Posted on 02/07/2011 2:15:55 PM PST by wmfights
Sometimes. I usually ignore them, but then they persist. So, sometimes I point out that if its a natural disaster in the states then its a natural disaster in other countries, too.
There’s no such thing as a “natural” disaster. The earth was condemned when mankind fell from grace.
The Founders wouldn't have allowed it to have any more sway than say Christianity. They didn't like Theocracies period. Not Islamic nor Christian.
"In a letter to John Adams, written August 22, 1813, Jefferson says:"It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticism that three are one and one is three, and yet, that the one is not three, and the three are not one.... But this constitutes the craft, the power, and profits of the priests. Sweep away their gossamer fabrics of fictitious religion, and they would catch no more flies" ([Thomas Jefferson, to John Adams, Aug. 22, 1813 Jefferson s Works, Vol. IV, p. 205, Randolph's ed.] )."
John Adams Letter to François Adriaan van der Kemp (16 February 1809)
I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations. If I were an atheist of the other sect, who believe or pretend to believe that all is ordered by chance, I should believe that chance had ordered the Jews to preserve and propagate to all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise, almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be the great essential principle of all morality, and consequently of all civilization.
John Adams Letter to Thomas Jefferson (4 November 1816)
We have now, it Seems a National Bible Society, to propagate King James's Bible, through all Nations. Would it not be better to apply these pious Subscriptions, to purify Christendom from the Corruptions of Christianity; than to propagate those Corruptions in Europe Asia, Africa and America! ... Conclude not from all this, that I have renounced the Christian religion, or that I agree with Dupuis in all his Sentiments. Far from it. I see in every Page, Something to recommend Christianity in its Purity and Something to discredit its Corruptions. ... The Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount contain my Religion.
Makes perfect sense when added to the van der kemp letter! Jesus was Jewish and preached repentance and keeping the Commandments.
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."(-letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT -- "The Complete Jefferson" by Saul K. Padover, pp 518-519 )U.S. Constitution - Article VI Section 3
3. The senators and representatives before-mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/art6.asp)
I think you'll find that a lot if not most of the Founding Fathers were Deists.
Have a nice evening.
We are a country founded on Judeo Christian principles. I suspect it could easily be proven that most in this country fail to live up to even the least of those principles today. Sad but true.
Gotta agree with that. The moral compass has cracked and broken.
At least I backed my post up with FACTS.
You have a nice night too. ;)
I’ve debated people like you before. I have facts and links. The truth is why waste my time. It won’t change your opinion. And you certainly won’t change mine. What’s the point? I don’t engage in futility.
Don’t take Saran lightly.
He’ll wrap it all up and not move.
“I think you’ll find that a lot if not most of the Founding Fathers were Deists. “
Prove it. I enjoy watching people twist about stating the untruths they’ve heard in public school.
Then it isn’t just me.
Absolutely. Same style.
>Most Christians are not taking the time to learn how to respond to muslims.<
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Sheesh, how do you talk to people who plan to kill you and make no bones about it?
What are you trying to say? Please explain.
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