Skip to comments.Vatican says its Irish abuse letter misunderstood
Posted on 01/18/2011 9:23:23 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
DUBLIN -- A 1997 letter from the Vatican warned Ireland's Catholic bishops not to report all suspected child-abuse cases to police - a disclosure that victims' groups described as "the smoking gun" needed to show that the church enforced a worldwide culture of covering up crimes by pedophile priests.
The newly revealed letter, obtained by Irish broadcasters RTE and provided to The Associated Press, documents the Vatican's rejection of a 1996 Irish church initiative to begin helping police identify pedophile priests following Ireland's first wave of publicly disclosed lawsuits...
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"The letter is of huge international significance, because it shows that the Vatican's intention is to prevent reporting of abuse to criminal authorities...
Yep. One more “smoking gun” to add to the pile of smoking guns.
Considering the source, would you expect anything less.
A better method would have been immediate public denunciation and shaming. The church and its seminaries were infected in the 60’s and 70’s by liberal freaks of all kinds, and what it really needed was a good purging.
The Catholic church was quick enough to ex-communicate Luther.
Catholics are quick enough to tell me that I ex-communicated myself.
And they not only do not ex-communicate these priests who commit these vile sins, but go out of their way to protect them?
And they claim that Jesus gave these men the power through apostolic succession to send others to hell through binding their sins to them?
They claim to represent Christ on earth? Would Christ behave like that?
Christ’s opinion of those who would hurt children.....
but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.
It’s inconceivable to think that any of these men posing as priests made it in to heaven. If their priesthood is a farce, then the people who received sacraments from them have been deceived.
The newly revealed letter, obtained by Irish broadcasters RTE and provided to The Associated Press, documents the Vatican's rejection of a 1996 Irish church initiative to begin helping police identify pedophile priests following Ireland's first wave of publicly disclosed lawsuits....
These excerpts from earlier threads bear repeating:
In 1922, the Vatican promulgated an instruction to do with what it called crimen solicitationis (the crime of solicitation within the confessional) and what it called the worst crime - the sexual abuse of children. The document was issued in Latin. No authoritative version was produced in English. The document was circulated only to bishops and under terms of strict secrecy....
....The 1922 and 1962 Vatican instructions on dealing with allegations of clerical child sex abuse demanded absolute secrecy in the conduct of investigations. The secrecy was so pervasive that, to some, it seemed to demand that the complaint also be kept secret from the state authorities. Cannon 1341 states that the bishop is to start a judicial administrative procedure, for the imposition or the declaration of penalties, only when he perceives that neither by fraternal correction nor reproof, nor by any methods of pastoral care, can the scandal be sufficiently repaired, justice restored, and the offender reformed.
-- from the thread Vatican guilty of unholy compassion for paedophiles
The report by the independent Commission of Investigation, headed by Judge Yvonne Murphy, looked specifically at the handling of some 325 abuse claims in the Archdiocese of Dublin during the period from January 1975 to May 2004.
"The Dublin Archdiocese's preoccupations in dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, at least until the mid-1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the church and the preservation of its assets," said the report. "All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities. The archdiocese did not implement its own canon law rules and did its best to avoid any application of the law of the state"....
-- from the thread Pope calls Irish church leaders to Vatican to discuss abuse report
While it feel tender towards my brothers and sisters in Christ, I must say to a FR Catholic who told me I must eventually return to “The one true church”...I must say it will be a cold day in Hell.
I second that emotion. 8~)
How on earth can you excommunicate yourself?
Apparently Rome finds it difficult to excommunicate “another Christ.”
Blasphemy in; blasphemy out.
According to Crimen Solicitationis, the victim and his family all face excommunication if they even speak about the sexual abuse to anyone other than a church official.
And they wonder why it takes years to prosecute these crimes.
What he said....Oh my, this is so sad.
Yeah, but what about school teachers and other professionals?
(Just so you won’t have to wait for it)
(Many thanks. I hate suspense almost as much as I hate irony.)
Do you see this story as “attacking the Catholic church?”
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