Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

I'm Saved -- What now?
Antinomianism and the New Covenant ^ | 1/3/2011 | Gart O'toole

Posted on 01/03/2011 6:03:42 PM PST by Benchim

After you are saved, why are you still sinning like Paul in Romans 7? Why are you still despicable? Why are you still thinking in the gutter? Because you are living in the human self. Not the "old self". You will never change . But you want to change but you don't know what to do.

Now God has GIVEN you eternal life. All he asks is that you believe in his Son. Is that it? Your parents can not separate themselves as your parents and neither can God. Your parents will come to the penitentiary to visit you for the consequences of your decadence and law breaking but if you have to look in their tear filled eyes and sit on the other side of that glass , you might want to change things just because you loved them.

You are saved. You are a child of God even if you break His heart but I have a suggestion. Why don't you change your life in gratitude to the Father-- Not for salvation but because of it? Why don't you find a community of fellow believers and start doing something good for them? It's OK to support a building or a preacher, not because you have to but because you want to.

(Excerpt) Read more at antinomianism-salvation.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: fruits; gift; grace; salvation; vanity; yopios
People don't understand there is no real change in one's life guaranteed by salvation. It may come or it may not but either way you are saved by God if you believe in His Son.
1 posted on 01/03/2011 6:03:47 PM PST by Benchim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Benchim

Thank you. I needed that reminder.


2 posted on 01/03/2011 6:10:34 PM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Benchim
Suggestion:..
Let prayer Not be the last thing you do... but the First...
God will be as real to you, are are with him..
3 posted on 01/03/2011 6:11:38 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Benchim

Benchim - first of all - Happy BIRTHday! You are now a
MEMBER of the family of Christ - YOU are the reason he was crucified on the cross - and if no one else were here on earth - HE would have died JUST FOR YOU - to pay for your sins.

Psalm 46:10 - “Be STILL and KNOW that I am God.”

You don’t need to hope for it - pray for it or ‘imagine’ it - HE is G-d!.


4 posted on 01/03/2011 6:24:40 PM PST by yorkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Benchim
Why don't you change your life in gratitude to the Father-- Not for salvation but because of it?

Because as Paul says in Romans 7:15 and following...you can't.

So I guess you're not in Christ if you don't.

5 posted on 01/03/2011 6:42:23 PM PST by papertyger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Benchim
People don't understand there is no real change in one's life guaranteed by salvation. It may come or it may not but either way you are saved by God if you believe in His Son.

Nonsense. If there's no real change in your life, what's the difference between salvation and "stone soup?"

6 posted on 01/03/2011 6:48:51 PM PST by papertyger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Benchim

Romans 12:1
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.”

Not that one’s works will ever suffice anything as payment for the redemptive blood of Christ, but a desire to serve stemming from a love for and gratitude to God and Jesus is the prime mover for action.

His blood compels us to serve.


7 posted on 01/03/2011 6:52:07 PM PST by azhenfud (The government is not best which secures life and property-there is a more valuable thing-manhood.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Benchim
Believing in the Father's Son only allows the potential of Salvation, just as the Son's death on the Cross allowed allowed the potential of Salvation. The rest is partly under your control and partly not; and the admission to Heaven if it occurs may be preceded by a lengthy period of cleansing in Purgatory.
8 posted on 01/03/2011 6:53:56 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: papertyger

True - Jesus said we’d know them by the fruits they bear.

We’re “fruit inspectors”....


9 posted on 01/03/2011 6:55:16 PM PST by azhenfud (The government is not best which secures life and property-there is a more valuable thing-manhood.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Benchim
I'm Saved -- What now?

You live with it.

10 posted on 01/03/2011 6:57:01 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: upsdriver

Disagree.

Once married, always married. But your sinfulness will destroy that marriage, make it one-sided. We fail God, we need to repent and seek forgiveness. If we fail to do that, we are not still in love with Jesus, as revealed by our actions, lack of actions. Just like marriage. Yes, Jesus died and resurrected for us - but we need to continue to attempt to lift a finger, to love, serve, honor Him. If not, we are but expecting God to love us and not loving God back. He is a jealous God - He asks that we love him back - not like an adulterous man tells his wife she’s still number one, but like a sinful, weak, repentful husband that tells his wife she’s still the ONLY one, by not just his mouthm, but by his behavior.

You need the screment of reconcilation - and much effort to become in time and with much effort, the saint He created you to become. We are asked to try, not necessarily succeed - and He will give us the graces to keep the faith, the confidence, the effort going.

You aint saved untile you meet Him and He informs you you’re saved. Until then, what you do is keep trying harder, asking forgiveness for the fail, and keep trying harder - to lovem serve, honor Him, know His love is great and confident He loves you incomparably.


11 posted on 01/03/2011 7:19:31 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: steve86

>>Believing in the Father’s Son only allows the potential of Salvation, just as the Son’s death on the Cross allowed allowed the potential of Salvation<<

Potential for salvation? Are you kidding me? You’re saying that Jesus suffering, death, and resurrection was incomplete? What blasphemy!

When asked, “what do I need to do to be saved” the answer was, “believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved-and your family”. It didn’t continue with any ands, ifs or buts.


12 posted on 01/03/2011 7:26:49 PM PST by CynicalBear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: hosepipe

Correction. “Let prayer Not be the ONLY thing you do... but the First...”. Without action, prayer is merely wishful thinking.


13 posted on 01/03/2011 7:38:39 PM PST by willbeeler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Benchim

If I believe in Jesus I can sin all I want and still go to heaven? Now that’s a sweet deal!


14 posted on 01/03/2011 8:11:10 PM PST by thatsmrfoster2u (Refudiate the corrupt bastards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: steve86

“Purgatory” is not scriptual.


15 posted on 01/03/2011 8:41:46 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Benchim

http://vimeo.com/17070414


16 posted on 01/03/2011 9:50:04 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thatsmrfoster2u
" If I believe in Jesus I can sin all I want and still go to heaven? Now that’s a sweet deal! "


Making light of the LORD's work on the Cross and his sacrifice is nothing to be light of , or something to joke about, or a laughing matter...

That's the wrong way of looking at it, but, God's Mercy is such, that he is patient, he is willing that none should parish.
Even if you were of that kind of attitude, God would still be patient with you.
It's not a matter of how many sins anyone commits in front of a HOLY GOD, even just one sin will condemn to hell....
God condemned all our sins , GOD judged all our sins in the body of Jesus Christ.
ALL of us have sinned, all of us were born into sin.....
Once again, it's not a matter of sins or how many, for even one sin from Adam would have sent all men to hell, mankind was born into sin, and separated from GOD.

You need to stop making a joke of the LORD's love, and Grace, it's nothing to joke about, it's not a laughing matter, it was a Grace that cost Jesus Christ his life.

Psalm 130 verse 3-4 ...

3. If you, LORD, kept a record of sins, Lord, who could stand?
4. But with you there is forgiveness, so that we can, with reverence, serve you.
17 posted on 01/03/2011 10:18:29 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Benchim

All you need is BELIEVE!


18 posted on 01/04/2011 3:22:57 AM PST by Biggirl (HAPPY 2011!:)=^..^=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: willbeeler
[ Without action, prayer is merely wishful thinking. ]

Even with action, prayer is wishful thinking..

Whether with or without action prayer is a wishful dialog..
If you want to do it yourself God will let you..
After all, what do you need God for, if you can do it yourself?..

I say that because I don't believe in miracles..
I rely on them..

19 posted on 01/04/2011 8:29:04 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: steve86

Whosoever shall call upon the Lord SHALL be saved - Not ‘potentially’.

Being saved, you will WANT to make changes in your self and life. We can NOT be perfect, but should strive to be Christ-like, to reflect the Son.

Purgatory? Jesus told the thief on the cross “TODAY you will be with me in paradise”. Not “In a couple weeks we’ll review your application”.


20 posted on 01/04/2011 8:38:48 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: steve86
Believing in the Father's Son only allows the potential of Salvation

I write these things to you, who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know you have eternal life. 1 John 5:13

And the greek is present tense ...

21 posted on 01/04/2011 9:02:37 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: steve86

That my friend is “dead”wrong. That is why I bring the Gospel.
You deny the Atonement and I find no such thing as “purgatory”. Where do I read about “purgatory” in the Bible?


22 posted on 01/04/2011 4:33:17 PM PST by Benchim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: thatsmrfoster2u
" If I believe in Jesus I can sin all I want and still go to heaven? Now that’s a sweet deal! "

To those who trust and believe in a " WORKS based " salvation...
Matthew chapter 5 verse :

20 . For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
23 posted on 01/05/2011 3:49:19 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: thatsmrfoster2u

http://vimeo.com/9119158


24 posted on 01/05/2011 4:19:02 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Benchim
Tell them to read Hebrews chapter 10
Those who treat Jesus Christ's blood as common as bulls and goats as something common shall be in danger of God's wrath, those who trample underfoot the LORD Jesus Christ and who has offended the spirit of Grace.
25 posted on 01/05/2011 4:22:57 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson