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Could Extraterrestrial Intelligence Sway religious Beliefs?
Space.com ^ | January 24, 2011 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 01/24/2011 8:55:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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Aliens vs. religion?

One impact that extraterrestrials might have on society is in the sector of religion, said theologian Ted Peters at the Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary in Berkeley, Calif. For instance, aliens might lead religions to question whether a second genesis of life elsewhere belongs within the biblical understanding of creation. Might Jesus Christ have appeared more than once in the universe? [10 Alien Encounters Debunked]

"It's been argued for a couple of centuries now whether one incarnation of God as Jesus Christ for the entirety of creation is sufficient, with some thinking that God would do so multiple times as appropriate for the capacity of any individual species to comprehend," Peters told SPACE.com.

To see what effects the discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence might have on religion, Peters and his colleagues surveyed more than 1,300 individuals worldwide from multiple religious traditions, -- including Roman Catholics, evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants, Orthodox Christians, Mormons, Jews, Buddhists and non-religious groups.

They found the vast majority of religious believers — regardless of religion — were overwhelmingly confident that they wouldn’t suffer a collapse in faith in the face of evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence. In addition, roughly one-third of religious people thought that the faith of other religions would be threatened, while two-thirds of nonreligious people thought that aliens would sway the faith of the religious as a whole.

Can space change religious beliefs?

There are many open questions as to how people on Earth might view beliefs from space. Could advances that alien civilizations could bring be perceived much like a secular form of salvation? Might advanced civilizations and their perhaps equally advanced philosophies make our religions feel primitive?.......

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: aliens; callingartbell; extraterrestrial; faith; religion; scientism; theology
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1 posted on 01/24/2011 8:56:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not mine.

God created the entire universe and all that’s in it.


2 posted on 01/24/2011 8:58:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

IBPD


3 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:02 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Depends on what the Martians think of the bible.


4 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nope.


5 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:11 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
if you believe in an omnipotent God as I do, then why not.
6 posted on 01/24/2011 9:00:08 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: broken_arrow1

it doesn’r matter what the Martians think of the Bible, but what say ye???


7 posted on 01/24/2011 9:01:28 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is no "hard evidence" for extraterrestials, but if they suddenly showed up, it would not alter my faith at all.

I suppose that some folks might maintain that there is no "hard evidence" for angels or God -- but if they suddenly showed up, I think every knee would bow.

In other words, I think the overweening faith of the secular humanists is built on sand.

8 posted on 01/24/2011 9:03:53 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: broken_arrow1

“Depends on what the Martians think of the bible.”

Not much. The Martians have about as many thoughts as your average leftist. After all, they are just alien bacteria...


9 posted on 01/24/2011 9:05:08 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: cripplecreek

Bingo.


10 posted on 01/24/2011 9:07:51 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: broken_arrow1

What if the aliens are Christians?


11 posted on 01/24/2011 9:09:52 AM PST by Frankss
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To: kjam22; denydenydeny; Quix

Thought you might be interested...


12 posted on 01/24/2011 9:10:13 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 734 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: cripplecreek
LMAO...I just had a perverse thought....

What if the aliens showed up and were looking for the planet where Christ was born....

Talk about a bunch of popping corks....the libtards would be apoplectic..

13 posted on 01/24/2011 9:10:46 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Soothesayer
Non religious people always criticize the faithful for believing without proof. These same folks will except the existence of extraterrestrial beings without proof.

Like a uncle of mine used to say when the subject of alien beings in space ships came up.

"Where are they of they have been here all of this time?"

14 posted on 01/24/2011 9:12:20 AM PST by wmileo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"It's been argued for a couple of centuries now whether one incarnation of God as Jesus Christ for the entirety of creation is sufficient, with some thinking that God would do so multiple times as appropriate for the capacity of any individual species to comprehend," Peters told SPACE.com.

Oh no, not again

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15 posted on 01/24/2011 9:13:39 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not mine.
God created it all.


16 posted on 01/24/2011 9:13:59 AM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think its what’s behind the excitement several years back about “SETI,” whose odds of finding extraterresrials are so thin as to be unworthy of funding.


17 posted on 01/24/2011 9:14:24 AM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of Barack Obama.)
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To: null and void

THX THX.


18 posted on 01/24/2011 9:16:01 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Might as well ask “would monkeys flying out of your butt sway your religious beliefs”.

It ain’t happenin’.


19 posted on 01/24/2011 9:16:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hasn’t hurt the Mormons. ;^)


20 posted on 01/24/2011 9:16:32 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: ClearCase_guy
"I suppose that some folks might maintain that there is no "hard evidence" for angels or God -- but if they suddenly showed up, I think every knee would bow."

Actually, quite a few would rise up and say "you didn't get me what I wanted for Christmas!" It's all bad, and it's your fault!"

21 posted on 01/24/2011 9:16:43 AM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of Barack Obama.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The Bible is clear: Jesus was sacrificed once.

Some think this may be part of the Last Days deception.

Could be. Personally, I think our gov’t has some very high-performance vehicles. And they’re most certainly not going to tell us all about them in the news.

At top speed, an SR-71 exceeds the muzzle velocity of a 30.06 bullet. And that plane was in production 45 years ago. Don’t know if NASA still flies the 3 they had.


22 posted on 01/24/2011 9:19:28 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In other words, I think the overweening faith of the secular humanists is built on sand.

A week or so back a similar article was posted. The scientist in the article was a techno-bigot.

He claimed that older people would have trouble accepting the arrival of aliens because we didn't grow up with all the technology since video games. The fact is that we 40+ folks have a long history of accepting new things. Its the younger ideological morons who have never been expected to accept reality.

I think the plot of the movie Mars Attacks is probably a lot closer to reality. The older folks would wisely hang back to observe while the young utopians would run with open arms into alien weapons fire.
23 posted on 01/24/2011 9:20:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: F15Eagle

If you encounter “extra-terrestrials” or “spirit guides” or “ghosts” or “talk to a dead relative”

you’re dealing with demons. Nothing else.

“Extra terrestrials” used to show up to deceive people and were called “fairies” or “goblins”. And where people weren’ hallucinating, you have the same entities behind those encounters as well.


24 posted on 01/24/2011 9:22:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Some people have postulated that the "great delusion" spoken Thess.could be the existance of so called extra-terrestrials. I have no doubt that the appearance of space aliens would shake the faith of many, and cause many others to permanently write off the Bible as fiction.

For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, -2 Thess 2:11 NASB

We've certainly been primed for it.


25 posted on 01/24/2011 9:23:55 AM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: cripplecreek
I think the plot of the movie Mars Attacks is probably a lot closer to reality. The older folks would wisely hang back to observe while the young utopians would run with open arms into alien weapons fire.

That was a good movie. It was great having an evil alien for a change. It was also great to watch all the liberals try to explain everything away in terms of our failing to understand them when, in reality, they were exactly as they appeared to be: horny little a-holes bent on pillage and destruction.
26 posted on 01/24/2011 9:24:16 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan; cripplecreek

Independence Day, also, showed what happened to those standing on top of buildings with welcome signs...

Just an allegory for the way the left treats all enemies of humanity (ie, Muslims).


27 posted on 01/24/2011 9:25:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Logic dictates that given their high level of technical development... ...they're an advanced culture. Therefore, peaceful and enlightened.
28 posted on 01/24/2011 9:25:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: cripplecreek
I think the plot of the movie Mars Attacks is probably a lot closer to reality. The older folks would wisely hang back to observe while the young utopians would run with open arms into alien weapons fire.

Everybody stood up and cheered this scene


29 posted on 01/24/2011 9:25:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

http://www.timburtoncollective.com/sound/mars7.wav


30 posted on 01/24/2011 9:26:23 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: MrB

Certainly very possible. I am reminded that Pharaoh’s “magicians” were able to turn rods into snakes.

It most certainly wasn’t by the power of God; it was Satanic power.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%207:10-12&version=KJV

Exodus 7:10-12 (King James Version)

10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods.


31 posted on 01/24/2011 9:28:45 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: dfwgator

Quick! Find those Slim Whitman LP’s!!!


32 posted on 01/24/2011 9:29:39 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

“All green of skin. 800 centuries ago their bodily fluids include the birth of half-breeds. For the fundimental truth and self-determination of the cosmos. For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.”


33 posted on 01/24/2011 9:31:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Brookhaven

There’s the verse.


34 posted on 01/24/2011 9:32:06 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A friend of mine believes that what the church calls demons, are in fact extra-terrestials, and the church has always tried to paint them in a bad light, for this very reason.


35 posted on 01/24/2011 9:32:36 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: BenLurkin

Side note -

has anyone heard (or have the link to) the audio where someone mixed the alien’s screeching “ack ack” speech with Hillary’s “I am sick and tired” speech?

It’s hillarious.


36 posted on 01/24/2011 9:32:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Fermi's Paradox.

There are no space aliens.

Just us.

37 posted on 01/24/2011 9:33:03 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: stuartcr

The actual reverse is true.

What “the world” thinks are ETs are in fact demons sent to deceive and dominate.


38 posted on 01/24/2011 9:34:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: F15Eagle
The Bible is clear: Jesus was sacrificed once.

The Bible does not even say a peep concerning extraterrestrial life. It is strictly a Terra-oriented document.

39 posted on 01/24/2011 9:35:00 AM PST by GingisK
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To: BenLurkin

Don’t know that one


40 posted on 01/24/2011 9:35:14 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Upcoming topical episode on the "V" series on ABC
41 posted on 01/24/2011 9:37:02 AM PST by mikrofon (V is for Vatican)
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To: F15Eagle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTE_voc6abk


42 posted on 01/24/2011 9:37:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: GingisK

“The Bible does not even say a peep concerning extraterrestrial life”

Agreed.

And Jesus was sacrificed once (not saying you disagree) and sat down at the right-hand of God the Father.

Hebrews 1:3 KJV

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Hebrews 10:12 KJV

But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;


43 posted on 01/24/2011 9:37:46 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

HERE’S A HIDEOUS EXAMPLE VIA SADDLEBACK.

GOD HAVE MERCY ON US:

http://ponderingsfrompatmos.blogspot.com/2011/01/saddleback-health-fitness-seminar.html


44 posted on 01/24/2011 9:38:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
beliefs from space

Replace “aliens” with “ghosts” or “leprechauns” and see how intelligent this speculation sounds.

The Faith of Carl Sagan lives on.

45 posted on 01/24/2011 9:39:24 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: MrB

I’ll ask you the same thing I asked him...You say it’s true, can you prove either exist? Can you supply proof that would convince anyone, anywhere? Can the proof be repeated? Is it just a matter of what one believes?


46 posted on 01/24/2011 9:40:02 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: MrB

“Might as well ask “would monkeys flying out of your butt sway your religious beliefs”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCf_t9aRgXc

*snicker*


47 posted on 01/24/2011 9:40:33 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: BenLurkin

Ah. And I’ve got that around here, on VHS (yes back then) somewhere.


48 posted on 01/24/2011 9:41:50 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: stuartcr

I have an authoritative work from Someone Who knows.
You have your own “experience”.


49 posted on 01/24/2011 9:42:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: wmileo

Well there is the theory that they have already been here, got what they needed, wanted and left. To boring, not $$$ feasible, off the main trade routes who knows.


50 posted on 01/24/2011 9:48:51 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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