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Ariz. Hospital Loses Catholic Status Over Surgery
The Washington Post ^ | 12/21/10 | Amanda Lee Myers

Posted on 12/21/2010 12:30:48 PM PST by marshmallow

PHOENIX -- The Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix stripped a major hospital of its affiliation with the church Tuesday because of a surgery that ended a woman's pregnancy to save her life.

Bishop Thomas Olmsted called the 2009 procedure an abortion and said St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center - recognized internationally for its neurology and neurosurgery practices - violated ethical and religious directives of the national Conference of Catholic Bishops.

"In the decision to abort, the equal dignity of mother and her baby were not both upheld," Olmsted said at a news conference announcing the decision. "The mother had a disease that needed to be treated. But instead of treating the disease, St. Joseph's medical staff and ethics committee decided that the healthy, 11-week-old baby should be directly killed."

St. Joseph's does not receive direct funding from the church, but in addition to losing its Catholic endorsement, the 697-bed hospital will no longer be able to celebrate Mass and must remove the Blessed Sacrament from its chapel.

In a statement, St. Joseph's President Linda Hunt said the hospital will comply with Olmsted's decision, but she defended its actions.

"If we are presented with a situation in which a pregnancy threatens a woman's life, our first priority is to save both patients. If that is not possible, we will always save the life we can save, and that is what we did in this case," Hunt said. "Morally, ethically, and legally, we simply cannot stand by and let someone die whose life we might be able to save." ad_icon

The woman is in her 20s had a history of abnormally high blood pressure when she learned of her pregnancy. After she was admitted to the hospital with worsening symptoms, doctors determined her risk of death was nearly 100 percent.

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1 posted on 12/21/2010 12:30:50 PM PST by marshmallow
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“Ariz. Hospital Loses Catholic Status After Abortion”

Fixed the title. Damn media.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 12:33:11 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: marshmallow

The poor young lady still has a 100% probability of dying. Too bad the child did not have a chance at living.

Relativism is a poor trade off at best.


3 posted on 12/21/2010 12:34:10 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: marshmallow
St. Joseph's does not receive direct funding from the church, but in addition to losing its Catholic endorsement, the 697-bed hospital will no longer be able to celebrate Mass and must remove the Blessed Sacrament from its chapel.
4 posted on 12/21/2010 12:41:51 PM PST by verity
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To: surroundedbyblue

“Ariz. Hospital Loses Catholic Status After Prenatal Infanticide”

Fixed it better.


5 posted on 12/21/2010 12:45:53 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: marshmallow

Good. (I was born in that hospital!)


6 posted on 12/21/2010 12:59:17 PM PST by fullchroma (Please go!)
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To: Manly Warrior

What if nothing was done and she died anyway. You can’t keep an 11 week fetus alive outside the womb. They both will have died.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 1:01:17 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: marshmallow

Ok.... How come we never see this?: “Senator/Representative ______________ Loses Catholic Status After Support for Abortion.”


8 posted on 12/21/2010 1:02:27 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: ReverendJames
The article covered that answer...

"In the decision to abort, the equal dignity of mother and her baby were not both upheld," Olmsted said at a news conference announcing the decision. "The mother had a disease that needed to be treated. But instead of treating the disease, St. Joseph's medical staff and ethics committee decided that the healthy, 11-week-old baby should be directly killed."

9 posted on 12/21/2010 1:09:26 PM PST by fml
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They didn’t say what was needed to treat the disease which in the article said was high blood pressure. They didn’t say what caused it. The mother could have died before the treatment (whatever it was) took effect thereby killing both.


10 posted on 12/21/2010 1:16:22 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames

It can be understood by the actions of the church that they disagree.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 1:24:08 PM PST by fml
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To: fml

Ok, granted. But again. If the treatment failed both mother and infant would have died. Was there a physician on the Catholic board that decided this?


12 posted on 12/21/2010 1:26:26 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: marshmallow

Radical treatment for high blood pressure. God Bless the Bishop.


13 posted on 12/21/2010 1:30:27 PM PST by mom-7
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To: ReverendJames
I assume there was a physician on the Catholic Board.

Since the hospital and the mother decinded no treatment was to be done, we will never know if treatment could have saved the lives of them both. Seems to me that at 11 weeks and the mother not being on deaths bed we will never know.

Link to earlier article

"An unborn child is not a disease. While medical professionals should certainly try to save a pregnant mother’s life, the means by which they do it can never be by directly killing her unborn child. The end does not justify the means," he added... "The direct killing of an unborn child is always immoral, no matter the circumstances, and it cannot be permitted in any institution that claims to be authentically Catholic," he concluded.

The determination to kill the child should have been the absolute last resort to save the mother if necessary and not a choice of convenience

14 posted on 12/21/2010 1:42:44 PM PST by fml
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To: fml

Ok, well in this case I defer to the medical staff and not to the Church. It’s easy to pontificate about morality (armchair quarterbacking) when not actually in the situation. Were there priests or whoever that decided actually there to see what the situation was? Where were they? In some office someplace far removed from the scene? Did they have in front of them the diagnosis and prognosis data? Or did they just condemn the hospital out of hand?


15 posted on 12/21/2010 1:51:37 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames
Bishop Thomas Olmsted called the 2009 procedure an abortion

Given the timing, I would think the Church looked at every angle before making this decision.

16 posted on 12/21/2010 1:54:38 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: ReverendJames
Ok, well in this case I defer to the medical staff and not to the Church.

okay--people have a right to do this... and because the staff at this hospital did what they did, they can't use the "Catholic" label... that is what was taken away...

Were there priests or whoever that decided actually there to see what the situation was? Where were they?

that does not matter... as he said:

The end does not justify the means," he added... "The direct killing of an unborn child is always immoral, no matter the circumstances, and it cannot be permitted in any institution that claims to be authentically Catholic," he concluded.

the church is simply standing by its beliefs in this case...

17 posted on 12/21/2010 2:04:58 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: ReverendJames

Fair enough. But we also don’t know if they simply took the easy way out. The Chuch pulled affiliation, thats all. Catholics do not and cannot condone abortion. When the case legitimately comes about that only one can survive the mother then is then saved unless she chooses otherwise


18 posted on 12/21/2010 2:09:35 PM PST by fml
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To: Mr. Bird

I’m sure.


19 posted on 12/21/2010 2:10:21 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: marshmallow
PHOENIX -- The Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix stripped a major hospital of its affiliation with the church Tuesday because of a surgery that ended a woman's pregnancy to save her life.

No bias at the Post, uh uh.

20 posted on 12/21/2010 2:12:24 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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