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Would You Vote for Someone Just Because They're Mormon?
Lds Living ^ | Jan. 10, 2011 | Ashley Evanson

Posted on 01/12/2011 11:32:22 AM PST by Colofornian

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Well, the answer was already established in the primaries last election!

Romney got about 94% of the vote in Utah.

Same with other states that had high % of Lds (AZ, Wyoming, etc.)

It's called "identity politics."

Only when people do it in a reverse way, they want to call it "bigotry."

1 posted on 01/12/2011 11:32:26 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

I would personally not vote for someone who was Mormon, Scientologist, Muslim, Moonie, Krishna, etc.

It’s not bigotry, it’s my right as an American to vote my conscience.


2 posted on 01/12/2011 11:35:06 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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To: Colofornian

I wouldn’t vote AGAINST someone because they are Mormon.


3 posted on 01/12/2011 11:35:24 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: Colofornian

2 Mormons??!!!! Some freeper heads will surely implode.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 11:36:38 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Colofornian

No, but I might vote against someone just because they were Muslim.

Islam seems to be a political totalitarianism founded by a terrorist genocidal pedophile, dressed up as a religion.

I can’t abide that in an American leader.


5 posted on 01/12/2011 11:37:06 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: AdaGray
I wouldn’t vote AGAINST someone because they are Mormon.

Exactly.

6 posted on 01/12/2011 11:37:10 AM PST by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: Colofornian

Ha!
Wrong question!

See if you get an honest answer to:
“Would you NOT vote for someone, simply because they’re Mormon?”


7 posted on 01/12/2011 11:38:09 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: Colofornian
Would You Vote for against Someone Just Because They’re Mormon?

There, that's better.

8 posted on 01/12/2011 11:39:26 AM PST by SouthDixie (The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly and lie about your age.)
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To: Colofornian

I’ll vote against Romney because he’s a socialist, brown-nosing, plastic chameleon / RINO cross breed.


9 posted on 01/12/2011 11:39:39 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: Colofornian

Would the proposed LDS member encourage business growth, keep our country safe, limit political correctness, discourage abortion and reduce the size of government? I wouldn’t care if he worshiped Zeus and had a shrine to the late Don Ho, anything is better than the slew of Rinos and libs we have running the show right now.


10 posted on 01/12/2011 11:39:42 AM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: Colofornian
No, but I wouldn't vote against them because of it either.

I would never, however, vote for Mitt "RomneyCare" Romney.

Under any circumstances.

Ever.

11 posted on 01/12/2011 11:40:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: AdaGray

Same here. Just not obsessed with it.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 11:41:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: G Larry
“Would you NOT vote for someone, simply because they’re Mormon?”

No, I would NOT vote for someone, simpley because they're a Mormon.
13 posted on 01/12/2011 11:41:25 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Colofornian
The writer, probably LDS herself, takes voting for the Mormon as axiomatic for Mormons:

Who will the Mormons vote for?! If their only choice was Romney, I bet a fair number of Mormons wouldn’t really give the other candidates a second thought.

But of course we have freeper Mormons who do not agree. Perhap they're int he 6%?

14 posted on 01/12/2011 11:41:57 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian

Sure I’d vote for a mormon. I’d vote for Mitt Romney, for example.

...

for javelin catcher


15 posted on 01/12/2011 11:42:07 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

Jon Huntsman maybe, Romney, not so much. Romney has proven he’s alying rino.


16 posted on 01/12/2011 11:44:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian
If their only choice was Romney, I bet a fair number of Mormons wouldn’t really give the other candidates a second thought.

Well, that's the truth, lds trumps everything else.

17 posted on 01/12/2011 11:45:18 AM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Colofornian
Well they'd really be in a pickle if Harry Reid was the Dim candidate...and Romney or Huntsman was the Pub candidate!!!

LOL!!!

18 posted on 01/12/2011 11:45:35 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: porter_knorr

Hell I’d take a satanist over Obama in 2012. At least he’d be honest about his faith and quite frankly things couldn’t get much worse.


19 posted on 01/12/2011 11:46:01 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: Colofornian
"Would You Vote for Someone Just Because They’re Mormon? "

You ask that like being part of a sick twisted cult that distorts the true gospel is a plus.

20 posted on 01/12/2011 11:46:41 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Colofornian

We already know the answer to this.

Conservatism under the bus...


21 posted on 01/12/2011 11:47:18 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: All
How do we know "identity politics" was at work in Utah when Romney ran?

Salt Lake Tribune, Feb. 7, 2008: Exit poll data from Tuesday's primary elections showed Utah Republican voters cared more about presidential candidates' personal qualities than their positions on issues, the opposite of the national trend in Super Tuesday voting. Source headline: "Romney's exit disappoints strong Utah following"

"Personal qualities"...Mormon talk for "he's a fellow Mormon."

To paraphrase what the Trib was saying on behalf of Utah Republican voters last election cycle: "Issues? We'll buck the national trend. We'll stick with & pick a fellow Mormon because we hold a 'personal quality' in common."

Now, do I think Lds Mormon voters were "bigoted" to select a fellow Mormon because he was Mormon? (No!)

We live in a Free Republic. Most voters already factor faith and other-worldly commitments into their voting. It certainly isn't the "whole" enchilada -- for usually most voters. But is it "OK" to be one consideration among many? (Yes)

I think Lds Utah voters were within whatever considerations you want to outline for voting for POTUS candidates.

However, if Lds voters voted for Romney either only or primarily because he was Lds -- I just don't think they should then turn around and point fingers at other voters who might take Romney's or Huntsman's other-worldly commitments to become a god into consideration.

(They can't have one standard for their religious brethren -- and operate on another standard for non-religious voters)

22 posted on 01/12/2011 11:48:16 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Uncle Miltie

And those were his good points...


23 posted on 01/12/2011 11:48:40 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Colofornian

Many Mormons voted for the repugnant Harry Reid, so yes. Bob


24 posted on 01/12/2011 11:50:39 AM PST by alstewartfan ("Only in the darkest places will she feel at home tonight." from Mixed Blessing by Al Stewart)
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To: Colofornian

No.
Nor would being Mormon automatically prejudice me against them, unlike, say, being a Muslim.


25 posted on 01/12/2011 11:50:59 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Colofornian

Are most Mormons pro-life? Heavily so?

Do Mormons tend to be pro-life in higher percentage than Catholics? It seems Catholics are kind of evenly split on the issue.

I’m curious, but don’t know. Thanks.


26 posted on 01/12/2011 11:52:03 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: Colofornian
Romney got about 94% of the vote in Utah. Same with other states that had high % of Lds (AZ, Wyoming, etc.) Wikipedia says McCain won Arizona, with 47% of the vote to Romney's 35%. They also cite McCain as getting 70% of Idaho vs. Romney's 0% since Romney had withdrawn by then, with Ron Paul garnering the majority of non-McCain voters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Republican_presidential_primaries Am I missing or misunderstanding something?
27 posted on 01/12/2011 11:53:07 AM PST by PoolQue ("The best government is that which governs least.")
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To: Colofornian
I wouldn't vote FOR someone if they were Mormon. I also wouldn't vote AGAINST them if they were Mormon.

I will vote FOR someone based on their platform, agenda and principles. I will also vote AGAINST them based on their platform, agenda and principles.

I will vote FOR the most conservative candidate on the ballot; be it primary or general election.

28 posted on 01/12/2011 11:53:15 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: DannyTN
I don't see any evidence that Romney made any attempt to impose Mormon theology anywhere he has been an elected official or a CEO.

So his religion is his business in my opinion.

There are several good secular reasons why he should not be president.

29 posted on 01/12/2011 11:54:16 AM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: Colofornian
"Would you vote AGAINST someone just because they're mormon?"

No.

30 posted on 01/12/2011 11:55:49 AM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: PoolQue
Am I missing or misunderstanding something?

Other than carriage returns and line feeds?

31 posted on 01/12/2011 11:58:22 AM PST by PoolQue ("The best government is that which governs least.")
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To: 5thGenTexan
Same here.

But what if its Romney versus Obama? RINO vs. Marxist?

32 posted on 01/12/2011 11:58:26 AM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: NorthStarStateConservative
Would the proposed LDS member encourage business growth, keep our country safe, limit political correctness, discourage abortion and reduce the size of government? I wouldn’t care if he worshiped Zeus...

So, if Hillary Clinton underwent a tea party conversion...
...encouraged business growth (which she would say she already has)...
...vied to keep our country safe (which she would say she already has)...
...discouraged abortion (which she would say she already has -- frankly pro-aborts have talked about "reducing" abortions)
...and then announced her "tea party conversion" will reduce the size of govt...
...and then she adds this P.S. "Oh, BTW, what led to my tea party conversion was a religious conversion...I believe I will become a god when I die..."
...you wouold really think that 98-100% of voters would ignore her "P.S." comment about becoming a god?

What's really strange is to see so many people so fearful of the liberal tactic of being labeled a "bigot" -- that they'll do cartwheels to not have to deal with the temple Mormon's claim that he will become a god who will be worshiped and prayed to!!!

If any other candidate announced their "I will become a god when I die" belief, that would relevant to how we weigh that candidate for POTUS. But because they have "Mormon" next to their title, they get a free pass on that point.

33 posted on 01/12/2011 11:58:33 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

That is not necessarly the sole deciding factor, but one that must be considered.

Both Huntsman and mitt are rinos - THAT is their track record, and that record alone is worthy of a NO vote. Their religion plays a factor in questioning their reasoning processes - accepting an piece of fiction - the bom - as ‘scripture’; accepting a demonstrated bogus translation - the boa - as scripture; accepting things as ‘truth’ solely on the basis of a feeling or ‘burning’. Are those actions rational and condusive to an individual in office?

Hindu’s, moslems, hari’s, would also receive the same scrutiney on the basis of the world view their religion generates as well.


34 posted on 01/12/2011 12:00:19 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Colofornian

Did Harry Reid carry the Mormon vote in Nevada?


35 posted on 01/12/2011 12:01:17 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: MHGinTN

Therefore, Romney’s off the table. BTW, Romney is already a God in his own mind, so when he dies, nothing will change.


36 posted on 01/12/2011 12:05:16 PM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: All

Hey, they voted and elected one for President.

Mormon, I thought you said moron?

Never mind!!!


37 posted on 01/12/2011 12:06:05 PM PST by sleddogs
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To: forgotten man

Yes


38 posted on 01/12/2011 12:06:09 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Celtic Cross
I will vote for the most conservative of the two.

So, I will support the most conservative in the primary. I will fight the good fight until the convention. If Romney wins the primary, I will fall into line for that general election.

Then I will begin work to come up with a more conservative choice the next primary.

39 posted on 01/12/2011 12:06:39 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

“Would the proposed LDS member encourage business growth, keep our country safe, limit political correctness, discourage abortion and reduce the size of government? I wouldn’t care if he worshiped Zeus and had a shrine to the late Don Ho, anything is better than the slew of Rinos and libs we have running the show right now.”

Well said. I agree 100%. /Conservative Christian (nominally Catholic) Texan who has serious issues with Mormon doctrine...


40 posted on 01/12/2011 12:07:23 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: Notary Sojac; DannyTN; All
I don't see any evidence that Romney made any attempt to impose Mormon theology anywhere he has been an elected official or a CEO. So his religion is his business in my opinion. There are several good secular reasons why he should not be president. [NS]

For the religious voter, what are some additional considerations?

(1) It would mean that it would give the Mormon church more unprecedented PR proselytizing power – even if Romney did zero to promote that. [And that would be hard to believe -- that he would not do ANYTHING -- given that the Mormon church itself would find ways he could "help"]

(2) I can’t believe we actually have a “true-believing Mormon” – one who believes that the 80%-90% of his voting base (depending upon the state) are “apostates.” Could you imagine a Muslim Republican candidate, keeping coy about his beliefs that Christians are “infidels,” and then blaming Christians if they chose to include that as one consideration among many?

(3) Romney has NO candidate viability. He’s dead in the water. The media will be merciless pitting Obama as one “subject to racism” vs. Romney, who as a 30 yo attended a church that was still openly racist at that time [denied blacks priesthood holder status].

(4) (Not sure if this applies beyond POTUS). The Bible shows that true successful leadership in public office is done by those who fear the true Lord & who do not worship false gods/idols. The OT is replete w/ such examples. The Israelites had secular kings, not "pastors in chief." But that didn't mean that these kings' ministrations were any less a "ministry." Romans 13 makes it clear that public office is also a "ministry." Those who contend against this are openly militating against this Scripture. It doesn't mean that public officeholders administrate in a parochial way; it just means that public office is a "ministry of service" just like the soup kitchen down the street. History (biblical & otherwise) shows that the more pagan or counterfeit god that a leader holds, the more trouble that leader's "exhaust" settles on the people-at-large. Kings & presidents need all the grace, mercy, & guidance possible, since God gets more credit for preserving & directing leaders than we care to give Him credit for. Therefore, one who worships a false god & has no true relationship w/the living God is stifling access to God's resources; & a nation may suffer for that.

41 posted on 01/12/2011 12:09:08 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: 5thGenTexan
Would you vote for a Conservative Muslim?

Now there's a question!!

42 posted on 01/12/2011 12:09:22 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Islam seems to be a political totalitarianism founded by a terrorist genocidal pedophile, dressed up as a religion.

NOW someone will chime in about America's FIRST 911 terrorist killings...

43 posted on 01/12/2011 12:11:35 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

I would not vote for someone just because their a moron. Besides who would admit they are actually a moron?

I also don’t vote for members of a cult.

Hope that clears everything up.


44 posted on 01/12/2011 12:13:01 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Notary Sojac
don't see any evidence that Romney made any attempt to impose Mormon theology anywhere he has been an elected official or a CEO.

True.

So that should prove he's not a very good MORMON.

45 posted on 01/12/2011 12:13:59 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

BTW- I also do not vote for two-faced lying scumbag socialists who who support Romneycare.


46 posted on 01/12/2011 12:15:10 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Osage Orange

So, a true practicing Muslim would not pass muster with the generally accepted definition of a Conservative, due to their views on personal freedom.


47 posted on 01/12/2011 12:15:28 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Colofornian
 
...I believe I will become a god when I die..."
 
 
You have GOT to be kidding; right???
 



THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, as also plurality of wives. HC 5: 501–507. Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
 
1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way that leads to eternal lives; 26–27, Law given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation made to prophets and saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
  1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many awives and bconcubines
  2 Behold, and lo, I am the Lord thy God, and will answer thee as touching this matter.
  3 Therefore, aprepare thy heart to receive and bobey the instructions which I am about to give unto you; for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same.
  4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting acovenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye bdamned; for no one can creject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.
  5 For all who will have a ablessing at my hands shall abide the blaw which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions thereof, as were instituted from before the foundation of the world.
  6 And as pertaining to the new and aeverlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my bglory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord God.
  7 And verily I say unto you, that the aconditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, boaths, cvows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and dsealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is eanointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, and that too most holy, by frevelation and commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this gpower (and I have appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this hpower in the last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the ikeys of this priesthood are conferred), are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.
  8 Behold, mine house is a house of aorder, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion.
  9 Will I aaccept of an offering, saith the Lord, that is not made in my name?
  10 Or will I receive at your hands that which I have not aappointed?
  11 And will I appoint unto you, saith the Lord, except it be by law, even as I and my Father aordained unto you, before the world was?
  12 I am the Lord thy God; and I give unto you this commandment—that no man shall acome unto the Father but by me or by my word, which is my law, saith the Lord.
  13 And everything that is in the world, whether it be ordained of men, by athrones, or principalities, or powers, or things of name, whatsoever they may be, that are not by me or by my word, saith the Lord, shall be thrown down, and shall bnot remain after men are dead, neither in nor after the resurrection, saith the Lord your God.
  14 For whatsoever things remain are by me; and whatsoever things are not by me shall be shaken and destroyed.
  15 Therefore, if a aman marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world.
  16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.
  17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.
  18 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.
  19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.
  20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.
  21 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.
  22 For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.
  23 But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.
  24 This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.
  25 aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.
  26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the aHoly Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they bcommit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be cdelivered unto the buffetings of dSatan unto the day of eredemption, saith the Lord God.
  27 The ablasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall bnot be cforgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit dmurder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be edamned, saith the Lord.
  28 I am the Lord thy God, and will give unto thee the alaw of my Holy Priesthood, as was ordained by me and my Father before the world was.
  29 aAbraham received all things, whatsoever he received, by revelation and commandment, by my word, saith the Lord, and hath entered into his exaltation and sitteth upon his throne.
  30 aAbraham received promises concerning his seed, and of the fruit of his loins—from whose bloins ye are, namely, my servant Joseph—which were to continue so long as they were in the world; and as touching Abraham and his seed, out of the world they should continue; both in the world and out of the world should they continue as innumerable as the cstars; or, if ye were to count the sand upon the seashore ye could not number them.
  31 This promise is yours also, because ye are of aAbraham, and the promise was made unto Abraham; and by this law is the continuation of the works of my Father, wherein he glorifieth himself.
  32 Go ye, therefore, and do the aworks of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.
  33 But if ye enter not into my law ye cannot receive the promise of my Father, which he made unto Abraham.
  34 God acommanded Abraham, and Sarah gave bHagar to Abraham to wife. And why did she do it? Because this was the law; and from Hagar sprang many people. This, therefore, was fulfilling, among other things, the promises.
  35 Was Abraham, therefore, under condemnation? Verily I say unto you, Nay; for I, the Lord, acommanded it.
  36 Abraham was acommanded to offer his son Isaac; nevertheless, it was written: Thou shalt not bkill. Abraham, however, did not refuse, and it was accounted unto him for crighteousness.
  37 Abraham received aconcubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and bJacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their cexaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.
  38 David also received amany wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.
  39 aDavid’s wives and concubines were bgiven unto him of me, by the hand of Nathan, my servant, and others of the prophets who had the ckeys of this power; and in none of these things did he dsin against me save in the case of eUriah and his wife; and, therefore he hath ffallen from his exaltation, and received his portion; and he shall not inherit them out of the world, for I ggave them unto another, saith the Lord.
  40 I am the Lord thy God, and I gave unto thee, my servant Joseph, an aappointment, and restore all things. Ask what ye will, and it shall be given unto you according to my word.
  41 And as ye have asked concerning adultery, verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man areceiveth a wife in the new and everlasting covenant, and if she be with another man, and I have not appointed unto her by the holy banointing, she hath committed cadultery and shall be destroyed.
  42 If she be not in the new and everlasting covenant, and she be with another man, she has acommitted adultery.
  43 And if her husband be with another woman, and he was under a avow, he hath broken his vow and hath committed adultery.
  44 And if she hath not committed adultery, but is innocent and hath not broken her vow, and she knoweth it, and I reveal it unto you, my servant Joseph, then shall you have power, by the power of my Holy Priesthood, to take her and agive her unto him that hath not committed badultery but hath been cfaithful; for he shall be made ruler over many.
  45 For I have conferred upon you the akeys and power of the priesthood, wherein I brestore all things, and make known unto you all things in due time.
  46 And verily, verily, I say unto you, that whatsoever you aseal on earth shall be sealed in heaven; and whatsoever you bbind on earth, in my name and by my word, saith the Lord, it shall be eternally bound in the heavens; and whosesoever sins you cremit on earth shall be remitted eternally in the heavens; and whosesoever sins you retain on earth shall be retained in heaven.
  47 And again, verily I say, whomsoever you bless I will bless, and whomsoever you curse I will acurse, saith the Lord; for I, the Lord, am thy God.
  48 And again, verily I say unto you, my servant Joseph, that whatsoever you give on earth, and to whomsoever you agive any one on earth, by my word and according to my law, it shall be visited with blessings and not cursings, and with my power, saith the Lord, and shall be without condemnation on earth and in heaven.
  49 For I am the Lord thy God, and will be awith thee even unto the bend of the world, and through all eternity; for verily I cseal upon you your dexaltation, and prepare a throne for you in the kingdom of my Father, with Abraham your efather.
  50 Behold, I have seen your asacrifices, and will forgive all your sins; I have seen your bsacrifices in obedience to that which I have told you. Go, therefore, and I make a way for your escape, as I caccepted the offering of Abraham of his son Isaac.
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
  57 And again, I say, let not my servant Joseph put his property out of his hands, lest an enemy come and destroy him; for aSatan bseeketh to destroy; for I am the Lord thy God, and he is my servant; and behold, and lo, I am with him, as I was with Abraham, thy father, even unto his cexaltation and glory.
  58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.
  59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.
  60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.
  61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.
  62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.
  63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.
  64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.
  65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.
  66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.

48 posted on 01/12/2011 12:16:20 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla
That is not necessarly the sole deciding factor, but one that must be considered.

I agree. Voter discernment includes MANY factors: namely, voting record, present position statements & rampant inconsistency of past position statements, social issues' stances, character, viability, scandal-free past, etc.

What I'm addressing is the propensity to automatically exclude other-worldly commitments by a minority of FREEPERS...because a 2006 Rasmussen poll already shows the majority of Republican voters do take that into consideration.

Both Huntsman and mitt are rinos - THAT is their track record, and that record alone is worthy of a NO vote. Their religion plays a factor in questioning their reasoning processes - accepting an piece of fiction - the bom - as ‘scripture’; accepting a demonstrated bogus translation - the boa - as scripture; accepting things as ‘truth’ solely on the basis of a feeling or ‘burning’. Are those actions rational and condusive to an individual in office? Hindu’s, moslems, hari’s, would also receive the same scrutiney on the basis of the world view their religion generates as well.

Agree heartily!

49 posted on 01/12/2011 12:17:50 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: SouthDixie; AdaGray

Would You Vote for against Someone Just Because They’re Female ...

Lots of mormons would...


50 posted on 01/12/2011 12:17:50 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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