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To: Houghton M.

Look at the pictures if you have the Ruffin book. It shows the shoulder wound on one of the pictures of the undershirt.


25 posted on 02/20/2011 6:51:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

That’s not what Artemis Ward and I are questioning.

I am questioning:

1. that PP said the shoulder wound hurt the most (which Rega breathlessly reports as hitherto unknown)
2. That this hitherto unknown fact was transmitted by JPII who heard it from PP.

That PP had a shoulder wound is not new. But whether it represents a scourging wound (as the sources I’ve seen say) or abrasion from the cross, is disputed. Rega’s JPII story says it’s from the cross. Do you have credible evidence from Ruffin to support that claim? Or is Rega (and behind him, JPII) the only source for this?

If the latter is the case, then it’s suspect because it just oh so neatly matches a Bernard of Clairvaux vision, which is the sort of thing a legend-creator would latch on to to modify the scourging wound into something new and unique and then breathlessly retail.

Finally, one of PP’s close associates (Fr. Joseph Martin) said explicitly that PP never said anything one way or the other about which wound hurt most.

The story is dubious until someone can offer some corroborating evidence. Do you have any? If Ruffin does, fine, I’ll drop my case.


26 posted on 02/20/2011 6:58:56 PM PST by Houghton M.
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