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Adultery Incorporated The Infidelity Industry
AlbertMohler.com ^ | February 14, 2011 | Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 02/14/2011 12:38:05 PM PST by wmfights

“Monogamy, in my opinion, is a failed experiment.” That is the declaration of Noel Biderman, a Toronto businessman who wants to sell you an adulterous affair. As the current cover story of Bloomberg Businessweek reveals, Mr. Biderman is doing a great deal of business.

The magazine describes AshleyMadison.com as “the premier ‘dating’ website for aspiring adulterers.” Biderman says he came up with the idea after serving as an agent for professional athletes. That job required him to negotiate around the adulterous affairs of his clients. Biderman came to the conclusion that adultery could be big business.

Now, Ashley Madison grosses $60 million in yearly revenue and produces $20 million in annual profits. Biderman himself is making millions of dollars a year, and adultery appears to be a growth industry.

The idea behind Ashley Madison is easy enough to understand. Biderman’s plan was to create a website that would appear to cater to women seeking an adulterous partner, while actually attracting men seeking the women for an adulterous liaison. Clients of the site establish a personal profile, check off their “availability status,” and mark their personal preferences. The real money flows to the site when men connect online with women and then have to pay rather steep fees for the privilege of continuing the conversation. If all goes according to plan, adultery soon follows.

Businessweek’s reporter, Sheelah Kolhatkar, describes Noel Biderman as “a lone genius — possibly evil and certainly entrepreneurial.” He serves as chief executive officer of Avid Life Media, the parent company for Ashley Madison. He is also the married father of two young children. In his office the computer monitor flashes his company’s promotional message: “Life is short. Have an affair.”

Biderman’s wife, Amanda, seems unconcerned about both the business and her husband’s chosen role as the captain of the adultery industry. In a statement of almost complete moral evasion, she says: “Really, the business itself doesn’t match who he is as a person — it’s not our lifestyle or value system or any of that.” Well, here’s a clue: if you conceive, establish, and run the business, it is your value system. When “Life is short. Have an affair.” is your motto, adultery is “who you are as a person,” even if you never have an actual affair.

She went on: “I mean, yeah, I’d love it if he were working on a cure for cancer. But it’s a business, and that’s how we look at it.”

The same could be said for a house of prostitution, of course, and at least some observers suggest that prostitution is basically what Ashley Madison is all about. After all, though almost all of the men registered at the site are married, about 20 percent of the women are not.

Interestingly, since adultery has now been transformed into a major business, certain metrics become available. Reporter Sheelah Kolhatkar explains that 20-40 percent of heterosexual married men and 20-25 percent of heterosexual married women will have an affair during their lifetime. She cites University of New Hampshire economist Bruce Elmslie, who claims that men and women commit adultery at about the same rates until the ages of 35 or 40. After that, women are more reluctant to have an affair, and the men surge on.

Biderman explains that women are most likely to have an affair in the workplace with a “work husband” or with the husband of a friend. Men commit adultery under a far wider range of circumstances. Ashley Madison is “drowning in husbands,” Biderman reports.

Biderman launched the site in 2010, but he founded the company back in 2002. He named it Ashley Madison by combining the two most popular names for baby girls that year. He claims just to be meeting a need and rejects the idea that he is actually expanding the numbers of affairs. Nevertheless, anthropologist Helen Fisher accuses Biderman of “preying on human frailty.”

At least in economic terms, Biderman’s idea is paying handsomely. Ashley Madison has already made him a millionaire several times over. David Evans, publisher of Online Dating Insider, remarked that Biderman and his company “certainly own that cheaters’ market.” He added, “It’s quite lucrative and successful.”

Amazingly enough, Biderman actually complains that his business is the target of discrimination. After all, Fox turned down his proposed Super Bowl commercial. As a matter of fact, Biderman seems to complain rather constantly about the opposition his company engenders. On the other hand, some suspect that he is also fueling the opposition, stirring up his own publicity.

Sheelah Kolhatkar describes the company in these terms:

What Ashley Madison does is legal. It’s also illicit, in that it helps users violate their marriage vows and engage in deception and secrecy. This presents enormous branding challenges as well as financial ones: How many fund managers want to go home to their wives and announce, “Honey, I found the perfect investment opportunity!”

It is hard to imagine how this company and its founder would not face “enormous branding challenges.” With understatement, Kolhatkar expresses the obvious: “He is running a budding empire built on an activity that most people would say is wrong.”

That last statement is revealing in more than one sense. It does seem that most people believe that adultery is wrong. Even so, it is rampant. It seems that many human beings will abandon their moral principles when faced with the opportunity to commit adultery. Ashley Madison exists to create even more of those opportunities.

It undoubtedly says a great deal that Bloomberg Businessweek chose this topic for its Valentine’s Day cover story. Why did they run a cover article on a man who declares, “Monogamy, in my opinion, is a failed experiment”? Does this represent the magazine’s agreement with Mrs. Biderman when she says, “…it’s a business, and that’s how we look at it”?


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
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It undoubtedly says a great deal that Bloomberg Businessweek chose this topic for its Valentine’s Day cover story. Why did they run a cover article on a man who declares, “Monogamy, in my opinion, is a failed experiment”? Does this represent the magazine’s agreement with Mrs. Biderman when she says, “…it’s a business, and that’s how we look at it”?


1 posted on 02/14/2011 12:38:11 PM PST by wmfights
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To: wmfights

Monogamy has only failed because he’s weak so he wants to help others become weak. And is he going to be paying for all the extra abortions, unplanned children and STD’s?


2 posted on 02/14/2011 12:43:43 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: wmfights

I may get thrashed for saying this...but this guy has a special place in Hell for what he’s doing. Utterly disgusting.


3 posted on 02/14/2011 12:50:44 PM PST by hoagy62 (I am a optimistic pessimist. I am positive that the world is going to Hell.)
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To: wmfights

I don’t know anything about this particular enterprise, but online dating sites in general have been accused of hiring fluffers—women who aren’t really interested in anything but play the role to keep the men spending money.

Common sense tells me that if AM was actually facilitating affairs, they’d go broke. No, my money says that they string these suckers along for a very long and very expensive ride.


4 posted on 02/14/2011 12:56:49 PM PST by Melas
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To: wmfights
So basically, these women are prostitutes who don't get any money for their services - it all goes to the pimps.

Got it.

5 posted on 02/14/2011 1:00:25 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: hoagy62
I may get thrashed for saying this...but this guy has a special place in Hell for what he’s doing. Utterly disgusting.

No thrashing here. You're right on the money.

6 posted on 02/14/2011 1:02:19 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: wmfights

Apparently, they are not reading their bibles.
Judgement for the wicked to follow.
Now He has electronic proof.


7 posted on 02/14/2011 1:02:19 PM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: hoagy62

You’re absolutely right. He is also playing with fire in an earthly sense as well. If the wife of one of his clients directs her rage at him, and if she is determined enough, he could well wind up in a bodybag. He is messing with people’s lives on a very deep emotional level and the blowback could be utterly unpredictable and completely merciless.


8 posted on 02/14/2011 1:04:48 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wmfights

Is Bill Clinton on their board of directors yet?


9 posted on 02/14/2011 1:06:14 PM PST by zeohti
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To: wmfights

This is pure evil, woah to those that sin, but worse to those that teach and temp others too


10 posted on 02/14/2011 1:08:00 PM PST by Scythian
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To: wmfights

How do the guys hide the payments for the exhorbitant fees from their wives? From a forensic accounting perspective, that appears to be a fatal flaw in the concept of “secrecy”. After all, it can’t be a cash transaction - there has to be a financial trail created. Even if the cheating husband retains total access and control to all credit card records, it’s all discoverable in litigation.

A man would have to be either totally ignorant, crazy or just that hard-up enough to willingly place such a noose of culpability around his own neck. Makes no sense to me.


11 posted on 02/14/2011 1:10:45 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (At DiDi's Used Guns, if we can't kill it, it's immortal - DiDi Snavely, Proprietor)
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To: wmfights

This industry only exists because people want to cheat, not the other way around.


12 posted on 02/14/2011 1:13:52 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: wmfights
AshleyMadison.com is pure evil. Here is a site used to create adulterous relationships and how did they choose the name? The founder selected the two most popular girl baby names.
13 posted on 02/14/2011 1:14:49 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: wmfights

which means every divorce lawyer will have the subpoena in their forms directory for the phone and ip of the named opposing spouse.


14 posted on 02/14/2011 1:18:07 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Scythian
Adultry leads to divorce. Divorce kills kids - figuratively and, yes, sometimes literally, too.
15 posted on 02/14/2011 1:18:46 PM PST by Dansong
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To: Scythian
Adultery leads to divorce. Divorce kills kids - figuratively and, yes, sometimes literally, too.
16 posted on 02/14/2011 1:18:57 PM PST by Dansong
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To: All

isn’t mentioning the site giving it a higher profile in the search engine hits?

it seems we should not type it correctly in order to diminish its hit points.


17 posted on 02/14/2011 1:20:24 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
which means every divorce lawyer will have the subpoena in their forms directory for the phone and ip of the named opposing spouse.

Is this really a bad thing? If someone cheats on their spouse and the victim of that cheating wants recourse, well whoop-dee-do! There's a nice way to find all of the information the victim would ever need to take the cheater to the cleaners.

18 posted on 02/14/2011 1:22:37 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

They ain’t thinking with their brains


19 posted on 02/14/2011 1:22:37 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: wmfights
She went on: “I mean, yeah, I’d love it if he were working on a cure for cancer. But it’s a business, and that’s how we look at it.”

What a lovely pair or moral role models their kids have.

20 posted on 02/14/2011 1:27:26 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: hoagy62
I may get thrashed for saying this...but this guy has a special place in Hell for what he’s doing. Utterly disgusting.

Who would thrash you for this? The cliche of "I can do whatever I want as long as I don't hurt anyone" is the slogan for those unable to face their own failings.

He may indeed provide the service in question, but there is deception on so many levels, not only with his own company's image and services, but also inducing deception on the part of AM's "customers" - that there can be no good to come from this.

21 posted on 02/14/2011 1:28:56 PM PST by PGR88
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To: chesley

In a nutshell - exactly!


22 posted on 02/14/2011 1:31:16 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (At DiDi's Used Guns, if we can't kill it, it's immortal - DiDi Snavely, Proprietor)
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To: longtermmemmory

No. The only real way to improve your search engine standing is to pay for it. Businesses pay out the wazoo for search engine standings. Google is also very good at parsing. You can misspell a popularly searched site like AM to hell and back, and it will automatically provide you with the correct search results.


23 posted on 02/14/2011 1:48:20 PM PST by Melas
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Here’s something that most folks don’t know. Fidelity rarely figures into a divorce. You don’t get more stuff because your spouse was unfaithful, and they don’t get more of your stuff if you were unfaithful. If custody isn’t disputed, you don’t even have to physically appear in court most states. Everything else is done by the numbers.


24 posted on 02/14/2011 1:54:29 PM PST by Melas
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To: wmfights

I wonder if the wife of the Mafia hitman up the corner from where I grew up would ever say, “It’s a business.”

What a crazy attitude some people have! It never fails to amaze me. Even though I grew up in a rough neighborhood I took certain standards of morals and ethics for granted. IT AIN’T EVER FOR GRANTED!

Never take the standards of morality, ethics, modesty and decency for granted. They have to be worked on all the time, re-inforced, taught, celebrated, protected.

This “business” will be taken down in time, I’d hope. Some big dog Divorce Lawyer representing one or a class of complaintants will take everything the happy “Adultery Inducing” business couple have.


25 posted on 02/14/2011 2:01:16 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

I’m telling you, it’s a fraud. If AM were really hooking people up it would go broke. You’d sign in, pay your monies get phone numbers, and never need AM again. Instead, you pays your monies, you talk to the fake girls who flirt and tease, but just don’t know you well enough to give you their number yet, and will no doubt become “involved” with some other member by the time she does know you well enough. So, you pays more monies and repeat until you’re broke.

In the space of an hour, I’ve already seen that AM owns half the sites that supposedly review the service. This isn’t about adultery, it’s one big con game. Possibly even more evil, they’re preying on lonely and/or frustrated men.


26 posted on 02/14/2011 2:07:57 PM PST by Melas
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To: wmfights

I think adultery has failed.

It brings heartache, sexual disease, abuse, and children who, if they survive, are handicapped by the absence of a proper family.

What does “failure” mean to this man?


27 posted on 02/14/2011 2:18:12 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Melas
You've made two posts on this thread, and nailed it with both of them.
28 posted on 02/14/2011 2:18:35 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Melas
Common sense tells me that if AM was actually facilitating affairs, they’d go broke. No, my money says that they string these suckers along for a very long and very expensive ride.

He probably also has sharp lawyers, ready to pull out the legal doctrines about contracts to commit acts that violate law or public policy (hint: the words "not worth the paper they're printed on" figure prominently) and explain to any dissatisfied customers that they've forked over their money for nothing and there ain't a damn thing they can do about it.

29 posted on 02/14/2011 2:26:38 PM PST by zeohti
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To: Richard Kimball

Thank you. I’m starting to really see how it works though. So far, you’re the only person who sees the fraud here. Everyone is in anguish over the adultery, and I suspect there is very little actual adultery happening because of this website.


30 posted on 02/14/2011 2:36:16 PM PST by Melas
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What can I say? Love, fidelity, commitment, trust, loyalty - these all mean nothing to the owners and users of this enterprise. As you sow, so shall you reap - it's the immutable law of karma. And promoting evil earns the same reward as practicing it yourself.

31 posted on 02/14/2011 2:36:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Melas
That's your guess based on life-wisdom, or is it based on more detailed knowledge of the specific business? The nut lead of the article is this:
current cover story of Bloomberg Businessweek ... describes AshleyMadison.com as “the premier ‘dating’ website for aspiring adulterers.” ... grosses $60 million in yearly revenue and produces $20 million in annual profits.
Yeah, it could be what you say. I agree with the theory, but the article is a cover story in a reputable business magazine -- you might want to buff up your claim a bit, evidence-standards-wise.
32 posted on 02/14/2011 2:37:40 PM PST by bvw
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To: zeohti

Oh you know it. I’ve done more checking and I’m more convinced than ever that I’m correct. It costs X dollars to see a profile, X dollars to send an email, X dollars to receive an email, X dollars to chat with the potential mistress. Potential mistress of course being the woman who’s being paid to string the sucker along to spend dollar after dollar on emails and chat by the minute. Poor bastards are too stupid to realize that if the woman on the other end was real, she’d save herself some cash too and just make phone contact.


33 posted on 02/14/2011 2:41:53 PM PST by Melas
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To: little jeremiah

Our society has a few problems.


34 posted on 02/14/2011 2:47:30 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wmfights
“Really, the business itself doesn’t match who he is as a person..."

I guess she hasn't considered the possibility of him being good enough to keep his affairs secret. After all, he is good enough at that to make is a multi-million dollar business.

35 posted on 02/14/2011 2:51:45 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Melas

INO, adultery is almost always a product of the workplace.


36 posted on 02/14/2011 2:54:27 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: pnh102
to take the cheater to the cleaners.

It doesn't work that way. 90% of the time, no matter which spouse cheats, the wife walks away with the house, the kids, and a big monthly check.

Take my word for it.

37 posted on 02/14/2011 2:57:28 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: 5thGenTexan

I hope he has a good legal department. ANYONE who uses that service is subject to the discovery rules. Private investigators probably have an entrapment field day.

Remember, toll pass records are used in divorce cases now as sop.

This website is just an internet version of the no-tell motel only with less security.


38 posted on 02/14/2011 2:59:45 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hoagy62

You are spot on.


39 posted on 02/14/2011 3:29:13 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Melas
What do you make of this tidbit: "grosses $60 million in yearly revenue and produces $20 million in annual profits."

That's VERY high overhead costs for a web site like this purports to be. Maybe Bloomberg's division needs to add some basic business analysts?

40 posted on 02/14/2011 3:29:13 PM PST by bvw
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
A man would have to be either totally ignorant, crazy or just that hard-up enough to willingly place such a noose of culpability around his own neck.


41 posted on 02/14/2011 3:32:44 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: bvw

Both. My initial reaction was based on a couple of scandals that shut down some of Match.com’s competitors several years back, ie paid female employees posing as potential dates. Then just a couple hours worth of research turned up similarities to striking to ignore:

Pay to contact
Pay to receive messages
Pay to chat
Pay to send virtual baubles
Pay to send flirts (whatever those are)
Pay to see who sent you a flirt
Pay to send winks
Pay to see who winked at you

Then AM takes it a step further by owning/running pseudo sites like ashleymadisonscam.net. that leads the searcher into believing he’s reading third party information, but it’s really a commercial for AM.

Same for Ashleymadison.org, ashleymadisonsucks.com, ashleymadisonreviews.net, ashleymadisoncheating.com, ashleymadisonsucks.info, etc etc.

All use varying methods of deception, from guys who said the site doesn’t work, only to find out they still had credits and SCORE...to wives lamenting that they lost their husbands to AM...and just when you’re ready to shed that tear tell you how they got themselves back into shape and now they’re looking for hot married guys on AM too.

In short, they bought the first 6 or so search engine pages to keep the poor saps from uncovering the truth. I had to search with some legalese to find the following disclaimer which exists as their legal protection against fraud. It also confirms my theory my satisfaction.

From time to time this service may include, offer, or initiate winks, collect messages or instant chat from Market Researchers (Online Hosts) simulating attached or single men or women. These efforts are conducted for market research and/or customer experience and/or quality control and/or compliance purposes.

So, they’re admitting it in the fine print hoping that no one will ever notice.


42 posted on 02/14/2011 3:41:43 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas; Jim Robinson; kristinn

I think Melas just proved why Freepers are smarter and better investigative reporters than professional journalists!

Great job, Melas!


43 posted on 02/14/2011 3:47:19 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Couldn’t be that it costs a lot of money to pay the gals who’re baiting the guys to spend more on the service could it?


44 posted on 02/14/2011 4:04:56 PM PST by Melas
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To: bvw

Thank you. I admit it, I work in the bicycle industry, so I have nothing but time to kill in February.


45 posted on 02/14/2011 4:09:30 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

That makes sense, phonebanks and billing services too. Also, I’m assuming “upstreams”.


46 posted on 02/14/2011 4:10:48 PM PST by bvw
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To: buccaneer81

Explain. I would have thought bars would be a far more likely place. At least that’s where the affairs I’ve actually heard about in real life started.


47 posted on 02/14/2011 4:39:58 PM PST by Melas
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To: bvw

safe assumption.


48 posted on 02/14/2011 4:41:49 PM PST by Melas
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To: zeohti
Is Bill Clinton on their board of directors yet?

LMAO and thinking he's there for the employee discount.

49 posted on 02/14/2011 4:43:29 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Melas

I don’t know anything about this particular enterprise, but online dating sites in general have been accused of hiring fluffers—women who aren’t really interested in anything but play the role to keep the men spending money.

Common sense tells me that if AM was actually facilitating affairs, they’d go broke. No, my money says that they string these suckers along for a very long and very expensive ride.

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This seems like high rolling idiocy for people who not only want to cheat, but want to do so while living on the edge.


50 posted on 02/14/2011 4:44:09 PM PST by Luke21
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