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Pro-Abortion New York and Nevada Governors Get Catholic Mass
LifeNews.com ^ | 1/4/2011 | Steven Erfelt

Posted on 01/05/2011 7:36:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy

The newly-minted governors of New York and Nevada have received a Catholic Mass in their honor and the events are coming under fire from pro-life Catholics. Andrew Cuomo and Bob Duffy, the new governor and lieutenant governor of New York, celebrated Mass at Albany’s cathedral, where they received a glowing homily from Bishop Howard Hubbard as Sandra Lee, described by the New York Daily News as his “live-in girlfriend,” sat in the front pew, according to the New York Daily News.

“We know they, over the next four years, will be deeply immersed in the work of evangelization by bringing about the transformation of our state and our society, and we assure them of our prayers, of our support and of our best wishes for challenges they will face,” Bishop Hubbard said.

Though Cuomo and Duffy both support legalized abortion, Cuomo received Holy Communion at the Mass, which upsets Thomas Peters, a Catholic Vote official who writes at American Papist, a popular blog.

“I’m not surprised that Bishop Hubbard would do this. This is the same bishop who approved the free distribution of needles to drug abusers,” he said.

“Still, whenever a bishop clouds the Church’s clear teaching on the life and dignity of the unborn, and whenever he gives Communion to a politician of prominence who is clearly violating the precepts of the Church (and God), scandal is caused among the faithful and the Church’s moral witness is harmed,” Peters said. “There simply aren’t “two ways” of living our faith. Failing to mention the egregious disregard for the unborn exhibited by Cuomo and Duffy is the wrong way to express our faith.”

“I’m not surprised by Bishop Hubbard’s actions, but I am deeply disappointed in them,” he said.

Peters says Cuomo’s live-in girlfriend, Sandra Lee, is Catholic as well.

Meanwhile, the Catholic Culture web site is upset by the concelebrated Mass that Bishop Joseph Pepe of Las Vegas and retired Bishop Philip Straling of Reno celebrated with the inauguration of pro-abortion Catholic Governor Brian Sandoval.

During his homily, Bishop Pepe advised Sandoval to maintain “a closeness to the people we serve. We have to listen and we have to listen carefully.”

The web site notes Sandoval says on his own web page that he is “pro-choice,” but a spokesman for the governor said he “takes his faith personally, and it’s important to him.”

Brian Burch, president of Catholic Vote, told LifeNews.com in response: “We are pleased to hear that Governor-Elect Brian Sandoval chose to begin this day by attending Mass.”

“Regrettably, Sandoval also persistently claims the legal right for women to kill their unborn children, a clear violation of the Fifth Commandment, and the constant teaching of the Catholic Church,” he said. “Because of his advocacy for legal abortion, Sandoval is clearly not in communion with the Church.”

Media reports did not make clear if Sandoval presented himself for Communion. The U.S. Bishops have left the decision of whether to withhold communion up to the local ordinary.

About Pep and Straling, Burch said, “We pray and hope that they made clear that those political leaders who persist in opposing the right to life of the unborn should abstain from receiving the sacrament.”

Cardinal Burke recently reaffirmed the Church’s teaching on how public defenders of abortion cause division in the Church: “On the question of a person who publicly and obstinately espouses the right of a woman to choose to abort the infant in her womb receiving Holy Communion – strikes me as something very clear in the 2,000 years of the church’s tradition – she’s always firmly held that a person who is publicly and obstinately in grave sin should not approach to receive Holy Communion and, if he or she does, should be denied Holy Communion.”


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The newly-minted governors of New York and Nevada have received a Catholic Mass in their honor and the events are coming under fire from pro-life Catholics. Andrew Cuomo and Bob Duffy, the new governor and lieutenant governor of New York, celebrated Mass at Albany’s cathedral, where they received a glowing homily from Bishop Howard Hubbard....

....“We know they, over the next four years, will be deeply immersed in the work of evangelization by bringing about the transformation of our state and our society, and we assure them of our prayers, of our support and of our best wishes for challenges they will face,” Bishop Hubbard said. Though Cuomo and Duffy both support legalized abortion, Cuomo received Holy Communion at the Mass, which upsets Thomas Peters, a Catholic Vote official who writes at American Papist, a popular blog....

....Meanwhile, the Catholic Culture web site is upset by the concelebrated Mass that Bishop Joseph Pepe of Las Vegas and retired Bishop Philip Straling of Reno celebrated with the inauguration of pro-abortion Catholic Governor Brian Sandoval....Media reports did not make clear if Sandoval presented himself for Communion. The U.S. Bishops have left the decision of whether to withhold communion up to the local ordinary.

1 posted on 01/05/2011 7:36:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: All; Arthur McGowan
Canon 915 - Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion.
Sadly, Archbishop Chaput has indicated that it is the responsibility of the communicant to stay away from the Communion Rail. This is not correct. Rather, it is the responsibility of the Minister of the Eucharist to deny Holy Communion. This is a huge difference that goes against the Church's teachings regarding canon 915 as well as recent statements from the Vatican stating that the manifest pro-abortion politicians must be denied, and the burden IS upon the Minister to deny, NOT upon the communicant to stay away
. -- from the thread Will Denver Catholic Archbishop finally enforce Canon 915?
"...there's a question about whether this canon'' – the relevant church law – "was ever intended to be used'' to bring politicians to heel. He thinks not. "I stand with the great majority of American bishops and bishops around the world in saying this canon was never intended to be used this way.'' -- from the thread [Archbishop] Wuerl: Why I Won't Deny Pelosi Communion
"An archbishop who says nothing about these sacrilegious Communions is teaching his diocese that being pro-abortion is not sinful. By flouting Canon 915, he is also teaching his diocese that obedience to Canon Law is optional."
-- FReeper Arthur McGowan, September 17, 2009
Related threads:
Columnist Reflects on Kennedy Funeral, Recalls 2004 Letter from Card. Ratzinger to Card. McCarrick
[Archbishop] Wuerl: Why I Won't Deny Pelosi Communion
Will Denver Catholic Archbishop finally enforce Canon 915?
A reflection on canon 915

2 posted on 01/05/2011 7:37:42 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Alex Murphy

Abortion Foes Target Sen. Casey in Pa.
Pennsylvania’s Bob Casey is one of just three anti-abortion Democrats remaining in the Senate after the midterm elections, yet pro-life advocates plan to oppose his re-election in 2012.
Casey’s sin: He voted in favor of President Barack Obama’s healthcare overhaul.
“Pro-lifers in Pennsylvania are terribly disappointed with Sen. Casey’s vote in favor of President Obama’s healthcare reform law,” Michael Ciccocioppo, executive director of the Pennsylvania Pro-Life Federation, told Roll Call.
“We know that Casey’s office was flooded with constituents urging him to vote ‘No.’ In the end, on the biggest vote of his career, he didn’t listen to the voters. Pro-life Pennsylvanians have long memories.”
Ciccocioppo believes the bill would allow taxpayer-funded abortions and deny care to the elderly through “the rationing of medically necessary treatments.”
Helen Gohsler, president of the Scranton chapter of Pennsylvanians for Human Life, dismissed the possibility that the local anti-abortion community could support Casey in 2012, saying: “He betrayed us.”
Pro-life groups might use healthcare and other issues to entice “evangelicals and Catholics they hope will oppose Casey’s re-election bid,” Roll Call reported.
Casey’s office responds that he fought for provisions in the healthcare bill that would block public funding of abortion, worked to insert provisions boosting funding for the adoption tax credit, and opposed an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act that could have permitted taxpayer-funded abortions on military bases.
Reportedly, one-third of Pennsylvania voters who believe abortion should be illegal supported Casey in 2006, when he defeated social conservative Rick Santorum by more than 17 percentage points.
That’s less likely to happen in 2012, Roll Call observes: “Pennsylvania’s anti-abortion leaders say Casey’s ultimate vote to support the overhaul is unforgivable.”


3 posted on 01/05/2011 7:41:00 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t really care about all the Catholic hocus-pocus, but if Sandoval is pro-abortion, then why didn’t the GOP do a better job of finding a decent candidate to run for the position?


4 posted on 01/05/2011 7:42:52 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Another reason the Catholic Church is a JOKE.


5 posted on 01/05/2011 7:44:56 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Alex Murphy
"The newly-minted governors of New York and Nevada have received a Catholic Mass in their honor and the events are coming under fire from pro-life Catholics. Andrew Cuomo and Bob Duffy, the new governor and lieutenant governor of New York, celebrated Mass at Albany’s cathedral, where they received a glowing homily from Bishop Howard Hubbard"

"Though Cuomo and Duffy both support legalized abortion, Cuomo received Holy Communion at the Mass,"

“Bishop Hubbard is the same bishop who approved the free distribution of needles to drug abusers,”

"Cuomo’s live-in girlfriend, Sandra Lee, sat in the front row."

Shame shame shame....Nothing but shame...'Bishop' Hubbard is leading countless souls astray...He will answer for his actions in The Judgement Hall.

6 posted on 01/05/2011 7:45:41 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat. (AKA The Pope's Hat))
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To: Alex Murphy
Catholic bishops acting like Protestants bookmark.
7 posted on 01/05/2011 7:46:14 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: stockpirate

Actually, the Church LEADERSHIP is the joke...


8 posted on 01/05/2011 7:46:39 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: stockpirate
Correction; 'Bishop' Hubbard is a joke. He stands against all that The Church stands for, thus standing against what God stands for. He will be judged accordingly.

Prays for mercy for this sick twisted pathetic excuse for a bishop.

9 posted on 01/05/2011 7:48:11 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat. (AKA The Pope's Hat))
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To: stockpirate
Another reason the Catholic Church is a JOKE.

But taken seriously enough to attack.

10 posted on 01/05/2011 7:54:19 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Celtic Cross

If the church stands against what he does, remove him, otherwise it supports what he is doing.


11 posted on 01/05/2011 8:04:26 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: marshmallow

Seriously, I do not take it seriously.


12 posted on 01/05/2011 8:05:31 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: stockpirate

LOL....you seriously don’t take it seriously??..........ROFL.......


13 posted on 01/05/2011 8:09:12 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: stockpirate

Really? In my opinion, any time Marxists undermine & infiltrate an institution, I take it seriously. You sure you’re a conservative?


14 posted on 01/05/2011 8:15:20 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

“Marxists undermine & infiltrate an institution”

I would question your assumption that they were “infiltrated”


15 posted on 01/05/2011 8:17:03 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: stockpirate

Go ahead & challenge me. If you were informed on Church doctrines, you’d understand how incomparable socialism is w/ the Church. I get the feeling, though, that you’re more interested in bashing the Church rather than knowing the facts.


16 posted on 01/05/2011 8:21:05 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: stockpirate

Not true.


17 posted on 01/05/2011 8:24:11 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat. (AKA The Pope's Hat))
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To: surroundedbyblue

Actually it is you who are misinformed or not informed about socialism within the church.

What is the church’s position on universal health care in the US?

What is the church’s position on illegal immigration in to the US?

What is the church’s position on redistriution of wealth from rich to poor nations?


18 posted on 01/05/2011 8:27:51 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: stockpirate

I’m at work so I do not have time to answer your questions as they should be answered. I will when I get home, though.

In the meantime, you can start here: http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/ccatholic-rprt.pdf


19 posted on 01/05/2011 9:50:51 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

No need, I actually know the answers and as I suspected you don’t yet you accused me of not knowing what I was talking about.

The church wants universal health care for EVERYONE in this country even those who are illegal, paid for by taxpayers.

Open borders so all catholics south of the border can sneek in.

And of course evil rich antions need to redistribute thier misgotten wealth to poorer nations.

Also, they are for cap & tax.


20 posted on 01/05/2011 10:36:21 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: stockpirate

May God remove the gunk and filth from you heart you a-historical bigot.


21 posted on 01/05/2011 11:26:21 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: stockpirate

Show me where in the Catechism that it says what you claim the Church supports. Then I’ll believe you. Until that day forget it.


22 posted on 01/05/2011 11:27:40 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


23 posted on 01/05/2011 11:27:56 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Pope Pius XII

“May God remove the gunk and filth from you heart you a-historical bigot.”

Now that’s funny. may God teach you how to open your heart to the truth, you brain washed idiot. Oh yeah and write in the english language.

Hate not because I speak the truth, hate me because...


24 posted on 01/05/2011 12:06:35 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Go read your own church’s documents and you will know the truth of what I have said.


25 posted on 01/05/2011 12:07:31 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: stockpirate

You didn’t answer my question, so stop avoiding it. Show me where in official Catholic Church teaching it says that Catholics are socialist. It figures that people like you can’t even back up what you say let alone even provide documentation.


26 posted on 01/05/2011 7:55:35 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: stockpirate

Actually you’re making yourself sound stupid, why don’t you go back and actually learn something about Catholicism instead of mouthing off.


27 posted on 01/05/2011 7:58:08 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: stockpirate

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


28 posted on 01/05/2011 9:10:35 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Alex Murphy

That this ¨Bishop¨would make such a mockery of the Mass is unbelievable. Talk of excommunication.... Just, Wow!!!!


29 posted on 01/06/2011 5:43:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: stockpirate

Last night, I thought of responding to your post & answering you regarding your allegations about the Church’s positions on current events. But after I read your subsequent posts, it occurred to me that I would be wasting my time. Your thinking is clouded by hate-filled anti-Catholic bigotry & you seem to have zero interest in anything factual. You just want to be a bomb-thrower against the Church. Period.


30 posted on 01/06/2011 9:40:31 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: Religion Moderator

Actually mod if you check that persons post to me earlier in the thread he called me names.

Also, everyone my daughter and grand daughters a catholic and they attend a catholic high school.


31 posted on 01/06/2011 11:59:57 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: stockpirate
Part of the Religion Forum guidelines is that when one Freeper in a sidebar has been warned, all participants should consider themselves warned.

That is based on the principle that two wrongs do not make a right.

32 posted on 01/06/2011 7:10:52 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

In the future I will advise the mod if someone on the forum calls me names.


33 posted on 01/07/2011 8:20:11 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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