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To: allmendream; armordog99
I wonder is there a “God centered” or “Godless” way to teach Literature, Art, the theory of universal gravitation of mass, the history of China?

If you had attended Catholic school from 1st to 10th and godless government schools from 11th to 12th, and Catholic university followed by state university graduate school, you would know that, YES, there is a difference between a godless and God-centered way of teaching the above.

Honestly, when I read a statement like yours above I conclude that there are only three possible explanations for this thinking:

1) It is like a fish in water, those who swim in the godless worldview are incapable of knowing that they are doing it. I think if I told a fish that he was swimming in water he would get mad at me.

2) They are lying. They do fully understand the complaints and arguments of those who object to state sponsored godless schools but deny that they do.

3) They are financially benefiting directly or indirectly from the government temples of godlessness. ( Misnamed "schools").

What I find odd, is that is it rare to find a Freeper that is determined to impose their God-centered worldview on the children of those who are godless. What is seen here on the pages of Free Republic are calls for vouchers, tax credits, charters, and a move toward eventual complete privatization.

Why would the godlss support a system of compulsory funded, compulsory-attendance, state sponsored "schools" than impose godlessness on other people's children? Are they fundamentally bullies?

56 posted on 02/15/2011 5:35:48 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
I do understand your viewpoint, I just don't agree with it. You are presenting an either/or argument otherwise know as the black or white fallacy of argumentation. I assume your are catholic, please correct me if I am wrong. So you believe that the catholic church is the body of christ on this planet. I could reverse your fish argument and use it as equally against you.

Those who swim in the catholicism worldview are incapable of knowing what they are doing. They cannot see that people can disagree on god and the nature of god and because of this the best that government schools can do is have a position of neutrality.

If you are catholic I find it interesting that you would be against neutrality in public schools because for much of the nation's history the protestant majority discriminated against catholics in those schools. This is one of the reasons that there are so many private catholic schools.

You of course have the right to petition the government towards your view and attempt to abolish all government schools. I believe education is primarily the purview of parents. That is one of the reasons I want the federal government out of the education business. This allows more local control of education.

Again I find that vouchers and charter schools take my tax money and provide it to religious schools which makes me support religions I do not agree with. Such as catholicism, islam, and others. Therefore I believe that public schools should be neutral to all religious belief and allow parents to educate their children in religion however they wish. However, I understand in your world view that there is no such thing as neutrality and therefore by not promoting god the are promoting godlessness. You do not want your money going for that. So know we go to the ballot box and see who can get their views inacted as law.

60 posted on 02/15/2011 6:45:16 AM PST by armordog99
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