Posted on 02/15/2011 10:31:34 AM PST by grace522
“As a human, a parent, and yes, a faithful Catholic, I implore the Church, for God’s sake, to end the preying, and start the praying. After all, it’s the most Catholic thing to do.”
For some reason, I have to wonder if this guys is a “faithful Catholic”, as he claims.
LOL, please.
Not everything ecclesiastic people do belongs in religion.
The article was posted where it properly belongs.
John Paul II took the actions he took. At this point the documentation is pouring out. He did some wonderful things, but also some horribly deplorable things which can not be excused or sanitized.
At this point, the catholic church can not separate the good things from the man who ordered that information of sexual crimes against children not be reported to Government authorities, and also did not make things right for all the victims.
That Legacy can not be hidden at this point.
The same man that helped free Poland from the Soviet Block did an awful, awful thing.
“but also some horribly deplorable things which can not be excused or sanitized.”
Please show the credible links that support your charge that he did “horribly deplorable things”.
What is their definition of an “Iccident”?
What is that graph’s definition of an “Incident”?
The books that Luther stripped from the Bible, Books and Scripture that were present, in the Jewish Temples, at the time of Jesus, the Books of Maccabees, clearly did support the practice of praying for the dead, as well as the practice of asking the dead to pray for the living.
What has the Apocrypha to do with glorifying God or Jesus? When the Bible was put together it incorporated just those books. Why pray for the dead? One verse from Maccabees about praying for the dead gave the Roman Catholic Church Purgatory. Why bother to repent of our sins in this life and have Purgatory to endure in the next? Did Jesus save us? Has baptism saved us? If not then what was Jesus’ sacrifice for us worth? He died in vain if we have to endure this Purgatory. And if we were to pray for those in Purgatory, how much more are our prayers worth than those in torment? We’d wind up there too.
So, in your book, the man who lives a horrible life but then repents before death goes to Heaven.
However, the man who lives a very good life, for most of his time on Earth, but then dies while in the act of sin, that man goes to Hell with no recourse?
My God is more just and fair, than that.
Ah, Nope. Didn’t say that. What is sin? What does the word actually mean? I didn’t say that the man who sins before death goes to Hell without recourse. In the Roman Catholic Church Hell is different from Purgatory. You have a chance of getting out of Purgatory with the prayers of the living according to Maccabees. I’m saying that it’s the Grace of God and your belief in Jesus that saves you. Think of the parable of the vineyard workers. The wages are the same regardless of what time you showed up for work.
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