Posted on 02/07/2011 3:54:06 PM PST by greyfoxx39
Mormons are no more Christian than Muslims are Christians and I refuse to listen to any of their religious commentary. Joseph Smith was friendlier than Muhhamad in that he lacked the violent and cruel teachings but he was just as deluded and just as much of a scam artist and a fraud. It makes me angry when people try to claim that they can follow his garbage and still consider themselves Christian. They aren’t.
“...66 percent of Pentecostals and 43 percent of “other Christians” believe that the righteous will be rewarded with wealth.”
I’m Pentecostal. I know a lot of Pentecostals. Assembly of God expressly teaches against this silly idea from the pulpit.
My only question left is this: How many Latter-day Saints will allow themselves to fall prey to the prosperity gospel?
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DUH
ALL OF THEM
Well the mormon “prosperity gospel” any way...
The Morg CEOs demand a tithe of 10% plus and promise life averylasting, and good luck fortune and a perfect life and a trip through the mormon remple and a higher berth in the mormon hereafter...
WHEW
Plus a good looking teenybopper spouse now and many more when the mormon guy is dead...
Hey a whole planet full...
Hey !!! those $5 BILLION magic malls dont build themselves
That’s right. I’ve heard enough of the Name It and Claim It and the Jesus Please Us gospel in my time. Godliness is NOT Gain, but I’ve seen an awful lot of people who thought the Get Rich Quick With Jesus Gospel was just right. My MIL was extremely annoying with it in past years; accusing us of “agreeing to have the flu” (unlike herself, who wasn’t going to AGREE to have the flu). Oh, and she had big old dollar signs in her eyes for a long time, as did most of her “spirit filled” friends. We had to live around her, so it was sort of hard to deal with.
At least ALL Christian ceremonies are open to All. Something the LDS can’t say. ( How’s that black outreach going with the LDS, say, vs the Pentecostals and Evangelicals. You know, on account of the saintliness of the LDS and all )
Ah, the old “it’s all very clear but complicated, and I understand it perfectly but just don’t have the time to actually explain it” argument.
In my state, a good local legislature, speaking about the harm caused by abortion, referenced a study which shows that after an abortion, women are more likely to have kids with abnormalities. He then noted that sin has consequences, and so this shouldn’t shock us.
In response, he got lambasted by disabled-rights groups, and many of his supporters even felt like he was saying that their disabled kids were the result of some sin they had committed. He had to apologize and explain that this wasn’t what he meant, and it was all very messy.
Of course the “answers to questions like that are in the Bible”. The book of Job is one big story of how following God and abiding in him brings you peace, prosperity, long life, health, and happiness. Paul had a physical affliction, which he prayed constantly to have lifted, but God chose not to remove this affliction — and it wasn’t a sign that Paul just wasn’t giving enough to the church.
In this world you will know tribulation, but rejoice, I have overcome the world.
I come not to bring peace, but a sword.
I don’t see why you think it would take you a “good while” to offer a coherent argument as to why two thousand years of church teaching is wrong, and that we really SHOULD expect to be prosperous and healthy while here on earth, if we just give enough money to the right pastor.
I’m constantly reminded not to look for motives in religion threads, and to be kinder and gentler. What exactly is your opinion on the matter of the “prosperity gospel”? Do you agree with it, disagree with it, or what? Do you think we SHOULD expect to all be healthy, or did you agree with me that we can’t expect to be healthy or prosperous just because we are Christians?
I do tend to take each article I read as it’s own discussion, so yes, I didn’t correlate it with some random post in another thread from a previous year.
I knew what the title addition on the thread meant, but when it came up in the body of the posts, it was worth discussing on it’s own merits. You see, not every person reading the religion forums knows how they are supposed to react to the mormon thread designation, and get confused into thinking we are actually having a discussion about something.
I’ve better things to do. I’m not arguing with you.
Your mistake there is to get the argument wrong.
I gave a working definition of the “prosperity gospel”. I think, but you’ll have to explain, that your argument with me is whether a particular pastor preaches the “prosperity gospel”, but your argument was that I mis-characterised what the term “prosperity gospel” means.
If you go back and read what I wrote, you will see that I did not make a claim as to whether the church being described preached such a gospel; I said that there were people who did preach such a gospel, and that those that did were playing on guilt and greed.
Do you disagree that there are preachers who play on greed and guilt, and that these preachers are teaching the “prosperity gospel”, where doing the “right thing” leads to wealth and happiness here on earth? I used to watch these guys for the laugh factor, I cant’ remember the most obvious example’s name though, telling his audience to send in some money and it would be returned 10-fold, meaning literally they’d have 10 times as much money, as opposed to the biblical meaning of that term.
Which false MSM stories do you think I heard to get that impression from watching the sunday service broadcasts? Was the TV station distorting the signal, and overdubbing something?
I do apologize for not making it clear enough that I was talking about the term “prosperity gospel”, rather than getting into an argument about a particular Pastor or a particular church. I thought the topic was more interesting than arguing over it’s application to a specific instance.
I’d like to think we are discussing the topic, not arguing, but at this point I’m explaining my viewpoint and it appears you are claiming I am wrong but unwilling to explain why you think so, or even to give a hint as to what you think is “right”.
Which is your right of course, and I hardly want to drag you into a discussion you don’t want to have — but you could have made this easier by not saying anything to begin with.
There’s nothing Anti-Christian about the article whatsoever.
This is just another weak thread by one of the anti-Mormon freeper gang.
I don’t like how all of it is worded but again, nothing Anti-Christian about it.
Jim Baaker - Tammy Fay's husband, 30-40 years ago. Praying aloud on TV and you'd think he was still praying but discover this guy didn't end his prayer he just continued it into a plea for, mo money, mo money, crying all the while.
There are plenty of others, noticeably (in my opinion of course) Joyce Meyers, Jimmy Swaggert. A good way I can tell, is to count how many personal jets they have, how many family members are on the payroll and live lavishly.
He’s baaaack.
Mormons lie? Who knew?
New car, better job? I've heard exactly that on TV and radio.
Malachi had it right and it was good law for law abiding Jews. Jesus fulfilled the law and there is no N.T. commandment or directive for Christians to follow any O.T. law except the commandments that were reaffirmed in the new Testament. Tithing wasn't one of them.
As a personal decision, I find Malachi to be a good starting point for my free will giving.
My Pastor doesn't agree with me but cannot point out where I'm wrong. I love him anyway.
I will never give a dime to some prosperity preaching flim flam preacher. He can add to his coffers from somebody elses gullibility.
So true and so well said.
The mormons need to visit this site here to gain more information on their cult.
That way, with all hope, they will break free.
MORMONs always HAVE been!
Well; they 'fell prey' to MORMONism!
What riches they have on THIS earth really ain't gonna fix THAT problem!
Maybe; maybe not...
2 Kings 17:41
Even while these people were worshiping the Lord, they were serving their idols.
To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.
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