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Saddleback Health & Fitness Seminar - Infomercial for Sustainable Development
Ponderings From Patmos ^ | 1/29/2011 | jenpek

Posted on 01/29/2011 2:28:26 PM PST by RnMomof7

Saddleback Health & Fitness Seminar - Infomercial for Sustainable Development Today on Patmos we will discuss my experience at the Saddleback Health and Fitness Seminar this past weekend. I first arrived to Saddleback's campus only to be told that "all parking lots were full." I drove across the street to see if there were any spots available in the business lots and they were full too. I ended up parking in a housing tract and walked a mile or two back to Saddleback's campus. As I arrived, I overheard a parking lot attendant say they estimated about 6,000 people had come to the seminar.

I was a little late, so I was grateful to my nephew who went online and began to relay what was being said in the opening comments, as I didn't want to miss what was to be the foundation of the talks that day. I was a little taken aback when my nephew told me the first speaker, Dr. Amen, made reference to the Egyptian pyramids and how they were built upon an "idea," and if man could build something like that all those thousands of years ago, what could he do today if he put his mind to it? I found that to be somewhat disturbing, as the pyramids, no matter how impressive they were, represent the ancient pagan religions which got their start in Babylon when Nimrod gathered men (the community) together to commit idolatry by building a tower to honor themselves as gods (Gen. Ch. 11). [1] And yet here it was, the analogy that was chosen to illustrate this new "idea" Saddleback would launch their 52 week program with. No matter what Dr. Amen's intent was, I believe the analogy was appropriate, and the subtle message is telling..."MAN CAN DO ANYTHING HE PUTS HIS MIND TO." Sound familiar? (Read Gen. 3:4-5). [2]

As I began to head up the hill toward the main sanctuary, a Saddleback tram pulled up and the driver asked if I wanted a lift and I said I preferred to walk, but thanks. The driver yelled, "Let's all give her a hand folks, she's started the Daniel Plan already!" And the people on the tram cheered. Nevermind the fact that I have been walking my entire life because I enjoy doing so, not because of some health and fitness campaign. I sensed I was entering a nightmare.

The main sanctuary was full & it was standing room only. They told me the overflow areas were full too. So I found a spot on the patio outside the main sanctuary looking in. I had a good view and could see the stage perfectly. Their outdoor sound system made it so I could roam around, observe the audience, continue to listen to the guest speakers, and take notes.

To begin, I'd like to state that Saturday Jan. 15th, 2011 will go down in the history books as the day Saddleback Church was sold a bill of goods. The masses had come out in droves for answers to their weight loss difficulties & health problems, but unbeknownst to them, they were being given a prescription for restructuring society & population control.

The prescription goes by the name Agenda 21, a.k.a. "Sustainable Development" or "Smart Growth." Agenda 21 is a published document put out by the United Nations with the intent to put limits on population and to restructure nation-states into a global society. [3] Rick Warren's "new friends" had dubbed it, "The Daniel Plan - God's Prescription For Your Health." A more appropriate title would've been, "Sustainable Living - Destroying Inalienable Rights, One Community at a Time."

By the time I settled into listening more intently, the second speaker, Mark Hyman, began. It didn't take too long to figure out what the basis of his message was. We "need to heal with community" (he termed this "accompaniment"), "we're here for the sake of each other," this plan "is our way out," this plan "saved me," and in fact will "change the world." Saddleback was being told they were a "test community" to show the world how to live "healthy and sustainably." When I heard these words, my heart sank. It was as I'd feared. I knew which buzzwords to listen for, and he was hitting them all. The audience was told they would be champions in health to show the world what "living sustainably" was all about, but Dr. Hyman is a leftist who is more than a champion in health, he's a change agent for the global elite, as is Dr. Oz & Dr. Amen. Dr. Hyman is the founder and medical director of the Ultra Wellness Center, he advises Dr. Oz's healthcore group, and he's a nominee to President Obama's advisory group on prevention, health promotion, and integrative and public health. [4] Hmmmmmm. I smell an agenda.

Dr. Hyman practices what's known as "functional medicine," which means he uses a "whole systems" approach to medicine, in other words, he practices medicine "wholistically." This is also known as "Mind Body" medicine. At Saddleback's seminar, "mind body" or "functional" medicine was presented as if it's completely scientific. Any scientist worth his salt will tell you that yes, the body can be measured scientifically, but the mind falls into an entirely different category which can never be measured by science. As stated by Dave Hunt in his book Occult Invasion - The Subtle Seduction of the World and Church, "Physical science, by very definition, can make no judgements concerning a nonphysical realm" as is the mind & the soul. [5] In other words, the mind and the soul are scientifically immeasurable.

It's the same with the religions of "Mind Science." Calling a religion "Mind Science" or "Scientology," when there's nothing scientific about it, is the same as calling a cereal "Grapenuts" when it contains no grapes or nuts. But we live in an era when the masses have been sufficiently dumbed down and all it takes to impress is clever packaging and branding. If "they" say it's science, then dog-gone-it, it's science! After all, "these doctors are on television."

As I sat through all 3 presentations by Dr.'s Hyman, Amen, & Oz, what came to mind were the traveling snake oil salesmen of the 1800's. They talk fast, so fast that the message that's really being given, goes right over people's heads. They used tactics to tug at the heart strings such as videos of sick little girls who suddenly got well from being on "the program" and have been "set free" from relying on medications. Then they flooded the audience with "facts" and "statistics" to scare any grandmother, such as "a tsunami of disease is hitting us," "life expectancy is going down," "1 out of 2 people are diabetic or pre-diabetic," "70% of all agricultural land is taken up by growing animals to feed all the people," "the bigger your body gets, the more your brain shrinks," etc.

I about fell off my chair when Dr. Hyman stated, "The key to the success of the "Daniel Plan" is "group living"..."individuals" will not succeed, our only hope lies in "community." And with that, it was announced that the "Saddleback community" would be an example of "sustainable living" and would set the course to "change this world"...and the crowd went wild! I have to admit that visions of the masses being manipulated by Adolf Hitler's oratory skills came to my mind, only this particular crowd had just been manipulated by a really bad infomercial.

Dr. Hyman said that he is a Jew, Dr. Amen is a Christian, and Dr. Oz is a Muslim. And doesn't that represent the demographic of "most of the population of the world?" But then he said, "We're all the same underneath." True to his snake oil salesman fashion, Dr. Hyman didn't define his terms. What in the world does he mean "we're all the same underneath"? That can mean a number of things. Since he was speaking to a religious crowd, I'd venture to say some of the folks present took that to mean we're all children of God (Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.), which is patently false according to the Bible. The Bible says there are only two groups, children of wrath and children of God. You're either one or the other, a believer in Christ Jesus, or a non-believer. We aren't "all the same underneath." (Ephesians Ch. 2). [6]

The only way in which we're "all the same underneath" is we're all sinners in need of a savior, and the savior isn't "sustainable living." The Savior is Jesus Christ and He is the only way unto salvation. (John 14:6). [7] And to become a child of God, Jesus said, "You must be born again." (John Ch. 3). [8] The tragic thing about the talks given at Saddleback is, Jesus was never mentioned...and I mean NEVER. There was a reference to Jesus in the opening worship song along with a few passing references to God by Rick Warren. Daniel Amen mentioned that our bodies were "a temple of the Holy Spirit and the brain is the innersanctum," but in the lessons being taught that day, Jesus didn't make the cut, "sustainable lifestyles" & "group living" did.

Following Dr. Hyman's talk, my best friend arrived to observe the day with me, only to hear Dr. Amen mention in his presentation that he did a brain scan on one of his clients who had a habit of cheating on his wife. The brain scan showed that there were "holes in the pre-frontal cortex of his brain" which controls the impulses. In other words, this man wasn't sinful, he was "mentally ill." All he needed was to get on the "Change Your Brain, Change Your Body" program, and his personal struggles with sin were remedied. Once again, Jesus was removed from the equation. My friend and I were dumbfounded when we listened to the Saddleback crowd cheer. My best friend couldn't contain it any longer and let out a, "You've got to be kidding me." My thoughts exactly!

Dr. Hyman recommended yoga and meditation to the crowd. Dr. Amen gave a diplomatic denunciation of yoga (which is contradictory since he has recommended it himself), but about five sentences later mentioned a study done by a friend of his named Andy Newberg who did brain scans on Tibetan nuns and Franciscan priests while in "prayer and contemplation" and the study showed that "spiritual connection" is healthy. Dr. Amen has been an advocate of "Sa Ta Na Ma" meditation. [9]

If by chance any attendees of the Saddleback "Health and Fitness Seminar" read this blog post, I encourage you to educate yourself about what globalism truly is. You also need to research Agenda 21. As stated earlier, the purpose of Agenda 21 is to restructure society. Sounds conspiratorial, I know. But it isn't a conspiracy, it's a published document of the United Nations that's in full swing. Anywhere you hear the terms, "Sustainable Development," "sustainable living," "smart growth," "going green," etc., rest assured you've just been exposed to the U.N.'s Agenda 21. [10]

It shouldn't surprise us that Pastor Rick Warren would allow a seminar of this nature at Saddleback, after all, he himself has "GONE GREEN." [11] He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. [12] This illustrates the natural progression of one being unequally yoked with non-believers & buying into heresies such as "Kingdom Now," "Dominionism," or "Restoration Theology." Where these heresies reign, as they do at Saddleback, you will find that the focus subtly shifts from salvation in Christ alone, through faith alone, to misguided efforts to restore mankind & the earth through "community" works, sustainable living, and social justice. How convenient that these just happen to be the vehicles which the United Nations is using to further it's own agenda to restructure society & unite the world under its governing body of global elites.

TRUE TRUTH: 2 Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

(I found it to be slightly humorous that, on page 9 of the booklet which Saddleback passed out to attendees, the symptom of "itchy ears" was listed in the "Medical Symptom/Toxicity Questionnaire"...oh, the irony!)

Endnotes: 1. Genesis 11:4 - "Then they said, 'Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth.'"

2. Genesis 3:4-5 - "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

3. Agenda 21 -

4. Mark Hyman's presentation at "Authors @ Google" titled, The UltraMind Solution: Healthy Body, Powerful Mind.

5. Occult Invasion - The Subtle Seduction of the World and the Church, Dave Hunt, Harvest House Publishers 1998, pg. 61

6. Ephesians Ch. 2:1-5 - "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)."

7. John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

8. John 3:3 - Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

9. Dr. Amen recommends "Sa Ta Na Ma" meditation a form of Kirtin Kriya yoga.

10. Agenda 21 - The U.N. Plan for Your Sustainable Community

11. A Greener Spirit: Evangelicals Embrace "Creation Care"

12. Council on Foreign Relations Membership Roster

TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostate; fraud; newage
He calls this the "Daniel Diet:" to give it the veneer of religiosity but This is New Age religion and more .. it is one world government coming into the church
1 posted on 01/29/2011 2:28:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Dutchboy88; Iscool; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; editor-surveyor; metmom; boatbums; Quix; ...

Ping to the gang

2 posted on 01/29/2011 2:32:12 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Sounds like vegetarian communism to me, sad to hear this.

3 posted on 01/29/2011 2:32:34 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

I would say so too.. this is really about politics as much as “religion” or health

4 posted on 01/29/2011 2:33:46 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I ended up parking in a housing tract and walked a mile or two ...

Was it a mile, or was it two? If the author did this every day - four miles round trip? - she wouldn't need the diet.

5 posted on 01/29/2011 2:43:49 PM PST by Tax-chick (An attack on Sarah Palin is an attack on me.)
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To: RnMomof7; Chieftain

HA HA...

The charlatan that gave us a a Purpose Driven Life, made a fortune and then promoted St Ashley ( the woman who read the Purpose Driven Life to a murderer who ran into her home after killing people during his courtroom episode.).

Rick Warren was a con man way back and it just keeps getting worse...He is just a different style of Rev Wright..ha.

6 posted on 01/29/2011 2:45:10 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Exactly ..

7 posted on 01/29/2011 2:45:59 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Joel Olsteen is another one...He is really more of a Wayne Dyer Self Help guy...and nice to listen to...but a Christian Preacher, uh, think not.

8 posted on 01/29/2011 2:48:51 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: RnMomof7

Great post. Thanks

9 posted on 01/29/2011 2:49:30 PM PST by nysuperdoodle
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To: RnMomof7

For those of you wondering what “Saddleback” is - it used to be a church.

10 posted on 01/29/2011 2:51:17 PM PST by Yet_Again
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To: All

Let's Put This Baby To Bed!!
Less Than $5.1k To Go!!
Please Help End The FReepathon

11 posted on 01/29/2011 3:04:11 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Yet_Again

Thanks, it never dawned on me that someone might not know :)

12 posted on 01/29/2011 3:17:02 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

At least he finally admitted that the bible say homosexuality is a sin ..that is a huge first step.... .for HIM

13 posted on 01/29/2011 3:18:34 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Rick Warren has always been a phony.

14 posted on 01/29/2011 3:28:45 PM PST by montag813 (
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To: RnMomof7

Leading his flock astray

15 posted on 01/29/2011 3:34:33 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

And their friends.. he is seeing this as a way to get new people in pathetic

16 posted on 01/29/2011 3:36:53 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7


17 posted on 01/29/2011 3:47:37 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: RnMomof7

that Rick Warren has devolved into new age philosophy and heretical teachings in order to decieve many people is no suprise..

I just hope he (along with Satan fail in this latests deception).


18 posted on 01/29/2011 4:01:16 PM PST by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: RnMomof7

Red flags started flying for me when he first had Obama there. Was that 06 or 07?

Then there’s Hybels with the whole Bill Clinton thing at Willow Creek. Sad

19 posted on 01/29/2011 4:47:20 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: RnMomof7; Dutchboy88; Iscool; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; editor-surveyor; metmom; boatbums; ...
He needs an Osteen moment.
20 posted on 01/29/2011 4:58:44 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support
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To: wmfights

What do you mean by that?

21 posted on 01/29/2011 5:02:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7
2 Timothy 4:1-5 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

22 posted on 01/29/2011 5:24:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Osteen was pinned down by a lib and had to answer whether homosexuality is a sin or not. He hesitated, but in the end said yes homosexuality is a sin. IOW, he was forced to deny Scripture or stand on it's Truth. Warren needs to come to the same point. He must decide where he stands.
23 posted on 01/29/2011 6:49:24 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support
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To: wmfights

I see.

It’s too bad it sounds like his decision wasn’t based on conviction and Scripture, but rather what would do the least harm to his ministry.

I’m not sure that that is really a decision on where he stands or whether it was damage control.

24 posted on 01/29/2011 6:54:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

Yepper!!!! With this charlatan, it’s all about the $$$$$$$$

25 posted on 01/29/2011 7:16:53 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
St. Trashley.
26 posted on 01/30/2011 6:20:00 PM PST by Chieftain (2011 the year of CONSERVATIVES!)
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i stand corrected...don’t you wish sometimes, that we could go back in time to all those bleeding hearts that Adored St Trashley and called us cynical and evil???HA!

But little did they know then....YOU AND I ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!

27 posted on 01/30/2011 6:44:54 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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