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Pope Benedict XVI calls on parents to use proper Christian names when naming their children
Mirror ^ | January 11, 2010 | Greig Box-Turnbull

Posted on 01/11/2011 2:08:11 PM PST by NYer

POPE Benedict XVI has urged parents to use proper Christian names when naming their children.

The Pope was believed to be speaking out against the trend of copying obscure celebrity baby names.

Several Italian celebrities have fallen foul of religious tradition, most notably Formula One boss Flavio Briatore, whose son is called Falco, meaning Falcon.

Christian names are an “indelible sign from the Holy Spirit” that help protect family life, the Pope said.

Theologian Gianni Gennari said the Pope was “simply asking for seriousness when it comes to baptism”.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: again; babynames; bxvi; names; popebenedict

1 posted on 01/11/2011 2:08:16 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Short succinct and to the point. At times it seems parents are competing to come up with the oddest names for their children. Anyone else recall the family that names their son, ESPN, because Dad was a big sports fan?


2 posted on 01/11/2011 2:10:24 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Wonder what he thinks of names like Moon Unit and Ja’larondashanae?


3 posted on 01/11/2011 2:20:00 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: NYer
use proper Christian names when naming their children

You mean like...Jesus?

4 posted on 01/11/2011 2:24:45 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: NYer

I’m waiting for some avante-garde lefty to name their offspring “baby #1” and “baby #2”. In all likelihood it already happened.


5 posted on 01/11/2011 2:27:36 PM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: NYer

At one time, a Catholic child had to have a saint name.
My Baptismal name is a WHOLE lot longer than my legal name.

Bring those rules back and there is no problem.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 2:31:13 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: NYer
Anyone else recall the family that named their son, ESPN, because Dad was a big sports fan?

ESPN Montana Real. Named for ESPN and Joe Montana...

7 posted on 01/11/2011 2:46:45 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (Everyone has their day. Some days last longer than others. Attr to Winston Churchill)
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To: netmilsmom

The Fearsome Fivesome here are all named with old-fashioned names, in standard spellings. We also tried (emphasizing that word) to make them difficult to make fun of. Of course, the kids themselves defeated that plan. ;)


8 posted on 01/11/2011 3:21:46 PM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: NYer

“Christian names are an “indelible sign from the Holy Spirit” that help protect family life, the Pope said.”

Baloney.


9 posted on 01/11/2011 3:23:19 PM PST by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10

Dito. How does one’s name provide protection? Aren’t there more important things to worry about?


10 posted on 01/11/2011 3:29:14 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: sayuncledave
You CANNOT fashion a name that the kids won't make fun of.

I know. My name is as plain as any name could be - very old fashioned and normal. Didn't make any difference . . . until I threatened to clobber a couple of the other kids.

11 posted on 01/11/2011 3:39:35 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
Heh. Here's a book you need to get for the last word on what the author/editor calls "the free-form nutty name":

He's got them all documented, and there's even a sequel.

12 posted on 01/11/2011 3:41:19 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

I thought Jesus was a Jewish name.....??


13 posted on 01/11/2011 4:01:11 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: NYer

My daughter is Grace Elizabeth. I think God would approve :-)


14 posted on 01/11/2011 4:11:57 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: NYer

The Pope is absolutely right on this and I have noticed it becoming a very frustrating trend. The name of a saint is given in Baptism in order that the baby baptized may imitate that saints virtues and have him/her for a protector.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 4:38:26 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer

The pope is covering it all, lately. Excellent! We named three of our four children after saints, but I, being a new Catholic, thought it fine to name one of our sons after my brother (who we joked would be an agnostic saint someday anyway). Fast forward two decades, and I’m really sorry I did that (long story, but for one, we no longer have any contact with my bro). My husband and I started talking about it (renaming our son, that is:)) coming up with names that fit his persona. My choice was Anthony Francis, and my husband interestingly liked the flip, Francis Anthony. (But it’s a little late for naming.) I now believe one should name their kids after a saint or a name that is a derivative of, and be safe on a number of accounts.


16 posted on 01/11/2011 4:50:39 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: NYer

Actually my dad like name Kelly but my mom like name Ann so they put the name together Kelly Ann LOL!


17 posted on 01/11/2011 4:58:51 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yes! Yes! That has my two favorite non-religious names in all the world: Heidi Yum Yum Gluck and Ophelia Bumps! Oh, thank you, I’d forgotten that gem.


18 posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:33 PM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: sayuncledave

I like Eucalyptus Yoho and Garnish Lurch, myself.


19 posted on 01/11/2011 7:21:26 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’m so glad I wasn’t eating when you mentioned those. I think I know what to name the next couple kids. ;)


20 posted on 01/11/2011 7:35:56 PM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: goodwithagun; kingpins10; mlizzy; sayuncledave; AnAmericanMother; SevenofNine
How does one’s name provide protection? Aren’t there more important things to worry about?

It is scriptural ... yes, discerning what name to give a child should begin with God. Consider this. God Himself gave Adam his name; Adam named Eve and all of the living things; the angel revealed the name of Jesus to both Mary and Joseph. And each of these names had a meaning and a purpose. As the angel told Saint Joseph, "You shall call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins."

So names are not something to take lightly, and the Church acknowledges this. As Paragraph 2165 of the current Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

In Baptism, the Christian receives his name in the Church. Parents, godparents, and the pastor are to see that he be given a Christian name. The patron saint provides a model of charity and the assurance of his prayer.

That final sentence is very important. For Catholics, naming our children after saints isn't an arbitrary rule but an acknowledgment that we truly believe in the communion of saints. Thus, when we choose a Christian name for our child, we should have a particular saint in mind. Is Catherine named after Saint Catherine of Siena or Saint Catherine of Alexandria? Is Francis named after Saint Francis of Assisi or St. Francis Xavier?

As Christians, we never walk through this life alone, but in communion with all the saints. And that reality should be reflected in the names we give to our children.

21 posted on 01/12/2011 5:15:34 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer
Orthodoxy rocks!
22 posted on 01/12/2011 7:21:05 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: NYer

Well, no angels whispered my son’s name in my ear so I chose it myself. Paragraph 2165 is not from the Bible, it is from a work written by man. I’m not as well read in the Bible as some, but I don’t remember a St. Catherine either. Seriously, there are many more issues that the pope could worry about right now.


23 posted on 01/12/2011 9:05:50 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
You mean like...Jesus?

That's quite popular in cultures of Spanish origin.

24 posted on 01/12/2011 9:07:53 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: goodwithagun
Seriously, there are many more issues that the pope could worry about right now

By all means: write to him and tell him about them. I'm sure he'll give your advice at least as much careful consideration as you have given his ...

25 posted on 01/12/2011 9:13:03 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
My favorite Ohioan:

Kenesaw Mountain Landis

26 posted on 01/12/2011 9:16:11 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Apple is pretty lame.

Radish would be better.


27 posted on 01/12/2011 9:20:25 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: NYer

Every time I find out I’m pregnant again I start browsing through the Saint list websites. We give our boys three names so I can use all the inspiration I can get. :0)


28 posted on 01/12/2011 10:41:57 AM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: NYer

Anne
Marie
Louise (Louis for a girl(
John David
Patrick


29 posted on 01/12/2011 3:35:47 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodwithagun; NYer
Seriously, there are many more issues that the pope could worry about right now.
This issue of naming is only important IF you know that it is important, and the pope knows it is. Like I mentioned earlier on this thread, I felt it was no big deal to name our second son after my brother (and not a saint) and now not only do I wish I could take it back, but I'm thinking of changing my own name as well. It could be considered a derivative of Joan, but I wasn't in any way named for St. Joan of Arc. In fact, my mother pretty much hated the Catholic faith. So who knows; I might be Magdalene Margaret O'Toole or something in that vein ... from 60 on ... :) I'm actually serious about this. I don't feel comfy in my saintless name.
30 posted on 01/12/2011 4:21:27 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: NYer

“God Himself gave Adam his name”

And therein lies the rub. We are not God.


31 posted on 01/12/2011 4:40:56 PM PST by kingpins10
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To: NYer

you can start with FULTON Sheen....why on earth did he legally change his birth name to his mother’s maiden name?


32 posted on 01/21/2011 7:52:31 PM PST by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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To: NYer
Whatcha mean, Poppie, what be rong wif LaTrina!
33 posted on 01/21/2011 7:57:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: NYer

Would Old Testament names like Noah or Moses count as saintly names?


34 posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:35 AM PST by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Absolutely!


35 posted on 01/22/2011 12:40:54 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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