[MEG33]

It is posted in Breaking News..not the Religion Forum.

[refreshed]

Just wanted to post in this thread as it seems to be of somewhat historical importance on FR. The Christ of the Bible is not the christ of the LDS. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar, a charlatan, and not willing to publicly admit to the seriously damning (both literally and figuratively) doctrine of the LDS movement. Either that or they are ignorant. Funny thing about us bible believers. We don’t hide embarrassing doctrine until we get converts so involved they have difficulty backing out.

[LouAvul]

JOSEPH SMITH WAS A CON MAN AND A LIAR WHO PERPETUATED A HUGE FRAUD UPON A GULLIBLE AUDIENCE. WHICH FRAUD HE DERIVED BY ACCEPTING A STOLEN MANUSCRIPT WRITTEN BY SOLOMON SPAULDING. PRIOR TO THIS CON, HE MADE HIS LIVING BY PEEPING INTO A HAT TO LOCATE BURIED TREASURE. MORMONS ARE BY FAR THE MOST IDIOTIC GROUP OF PEOPLE IN ANY RELIGION WITH NORTH AMERICAN ORIGINS.

[Cymbaline]

Why is this in News/Activism? I only look at the news/activism forum so as to avoid threads like this one, ALL of which eventually (immediately) turn into bash-fests.

[TheJewishGod]

Adam and Eve lived in Kansas City, Missouri and Native Americans are a lost tribe of Israel? I find these Mormon claims difficult to believe. Mormons have come to my doorstep before and preached to me about their faith — the stack of half a dozen Books of Mormon in my den is proof of that. They’ve always been very polite, and while I disagree with the premises of their religious beliefs, I don’t think you’ll find a nicer group of people anywhere in the world. I think that’s part of their appeal to people — when you have a polite and well-dressed person speaking to you about their religious beliefs, you’re more inclined to put some stock in them.

[Mariner]

What is this doing in Breaking News?

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

It takes all kinds, everybody’s gotta do their own thing...

[americanophile]

Can we all just agree that Islam sucks?

[Brown Deer]

Joseph Smith was killed by a mob while he was being held prisoner in Carthage, Illinois.

[dagogo redux]

I see your Scientology precursor, and raise you some whole cloth.

[Brown Deer]

Here's another prophet. He and most of his wives and children died on April 19, 1993.

[Redcloak]

Just curious, has the author picked out his planet yet? I’m sure that he wouldn’t want to be the god of a lifeless rock. Or worse, perhaps, having nothing but silicon based lifeforms swimming in liquid nitrogen as worshipers. He should pick a good one before they’re all taken.

[Elsie]

Wow!

New Year's Resolution??

Actually posting some DATA instead of your infamous List-o-Links®!

You've come a long way, baby!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

When you use FreeRepublic to proselytize for the mormonic cult, you should expect Christians to stand up and point out the heresies you espouse.

Count me in. Joe Smith was a HORNDOG and a SCAMMER, but he was no Christian Apostle. Your post makes wild claims with no supporting FACTS, EVIDENCE or LOGICAL ARGUMENT. NOTHING an objective reader could look at and say, “Hey, you’ve got a point about that.” Instead, they look and say, “Man! Those cultists never stop on FreeRepublic!”

ampu

[bibletruth]

The Bible makes it perfectly clear that there is not gift of Biblical Apostles of Jesus Christ TODAY:

Revelation 2:2 I know they works, and they toil and patience, and that thou canst not bear evil men, and didst try them that call themselves apostles, and they are not, and didst find them false.

The PRESENT gifts TODAY are primarily Pastor/Teacher and Evangelist (of which I am called as an Evangelist).

Further evident in the books of Acts demonstrates beyond all facts that a true Apostle MUST have been PRESENT at the resurrection of the Lord Jesus:

Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles their witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all

Acts 5:2 and kept back [part] of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

Acts 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were mahy signs and wonders wrought among the people; and they were all with one accord in Soloman's porch.

And further evidence is in the book of Galatians only Christianity is the true Gospel from the Apostle Paul; and any other gospel is a false gospel, which Paul warns correctly us to take heed and avoid:

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

[Zakeet]

Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ who taught:

1. That Jesus and Satan are brothers

2. That God had incestuous sexual relations with His daughter, Mary, impregnating her with Jesus

3. That Christian pastors are "dimwitted hirelings of Satan"

4. Of sacred scriptures based on pagan works such as prayers to Egyptian gods for dead spirits – which were supposedly translated using occult devices such as peep stones

5. That God is a polygamous celestial stud married to our Heavenly Mother, whose name is so sacred we are not to say it out loud

6. Of Kolob and of other worlds named Planet Oblish and Planet Enish-go-on-dosh ruled by a governing power through the medium of Kli-flos-is-es, or Hah-ko-kau-beam

7. Of prominent display of Satanic symbols such as pentagrams, baphomets, earth stones, and saturn stones on his churches' religious buildings and literature

8. Of portraying Satan as the god of this world and having him teach church doctrine in the Mormon temple ceremony

9. Of the wearing a fig leaf apron in temple ceremonies to symbolize Satan’s power and priesthoods

10. Of offering prayers to the devil in the temple ceremony – Oh God, hear the words of my mouth – and of praising him in the sacred rites by chanting Hebrew words whose translation is Marvelous Lucifer

11. That husbands can resurrect their wives from the grave

12. Of having special grips and clasps in order to tell ghosts from angels and the devil

13. Of practicing baptism for the dead

14. Of wearing magic underwear to protect from physical harm – with symbols so sacred that they must be cut out and buried and the garment burned when it wears out

15. That the Ten Lost Tribes and the apostle John will be discovered living in cement houses in a tropical land adjacent to the North Pole separated by a high mountain range

16. That men about six feet tall, dressed like Quakers, will be discovered dwelling on the moon where they live for about 1,000 years

17. That science will prove the earth has knobs on each end

18. That he was commanded by God to retranslate the Bible because the existing translations contained errors – eventually devising an Inspired Revision completed in 1833 – which was rejected by his church who still uses the King James Version

19. That his followers are not saved by grace, but instead are burdened by a complex series of rules and regulations which determine their progression as gods of their own planets and the ultimate size and quality of their harem of goddess wives

20. That he was greater than Jesus

Seriously, do you really believe that a true Apostle of Jesus Christ would proclaim any of the above blasphemies? Really?

[SkyPilot]

Recently, I was traveling through a city and saw a sign that read "Adult Toy Center."

It was the epitome of false advertising. The men who went there were not adults, they were moral adolescents. Those weren't "toys." And it wasn't a "center" of anything, but a pit of travesty.

Joseph Smith was a man who never grew up morally. He was a multiple, serial, hopeless adulterer.

He was also a liar, a swindler, a con man, a murderer, a plagiarist, and thief.....but I should stay on point.

[batter]

First, I want to thank Jim for providing a forum where many of us cut our teeth on politics and gave us a convenient meeting place to discuss conservative principles, debate policy and strategy, and organize our efforts.

For about a decade, I have enjoyed posting here, organizing/attending local FReeps and rallies, and been a donor to FR. I wish I could say I was a more active FReeper over that last year but personal and work-related constraints have limited my time here (including not being able to update the FR Lexicon in 2010...sorry about that).

Unfortunately, a few years ago, when religious issues became a more common topic on FR, I was concerned that it would only lead to a distraction from common conservative principles we all espouse. Thus, I never participated on any of the religious threads. Worse, however, I was worried that it would lead to unnecessary infighting and attacks on very personal issues that would harm conservative efforts and undermine FR's membership. That seems to have happened.

As I've noted on some of the infamous "bug zapper" related threads, this is Jim's site to run as he wishes. You can either abide by the decisions made or simply leave the site. Unfortunately, I now find myself in the latter category. I believe this thread showed very poor handling (by Jim Robinson and moderators, among others) of a subject (personal religious beliefs) which I don't think really should ever have been delved into on FR.

I hope my decision to leave FR will not affect future cooperation on conservative issues (which we all agree on and is a common thread here), as I'm sure we will continue to cross paths at political events. Personally, I look forward to continuing to work with anyone who will further conservatism, especially FReepers and FReepettes!

Finally, for the past several years I've been the caretaker of the FreeRebublic Lexicon (after stumbling into the 'job'). It is available on my profile page at this time. Someone should take over updating it (which is overdue). I have a better formatted text/html copy of the lexicon (much easier to edit and update) but would have to email it to the volunteer.

If Jim and the moderators will allow it, I will check my FReepmail over the next few days and email the formatted lexicon file to anyone requesting a copy (please provide your email address in the message).

Goodbye and good luck,

Batter

[Hoodat]

And at the end of the third quarter, the score is:

Mormons - 453
Baptists - 392
Catholics - 138
Lutherans - 37
Mennonites - 2

[1000 silverlings]

Will any Mormon tell us who Jesus is?