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1 posted on 01/15/2011 8:29:08 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

Do you recommend the 1830 version of the BOM or the 1962 version, after the changes?

Do you recommend the original 1835 Book of Commandments or today’s version of the Doctrine & Covenants, after the original Section 101 was taken out and Section 132 put in?

Could you provide the original Greek word which was translated into the English word ‘Telestial’, and provide the Webster’s definition for the word?


2 posted on 01/15/2011 8:38:38 PM PST by lurk
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To: Paragon Defender

ping


3 posted on 01/15/2011 8:43:07 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Paragon Defender

I get so sick of you mindless cultists and your incessant garbage. Joseph Smith was a con man and a liar. The book of mormon was nothing but a poorly written novel stolen from Solomon Spaulding.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 8:45:27 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: Paragon Defender
Too bad FLDS/LDS "Prophets" Joseph Smith and Brigham Young taught that Christ was sinning polygamist who was not born of a Virgin, and even your recent "Prophet" Hinkley stated that you do not believe in the traditional Christ of the bible.

And for the benefit of other readers here, on 26 Dec 2010, here on FreeRepublic, PARAGON DEFENDER, POSTER OF THIS THREAD, CALLED BIBILICAL CHRISTIANITY A CULT !!

7 posted on 01/15/2011 9:06:47 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: Paragon Defender
Posted by an actual Mormon


9 posted on 01/15/2011 9:19:26 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Paragon Defender

Which Jesus? The Mormon version, or the Biblical Version? The spiritual offspring, created being Jesus, or the eternal Alpha and Omega Jesus that God’s Word describes?


10 posted on 01/15/2011 9:48:41 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Paragon Defender

What happens when the Bible says something that contradicts something else written in one of the other “scriptures”? Is there some order of authority?


11 posted on 01/15/2011 10:18:25 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Paragon Defender

A. “A Charlie Brown Christmas”
B. Book of mormon

Which work presents the gospel of Jesus Christ?


12 posted on 01/15/2011 10:28:19 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Paragon Defender
Scriptures teach that we are children of our Heavenly Father

Well, I sure didn't have to read far to find a fatal flaw. No, make that a lie.

The CHRISTIAN scriptures teach that we must become ADOPTED children of God. Your false "scriptures" sure sound all pretty and nice. No wonder so many people get sucked into believing them. It's like the child molester with a puppy and candy - how could something good be so deadly wrong?

28 posted on 01/16/2011 12:44:17 PM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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From the article: The main purpose of the scriptures is to testify of Christ, helping us come unto Him and receive eternal life (see John 5:39).

ALL: Please don't drink the koolaid of Mormonism's definition of "eternal life." It departs from how Jesus clearly defined it in John 17:3: "And this is eternal life, that you know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom He has sent."

We know Jesus NOW. It's a relationship NOW! IOW, eternal life begins this side of heaven & continues there!

The Mormon definition of "eternal life" is that...
(a) It's ALWAYS future.
(b) It's reserved for married temple Mormons in good standing with the Church!
(c) It equals becoming a god of your own planet/star!

Don't just take my word for it...do what PD says...look at these Mormon leaders' & Mormon church quotations to confirm it!

Eternal life is a term which always means ‘exaltation,’ when used in the Scriptures (John 3:15; Romans 6:23; 1 John 1:2; 2 Nephi 2:28; D&C 5:22; 18:8; 131:5; 138:51; Moses 1:39).” (David R. Ridges, Mormon Beliefs and Doctrines Made Easier, p. 88)

Sub-title: “WHAT IS EXALTATION? Exaltation is eternal life, the kind of life that God lives.” (Older 1970s version, p. 289)

”Exaltation is a synonym for eternal life. Exaltation comes only to those who inherit the highest degree within the celestial kingdom…it consists in the continuation of the family unit throughout eternity; it is the type of life that is lived by our Heavenly Father.” (Daniel H. Ludlow, A Companion to Your Study of the Doctrines and Covenants, 2:85)

Eternal life is living with Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ in the celestial kingdom. This blessing—which is also called exaltation—comes only to those who keep the commandments and make the necessary covenants.” (Preparing for Exaltation Teacher’s Manual, 1998, p. 4)

Exaltation is eternal life, the kind of life God lives. He lives in great glory. He is perfect. He possesses all knowledge, and all wisdom. He is the Father of spirit children. He is a creator. We can become like our Heavenly Father. This is exaltation.” (Gospel Principles, 1997, p. 302)

“Eternal life…In fact…means exaltation. He who receives the greatest portion of eternal life becomes a God.” (Milton R. Hunter, an LDS Seventy, The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 11)

Exaltation means GODHOOD, creatorship. ‘As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p. 53)

“Exaltation is the greatest of all the gifts and attainments possible. It is available only in the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom and is reserved for members of the Church of the Firstborn. This exalted status, called eternal life, is available to be received by a man and a wife. It means not only living in God’s presence, but receiving power to do as God does, including the power to bear children after the resurrection.” (Encylopedia of Mormonism, 2:479)

“…resurrection alone does not qualify us for eternal life in the presence of God…we need His grace to purify and perfect us ‘after all we can do’ (2 Nephi 25:23).” (Truth to the Faith: A Gospel Reference, Intellectual Reserve, 2004, p. 77) <>P>Each of us has been sent to earth by our Heavenly Father to merit eternal life (Lds apostle Robert D. Hales, “Personal Revelation: The Teachings and Examples of the Prophets,” Ensign (Conference Edition), Nov. 1985, p. 20)

”Immortality is to live forever as a resurrected being. Through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, everyone will receive this gift. Eternal life, or exaltation, is to inherit a place in the highest degree of the celestial kingdom, where we will live in God’s presence and continue as families.” (same source, p. 52)

“…immortality is to live forever in the resurrected state, and by the grace of God all men will gain this unending continuance of life. But ONLY THOSE who obey the fullness of the gospel law will inherit eternal life. (D&C 29:43-44)…it is the kind, status, type, and quality of life that God himself enjoys. Thus those who gain eternal life receive exaltation; they are sons of God, joint-heirs with Christ…they overcome all things, have all power, and receive the fullness of the Father. They are gods.” McConkie, p. 237, 1979 ed.

[Of course, McConkie cites D&C 29:43-44…but these verses say no such thing…v. 43 actually says that ”immortality unto eternal life” is given to ”as many as would BELIEVE”…’shifty’ McConkie…trying to pull a rabbit when no hat exists]

“’Eternal life’ is a higher state than immortality alone and means to live forever in a resurrected condition in the presence of God, and to become like God…Eternal life is exaltation into the type and quality of life that God lives. Receiving eternal life is conditional, predicated upon obedience to the fullness of gospel law and ordinances (D&C 29:43-44; 130:20-21). It requires voluntary obedience to all of the ordinances and principles of the gospel…continuing through…the covenants of the Endowment and marriage in the temple…” (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 2:677-678)

“The…gift of eternal life…is conditional. In order to qualify, one must deny oneself of ungodliness and honor the ordinance and covenants of the temple.” (Lds apostle Russell M. Nelson, “Divine Love,” Ensign, Feb. 2003, p. 24

Mormons believe that only their “Melchizedek priests” (D&C 76:57) are the ones eligible for “dwell[ing] in the presence of God and his Christ forever and ever.” (D&C 76:62)

Other 'Interchangeable' references of 'eternal life'=exaltation=godhood:

Eternal life, known also as salvation or exaltation, comes to those who believe and seek to remain true to the gospel covenant.” (BYU prof Robert L. Millet, The Mormon Faith: Understanding Restored Christianity, p. 52)

“Do you desire to enter into the celestial Kingdom and receive eternal life? Then be willing to keep all the commandments the Lord may give you” (Lds “prophet” Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection, p. 207)

Encyclopedia of Mormonism: “Exaltation is the greatest of all the gifts and attainments possible. It is available only in the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom and is reserved for members of the Church of the Firstborn. This exalted status, called eternal life, is available to be received by a man and a wife. It means not only living in God’s presence, but receiving power to do as God does, including the power to bear children after the resurrection.” (Encylopedia of Mormonism, 2:479)

36 posted on 01/17/2011 6:20:45 PM PST by Colofornian ( Life isn't FAIR!)
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“The Scriptures Teach and Testify of Jesus Christ (Mormon - Posted by an actual Mormon)”

Shouldn’t this be labeled...

“The Scriptures Teach and Testify of Jesus Christ (Mormon - Cultic Vanity)


37 posted on 01/17/2011 6:38:39 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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