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* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
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Posted on 12/27/2010 5:08:40 PM PST by rhema
Until someone can figure out how to eliminate them... beware the Eastbound Train...
The sad thing here is that ELCA Assembly was directly warned by the LORD in a whirlwind and lightning that struck the meeting area and neighboring Lutheran church (ripping the cross off the top of the church). Despite that, the Assembly went ahead and abandoned God and adopted the religion of Sodom anyway. Now the LORD has spewed them out of His mouth.
As an individual I chose to walk...nay, RUN with my family from the ELCA to WELS.
The ELCA has its reward.
No, accepting homosexuality is what has fractured the church.
As groups such as the Lutheran Coalition for Renewal and Lutheran Churches in Mission for Christ become more viable ecclesial bodies than the ELCA itself, the inclination to leave may be more intense.
Once a church has cut its ties to scripture and the Spirit there is nothing left but an empty shell.
since we can claim “bound-conscience” on whatever teaching we prefer, this means that each parish and ultimately each individual has to decide which teaching is normative for them.
We are all "conscience bound" all the time, consciences guided and informed by scripture and the Spirit. When a church starts to go off the rails alarms should be going off all over the place, and when an apostate church leadership refuses to repent then there is little left to do but cut your ties.
It seems so stupid and illogical that they would do this.
If the Bible is the Word of God, then it contains the moral absolutes. What do they not understand about the meaning of moral absolutes. The Bible is very clear about homosexual conduct. To divorce behavior from a moral framework is ridiculous. It creates no reason for religion.
To elevate and revere homosexual behavior is what the pagans did—it degrades the body and all relationships and creates sexual identity confusion in children. This warping of Natural Law Theory is incredibly evil and the work of Satan. Even Cicero recognized the evil of laws against nature.
If you resort to moral relativism, then you reject the moral absolutes and the Bible. You can not be a Christian when you reject the Bible.
Are they just stupid or are they Marxist infiltrators who want to destroy the two pillars of Western Civilization—Christianity and the family.
It is not just the church that is suffering from this fracturing. Our leaving the ELCA for the LCMS has caused disruption in our family and within our closest circle of friends. We did not ask for this and we hung in there as long as we could. I have a hard time feeling sorry for those in the ELCA who are suffering the consequences of the 2009 decisions.
I have wondered the same thing. Were the just ignoring what was happening to the Episcopal Church?
ELCA has been on a slow walk to apostacy for decades. Acceptance that maybe Jesus was just in a coma while in the tomb and recovered three days later were swirling as possibilities from them in the 70’s. Focusing on the Gospel (yes, the Gospel is good!) but not preaching the Law as a means of convicting the sinner for years has lead to weakening the understanding of the laity. Then women were allowed to assume an office that is meant to be held by men - the office of the holy ministry. The defense is that culturally 2000 years ago women were oppressed and not allowed to be ministers, but today we are more enlightened. The laity were not schooled in the truths of the roles of men and women from the Bible, so many bought into this. Now Satan has taken it another step by having the ELCA affirm that which God condemns. Let those who have eyes see! Working from within is pointless because they have been walking away from the Bible for too long.
Actually, a while ago I read an interesting Catholic Online article which was talking about how the issue of contraception was the start of the downfall in the Lutheran Church. I think it was in the 30’s that it happened and it was a fascinating read and made a lot of sense.
The Catholic Church was under tremendous pressure to also give in to popular culture, but they refused. The Lutheran’s eased up on the issue. I have no idea what the name of the article was or when I read it.
Infiltration of the churches by Marxists and atheists and homosexuals have been the reason for the downfall and corruption of the various churches.
Look at the Liberation Theology churches that sprang up in South America and Latin America. The Marxists knew to defeat Christianity, they would have to subvert the church. They did a remarkable job. The Pope calls them demonic....and it is the one our fascist Marxist in Chief attended for 20 years.
A Marxist-Christian is an oxymoron.
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Christ is Born, Glorify Him!
Wonderful choice. Joining a WELS church was the best decision I ever made.
That was indeed the beginning of the slippery slope.
Stage two was the acceptance of divorce and remarriage after divorce; first among the laity, then among the clergy.
Stage three was the acceptance of abortion on demand, first among the laity, then among the clergy, an acceptance aided and abetted by having unrestricted coverage for abortion in the ELCA Board of Pensions Health Care plan.
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We ran from the ELCA to the LCMS.
Selfishness sows the seeds of its own destruction.
Sola Scriptura was turned into Sola “Hip-too”-ra, as was predicted.
In the long run, "I would rather ye be hot or cold than lukewarm..."
I don’t intend this to be a post of disunity, so if you can reply via freepmail, that would be great —> why did you choose WELS over LCMS?
I find this headline frankly unbelievable. Such an obviously extra-Scriptural stance could have had no other outcome when forced upon Bible-believing Lutherans.
Your pings are always interesting. I continue to pray for the church of my youth.
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