The mystery of ancient man: Lost civilizations

Creation Ministries International ^ | Steve Cardno

[Purrsiancat]

Did visitors from space help build the great pyramids of Egypt and Central America?

Is advanced technology from an alien civilization needed to explain how ancient man could move huge stones, build monumental structures, create intricate artwork and organize complex cultures? Some think so, because of their evolutionary belief that ancient man was ‘primitive’.

If evolution were true, the further back into history we look, evidence should show a gradual decline in man’s intelligence, moving closer to the ape’s. Biblical creation would indicate otherwise. Man, created in God’s image, has always been intelligent. People make discoveries and invent things, and this knowledge is passed on and built upon. In this way, technology can increase within a society, but this is not because people become more intelligent.

[wendy1946]

The evidence piling up over the last two decades strongly indicates that the civilization before the flood was a multiplanetary civilization, most likely centered on Mars.

[Nabber]

OK.............................

Put down the mouse, and move slowly away from the screen.

Now.

[King Moonracer]

I remember voting for Ming....

[King Moonracer]

I remember voting for Ming....

[crazyhorse691]

Well, that explains where men came from...dare I fall into the trap and ask where women come from.

[crazyhorse691]

my ? mark disappeared!!!

[null and void]

How much evidence of our civilization would survive an ice age?

[Lee N. Field]

If evolution were true, the further back into history we look, evidence should show a gradual decline in man’s intelligence, moving closer to the ape’s.

The cause of arguing for creation is not helped by a bad argument. You know why this is bad, don't you?

[wendy1946]

NASA has been playing some sort of a double game wrt this Martian stuff and it's hard to even figure out their motives since you'd think there'd be money in it, but it blows their ideas about cosmology and the history of our system. Given standard theories, Mars would always have been too far out to draw warmth from the sun and too small to hold an atmosphere via gravity. Nonetheless nature does not do straight lines or Bezier curves on a three mile scale.

[Tallguy]

The evidence piling up over the last two decades strongly indicates that the civilization before the flood was a multiplanetary civilization, most likely centered on Mars.

OK I'll bite. What pre-flood evidence are you referring to?

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

It did not come from another planet. It did not come from Mars. Life did not drift on to Earth on meteorites.

[IYAS9YAS]

I remember voting for Ming....

Not me. Too much of a narcissistic personality and man, was he ever paranoid. Plus, I just didn't like his tax plan. If he didn't like your offering, he executed you.

I much prefered Dark Helmet. Merciless, but really too incompetent to do much harm.

[oh8eleven]

Life did not drift on to Earth on meteorites.
No soup for you!

[numberonepal]

Life may very well have been brought to Earth (when it wasn't the Earth we now know) from a colliding celestial body. This idea in no way rejects Genesis. The Epic of Creation was not about a battle of mythical gods, but a celestial battle between planets and satellites.

See my short explanation from the Thread Earth: Rock of Ages or Young Planet?

[numberonepal]

Annunaki Ping!

[PUGACHEV]

I don't know what is going on either with NASA and Mars, but I am convinced that the Mars Rover photographs have been manipulated to obscure certain details. I've been a Photoshop user since 1994, and I am familiar with the the tell tail signs left behind when you use the Clone Stamp and the Smudge Tool. When I looked at the Rover photos released on the NASA website, I could see evidence that both had been used.

[Jonah Hex]

Nah, we need somebody who will do something about illegal Aliens...

[King Moonracer]

I see my Schwartz is as big as yours.

[ZX12R]

It did not come from another planet. It did not come from Mars. Life did not drift on to Earth on meteorites.

Scientifically speaking, I don't think life coming from space could be ruled out. I do think that it coming here from another of our planets could probably be ruled out, though.

[eastforker]

For those of you who believe that all mankind decended from Adam and Eve, please explain how orientals, caucasions and other races evolved from them. Orientals are not black or hebrew and caucasions are not oriental or black or neanderthal..Please explain how these races came to be.

[eCSMaster]

Uhhh, is that an image of Jesus?

[numberonepal]

I do think that it coming here from another of our planets could probably be ruled out, though.

What about the possibility of life being seeded on Earth from a celestial collision?

[GOPJ]

ping

[ZX12R]

Please explain how these races came to be.

Long periods of geographical separation maybe?

[airborne]

*bookmark*

[crazyhorse691]

I agree with you on the game NASA is playing(an increased funding ploy?), but, having spent more time than I want to think of in the outdoors of the western US, I have seen some weird formations that from a distance appear to defy your statement about lines/curves...up close, not so much.

[eastforker]

Are you saying that traces of genetics or DNA just vanished from their bodies?

[wendy1946]

That’s because too many of those Spirit probe photos show mechanical debris strewn across the sands as well as building foundations, structural timbers and the like. Try doing a google search on ‘pia04995’ and download the hires (25mb) TIF version of the NASA image which turns up and check out the lower right corner area of the image.

[ZX12R]

What about the possibility of life being seeded on Earth from a celestial collision?

If I understand your question, I think it would have had to be a collision with something (rogue/life bearing) encountering our solar system.

[wendy1946]

What about the possibility of life being seeded on Earth from a celestial collision?

Any sort of an ancient alien theory as to life getting onto Earth originally just kicks the can a block or two down the road as far as evolution/evoloserism goes. No such theory can answer the mail for the Haldane dilemma or the amounts of time it would actually take for our present biosphere to arise ala Darwin/Gould if that were possible (it isn't).

[KamperKen]

"What about the possibility of life being seeded on Earth from a celestial collision"

That was largely Watson and Crick's as well as Hoyle's opinion, that life originated "elsewhere".

[ZX12R]

Are you saying that traces of genetics or DNA just vanished from their bodies?

No, just that they acquired changes unique to their isolated populations.

[Quix]

THANKS THANKS.

[mmercier]

The only thing that interests me is how the intricate carvings within Egyptian tombs were accomplished with no traces of carbon within pitch black tunnels.

I seriously doubt any aliens have visited Earth.

We are probably the aliens to them that have always been here.

[eastforker]

No, just that they acquired changes unique to their isolated populations. Wouldn't that be, according to your explanation, evolution. And all this was supposed to take place in a matter of just a couple thousand years?How long ago was it that Noah’s genes repopulated the earth???

[Purrsiancat]

Thanks, Lee. I see some problems with the argument but find the article interesting nonetheless with many good points.

[ZX12R]

I think I'm missing something here. I don't understand why you are asking me these silly questions, but I'll answer anyway:

Wouldn't that be, according to your explanation, evolution.

Yes.

And all this was supposed to take place in a matter of just a couple thousand years?

I believe the earth is billions of years old.

How long ago was it that Noah’s genes repopulated the earth???

I don't believe that the flood in Genisis destroyed all mankind except for Noah and his associates.

[eastforker]

My original question was to those that believed all mankind originated with Adam and eve.It’s evident that you don’t and you have an inquiring mind.

[ZX12R]

My original question was to those that believed all mankind originated with Adam and eve.

Okay, I missed that part. That explains things.

Merry Christmas!

[killermosquito]

I remember watching a show once about the search for civilizations that were lost to sea and the researcher said that they look for 90 degree angles because they do not occur naturally in nature.

[numberonepal]

If I understand your question, I think it would have had to be a collision with something (rogue/life bearing) encountering our solar system.

Exactly. See the link to my explanation in post #15 above - Earth: Rock of Ages or Young Planet?

[numberonepal]

There is evidence of a "jump" in human evolution - possibly brought on by genetic manipulation.

Haldane's Dilemma shows that not "enough" genes could have substituted in the human species since the last common ancestor with other apes.

[John Valentine]

OK. Did that. Looked as directed at the lower right part of the picture...

I see no evidence of ancient Martian life, other than a apparently discarded 2008 Obama campaign button.

And we all know how “intelligent” that turned out to be.

[Lees Swrd]

A quote from the book they were giants “ There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men [had sexual relations with them], that they bare CHILDREN to them, the same became MIGHTY MEN which were of old, men of renown” (Gen.6:1-4).’
Seems to me a book I have been reading for years told us all of this and the truth was written down for us thousands of years ago all we have to do is read this book with an open mind. All of these new age shows and books are not really telling us anything new, I like to watch the shows and read the books but really nothing new is in them.
To me the giants, mighty men, men of renown meant they were very smart and did great things like building wonders of the world they did things of renown.

[count-your-change]

Looks to be a case of Martian acne. As for:

“Nonetheless nature does not do straight lines or Bezier curves on a three mile scale.”

Sez who?

[Flag_This]

"The only thing that interests me is how the intricate carvings within Egyptian tombs were accomplished with no traces of carbon within pitch black tunnels."

They did it with mirrors. That's the theory anyway.

[Purrsiancat]

I agree with that; we didn’t start on Mars. I believe God created us here to live on earth.

[varon]

.............dare I fall into the trap and ask where women come from.

Not sure where all women come from but am certain some mother's-in-law come from Hell!

[wendy1946]

This is what you'd have seen in that lower right corner of pia04995 if you took a close look at the tif (lossless) image:

Corrugated things and bell-shaped metallic things do not occur naturally.