses
Mary’s Song of Praise: The Magnificat (Ecumenical)
Magnificat: The Hymn of the Blessed Virgin Mary [Catholic Caucus]
The Prayer of the Virgin Mary, The Magnificat - The Canticle of Mary
MARY SINGS THE PRAISES OF GOD’S MERCY [Magnificat, Canticle of Mary]
The Magnificat: Mary’s Own Prayer
Prayer and Meditation: Magnificat anima mea Dominum
Story of the Little Prayer Book That Could (George Weigel on the Magnificat [magazine])
8 posted on 12/11/2010 8:10:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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