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Earth: Rock of Ages or Young Planet?
Inspire Tomorrow ^ | Dec. 15, 2010 | Rosemarie Thompson

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:17:34 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican

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To: IamCenny; Peter from Rutland
Because science refutes God, not all science, there are exceptions of course, but for the most part, science refutes scripture.

All of science is an attempt to explain and duplicate that which GOD did FIRST.

61 posted on 12/15/2010 6:31:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: paladin1_dcs
Me: Indirectly, it does point to 6,000 years.

? Here is your exact words....

the Bible when it says the good Lord made the Earth 6,000 years old?

62 posted on 12/15/2010 6:31:53 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: eastforker
Also, if prior to the “sin” of adam, and death did not exist, why did he make both male and female of all the species?

What does one have to do with the other? Did you read the part about "Fill the earth" ??

Why would there be a reason to procreate?Talk about suspension of belief!

What does one have to do with the other? Did you read the part about "Fill the earth" ??

Why would gender even become an issue if there was no death?

What does one have to do with the other? Did you read the part about "Fill the earth" ??

You are trying to make a claim based on a faulty assumption.

63 posted on 12/15/2010 6:32:08 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: winodog
"I find it incredible that highly educated people think we evolved from sludge or apes."

"Which theory of evolution are you talking about?

"...What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology.

A theory is a metascientific elaboration distinct from the results of observation, but consistent with them.

By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory's validity depends on whether or not it can be verified; it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.

Furthermore, while the formulation of a theory like that of evolution complies with the need for consistency with the observed data, it borrows certain notions from natural philosophy.

And, to tell the truth, rather than the theory of evolution, we should speak of several theories of evolution.

On the one hand, this plurality has to do with the different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution, and on the other, with the various philosophies on which it is based.

Hence the existence of materialist, reductionist, and spiritualist interpretations.

What is to be decided here is the true role of philosophy and, beyond it, of theology.

Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider _the spirit_ as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person. ..."

Excerpted from:

Theories of Evolution
John Paul II
Copyright (c) 1997 First Things 71 (March 1997): 28-29. Address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, October 22, 1996

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64 posted on 12/15/2010 6:33:28 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: paladin1_dcs

Please refrain from posting any facts when you are answering evos ... their deep understanding of math and physics easily confuses them.


65 posted on 12/15/2010 6:35:25 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: JAKraig

Without even addressing the linguistics of creation, if what you say is true, then you still have the issue of death and sin to deal with. Before their sin in the Garden, there was no death in the world. If that’s the case, where did coal and oil originate from?


66 posted on 12/15/2010 6:35:27 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: SeeSac

LOL

bttt


67 posted on 12/15/2010 6:37:12 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: CynicalBear
I agree with that view as well. The Hebrew construction in Genesis 1:2 is such that an event of enormous magnitude had to occur between the initial creation in verse 1 and the formlessness (bohu and tohu) found in verse 2. I believe in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 we find the answer.
68 posted on 12/15/2010 6:37:12 AM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: SeeSac

You may want to check again, I didn’t say that. I commented on your reply to someone else.


69 posted on 12/15/2010 6:37:13 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: CynicalBear

The Earth as it was previously was ruined by the fall of Lucifer. The correct interpretation of Genesis 1:2 is “And the World became “Hayah” without form and void”. In Genesis God was making things right again, so Genesis is not the literal beginning. Geneses even discusses the Earth being replenished, which implies a previous existance.


70 posted on 12/15/2010 6:39:12 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: gop4lyf

Im a YEC ... but you bring up a question that I have never seen asked before.


71 posted on 12/15/2010 6:40:01 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

As far as the Polystrate trees, let’s just say the Earth has undergone major cataclysmic changes, many times in the past.


72 posted on 12/15/2010 6:40:27 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: spetznaz

Well put.


73 posted on 12/15/2010 6:41:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: paladin1_dcs
You may want to check again, I didn’t say that. I commented on your reply to someone else.

OK. But since you used "Me" and totally misquoted both the other guys and my words and totally misrepresented the meaning of my words by your distortions, I didn't bother to notice that it was not your words. Now I know.

Please apolgize for misquoting me and thus altering the meaning of my words. Thank you.

74 posted on 12/15/2010 6:43:33 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: dartuser

I’ve seen it before and while it does seem to answer the issue, it really doesn’t since it doesn’t answer the issue of fossils. Death didn’t enter until after the fall, so if there’s no death, there’s no fossils.


75 posted on 12/15/2010 6:43:54 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: massgopguy
"One of the three scientists that decoded the Human Genome .."

That would be Dr. Francis Collins, the founder of Biologos.org

76 posted on 12/15/2010 6:44:11 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: gop4lyf
How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden? Since God originally designed them to live forever, then theoretically couldn’t they have been in the Garden for millions, if not billions of years?

We know that God brought all the animals before Adam for Adam's evaluation as a mate. That must have taken at least a few days ...

77 posted on 12/15/2010 6:44:58 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Sure, as soon as you admit that you’re in over your head when it comes to Biblical Infallibility and it’s effects upon Salvation.

Otherwise, I stand by what I said. You don’t even realize that you’ve made a fool out of yourself by insisting on errors in the Scriptures.


78 posted on 12/15/2010 6:46:43 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: SeeSac
You can't even get this right. Their suitability as a mate was NOT the reason they were brought before Adam.
79 posted on 12/15/2010 6:48:19 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: gop4lyf
How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden ?

I will answer with a question ... and that should give you the answer.

What would be the population of the Earth after a million years if none of the people died?

80 posted on 12/15/2010 6:49:08 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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