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To: Bodleian_Girl; Alex Murphy
A person who abstains will never become the drunk that abuses his kids.

If a person has inner demons that gives him or her the propensity to abuse his children, he will do it whether he is sober or drunk.

8 posted on 01/12/2011 9:07:18 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
If a person has inner demons that gives him or her the propensity to abuse his children, he will do it whether he is sober or drunk.

Alcohol lowers your inhibitions, so if you have a pre-disposal to be violent, your ability to NOT act on your violent tendencies is lowered. You need not look very far to see that abused children report that their beatings usually took place when Daddy had been drinking.

People CHANGE when they are drunk. People will freely do things when they are drunk - that they would never seriosly consider doing when they are sober.

17 posted on 01/12/2011 9:14:23 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: mnehring

Habakkuk 2:15  ¶Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness!

16  Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD’S right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.


31 posted on 01/12/2011 9:38:57 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl (What did Sheriff Dupnik know about Loughner & when did he know it? http://bit.ly/eQ5ehk)
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To: mnehring

No, I think that’s wrong.

My younger brother has problems with alcohol. Recently, due to a violent episoded with his first wife, that I witnessed and had to interfere in, I tried to get him committed. Frankly, I thought he was bi-polar or something. He was insane.

Turns out, after a 10 minute psychological evaluation, it was determined that he was merely alcoholic, and so the State of Alabama had no resources to treat him. His eldest daughter asked the pschologist, “What happens after he kills someone?”. He said, “There’ll be plenty of resources available then”.

Here’s the thing. His first wife told me that he had never beaten her. That he only cheated on her under while under the influence. I can believe the first assertion, but I don’t know about the second.

But anyway, by the time he got married again, he seems to have been willing to beat his wife. Of course, it probably didn’t help that she also had a problem with the sauce, and actually was diagnosed as bi-polar.

But anyway, as his first wife told his two eldest daughters once, “Your father didn’t just get up one morning and decide to be a full raging drunk”.

The behavior seems progressive, in my observation.


36 posted on 01/12/2011 9:43:06 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: mnehring
If a person has inner demons that gives him or her the propensity to abuse his children, he will do it whether he is sober or drunk.

Anger, physical abuse of others as well as drunkenness are sins of the flesh. No demons are required - see Galatians 5:19-21

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
60 posted on 01/12/2011 10:43:04 AM PST by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League Champions!)
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