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Abuse of Caucus [whiner's caucus]
Self | 22 Feb 2011 | Natural Law

Posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:04 PM PST by Natural Law

An alarming trend is developing in the Free Republic Religion Forum in which a caucus identifier is being claimed for non-existent or impossibly defined groups. With the caucuses being self defined we see nonsense like the Sola Scriptura Caucus. Of course it doesn’t mean all Scripture, only the thread initiators or Forum Moderators definition of Scripture. Jews who believe in the Scripture of the Old Testament are excluded. Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses are excluded even though they believe in the sufficiency of their own versions of Scripture. The not so transparent purpose of these faux caucuses is clearly to exclude a group of FReepers in a modern day repetition of “Whites Only” and “Irish Need Not Apply” prejudice. If this is allowed to stand what will we see next; caucuses so narrowly defined so as to only include one’s bridge club or to exclude an individual FReeper? How about a caucus designation for everyone but citizens from New York? How about a men’s only caucus? How about a caucus for those of us who drive BMWs? And what is being discussed in these faux caucus threads? Critical doctrinal issues such as ruggedized aircraft, home schooling, and civil unrest in Egypt. Give me a break!


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: caucusaddedbyjr; caucusthreads; religionforum; religionforumghetto; whiner; whinercaucus; whinerscaucus
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1 posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:05 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Cronos; kosta50; Kolokotronis; wagglebee; Natural Law; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ...

ping


2 posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:38 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Let the heretics rant among themselves.

So long as folks caucusing among themselves do not attack others ... let them.

3 posted on 02/22/2011 2:57:50 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Natural Law

You drive a BMW? You’re hereby excluded from the “Government Motors Caucus.”


4 posted on 02/22/2011 2:57:52 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Natural Law

There are two amazing, cutting edge features you should try out. One is the IGn 0 RE function. With IGn 0 RE, you can block out threads you don’t like by implementing the CHOOSE button in your mind. Simply CHOOSE to use IGn 0 RE and you won’t have to worry again about those threads.

The other amazing, super-duper, cutting edge feature you should try is the POST feature. With this feature, you are free to POST a thread of the topic you want to discuss, in a way you want to discuss it.

I know, both of those features may be new to you, but I suggest trying the IGn 0 RE feature first.


5 posted on 02/22/2011 2:58:50 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Natural Law

You should spend some time trolling around on an Apple Fanboi thread. It’ll toughen you up so you can tolerate this comparatively gentle hardball.

Srsly. :-)


6 posted on 02/22/2011 2:59:20 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Natural Law

I think the phrase “sola scriptura” does have an historical meaning, though.

If you are going to let people define themselves, they aren’t always going to please everybody with their definitions.

For instance, on the Roman Catholic side, someone might call themselves “the only true church” caucus. Actually for all I know, someone does. I wouldn’t like it, but that is how they view themselves.


7 posted on 02/22/2011 3:08:17 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Natural Law; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Y’all have about as much grounds for wailing and whining about

ANY

HINT

of a purported, claimed, fantasized

“abuse”

of the caucus designation

as . . .

a fish has to complain about water;

a bird has to complain about flying;

an RC has to complain about being a cultist;

a demon has to complain about being evil;

. . .


Y’all have been trashing caucus threads that are clearly not yours increasingly every chance you get.

Yet if a Proddy so much as drives by and LOOKs at your caucus threads dozens of RC’s will sit on the abuse button.

What rank outrageous hypocrites.

SHAMELESS, brazen hypocrites even. Ghastly.

HINT: God almighty is not amused.

Regardless of what the RM or JR do or don’t do . . .

GOD WILL HAVE HIS OWN RESPONSE IN HIS TIME.


8 posted on 02/22/2011 3:10:19 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mnehring

Excellent idea.

Of course, THEN

they wouldn’t have so many things to

wail, whine, rant, spew, throw dust about . . .

They might actually have to act older than 2 years old!

What a tragedy!


9 posted on 02/22/2011 3:12:10 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson
Was the addition of [whiners caucus] a deliberate act of antagonism or simply an act of passive aggression by a moderator?

Either way, let it ride. Posting a legitimate observation does not reflect badly on me in any way. It merely shows the depths to which the Forum and its administration has sunken.

10 posted on 02/22/2011 3:14:57 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Quix
GOD WILL HAVE HIS OWN RESPONSE IN HIS TIME.

Amen Brother, well said.

Why is it that the RC's can't just leave a Caucus thread alone. If a thread doesn't discuss their church why should they care. If they like the topic post an open thread on it. It's sad and speaks volumes to who they are.

11 posted on 02/22/2011 3:15:47 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Natural Law

Jim added it.


12 posted on 02/22/2011 3:15:47 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Natural Law
Well, when some people can't stand the heat they build their own kitchen. I think it's a grand idea. It shows that the way some folks interpret Scripture depends on incestuous reinforcement and things like the Caucus system to protect that interpretation from the slings and arrows of Scripture based questions.

Arrogant Bustard hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. If there is any reason to have legitimate debate on some topic do it in a way that doesn't permit screens full of blinking crap and individuals regularly posting photos of their forebears. Otherwise let them simmer in their own stew. They'll be having their own knock down, drag out, battles soon enough and fragment even further. That's the history and lineage they are from and the Holy Spirit can show their perpetual fragmentation here as He has throughout history. What better testament to the one true Church is there?

Regards

13 posted on 02/22/2011 3:16:03 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: wmfights

“Why is it that the RC’s can’t just leave a Caucus thread alone.”

The Pope owns all your bases.


14 posted on 02/22/2011 3:18:27 PM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Natural Law

I don’t have a problem with most of those. Though I agree it is hard to pin down just what makes a thread a caucus.


15 posted on 02/22/2011 3:20:25 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Natural Law

It was I, Ensign Palmer. Now what’s this about no movie?


16 posted on 02/22/2011 3:20:34 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Natural Law; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

I’d call it

TRUTH IN ADVERTISING

or

TRUTH IN WHINING [or about as close to truth as such whiners get]

or

TRUTH IN SPEWING

or

TRUTH IN WAILING . .

or

TRUTH FOR 2 YEAR OLDS


17 posted on 02/22/2011 3:21:47 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wmfights

The only Sola Scriptura Caucus this Catholic has ever questioned was the one on homeschooling. Otherwise I have respected your designations.


18 posted on 02/22/2011 3:22:44 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: wmfights

Why is it that the RC’s can’t just leave a Caucus thread alone. If a thread doesn’t discuss their church why should they care. If they like the topic post an open thread on it. It’s sad and speaks volumes to who they are.


That would be the sane, rational, civil, Christian route.

However,

THEN they wouldn’t be able to spew, wail, whine, rant, rave, throw dust in the air

!!!CONTROL!!!

!!!DEMAND!!!

etc. etc. etc.

I think it must be part of the genetics of their dogma or dogma of their genetics or something. Sure seems very indemic to the organization, anyway.


19 posted on 02/22/2011 3:24:46 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mister Roberts - great movie.


20 posted on 02/22/2011 3:27:06 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Natural Law; ArrogantBustard; Rashputin

I agree with ArrogantBustard and Rashputin, but I’m just a newbie.


21 posted on 02/22/2011 3:27:35 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: Rashputin; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Perhaps you could explain to curious Proddys . . .

HOW IS IT

that RC’s love the caucus system

FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES FIERCELY GUARDED AND DEFENTED TO THE NTH DEGREE

yet when Proddys begin to take more advantage of the same system

the RC’s

ABSOLUTELY CAN’T STAND IT????

. . . come unglued in even GREATER THAN USUAL

—whining
—wailing
—!!!!DEMANDING!!!! that FR conform to THEIR special 2 year old sensibilities . . .

What’s WITH that?


22 posted on 02/22/2011 3:27:35 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: the_conscience
The Pope owns all your bases.

LOL

It's so sad, they wanted the Caucuses so Born Again Christians wouldn't bother them. I then post Caucuses for the diverse group of Christians that are a part of the Body of Christ and they can't stand it.

None of the threads I posted mentioned their church and yet they come crashing in "calling the shots". I don't believe I've crashed any of their Caucus threads why is it so hard to respect someone else.

23 posted on 02/22/2011 3:27:46 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Doc, he lies in his sack all day long, bores me silly with great, moronic plots against the captain. He’s never carried out one of them.”


24 posted on 02/22/2011 3:30:12 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Quix

you forgot the family photos and blinking text


25 posted on 02/22/2011 3:30:33 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: Jim Robinson
Photobucket


THANKS
for the healing robust gufaws, Boss.

26 posted on 02/22/2011 3:31:24 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wmfights

I’m still looking for the perfect article for my new “Popery-Free” caucus.


27 posted on 02/22/2011 3:31:41 PM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: lastchance
The only Sola Scriptura Caucus this Catholic has ever questioned was the one on homeschooling. Otherwise I have respected your designations.

That's not true and even if it were true why does it matter so much to RC's? The thread doesn't mention your church. The thread is on a subject where the vast majority of people affected are Evangelical Christians and the central point to the thread was they are under attack because the majority of home schooled children have a solid Biblical world view.

If it's a topic you want to discuss post an article.

Again, if I see a Caucus designation I leave it alone. Why can't RC's?

28 posted on 02/22/2011 3:34:08 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Rashputin

Ahhhhhhhhh wellll

a non-answer is a screaming enough answer.

Just remember when y’all lie down at night . . .

the bloke on the inside of y’all’s eyelids is the bloke that will be facing God without a shred of defense or covering. . .

unless it’s the Blood of Jesus.


29 posted on 02/22/2011 3:36:09 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
!!!CONTROL!!!

I think you are spot on. They can't just leave it alone. They have to be in control.

30 posted on 02/22/2011 3:36:13 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Natural Law
Someone needs to start a Catholic Caucus thread on Sola Scriptura so more people will be equipped to recognize the false arguments and frequent out of context points such folks make.

Regards

31 posted on 02/22/2011 3:37:21 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: wmfights

I’ve reluctantly been forced

BY RC’S ON FR

to the conclusion that the old claims about

THE VATICAN AND !!!!CONTROL!!!!

are quite accurate.

And, that level of control invariably is demonic.

Some have traced it back to the Tower of Babel.


32 posted on 02/22/2011 3:37:47 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: delacoert

Great movie indeed.

Incredible sense of exhultation when the blinking palm tree goes overboard.


33 posted on 02/22/2011 3:39:08 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Rashputin
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34 posted on 02/22/2011 3:40:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Jim Robinson; Religion Moderator; sneakers; Colleen Hammond; annalex; dsc; mockingbyrd; BlackElk; ..
Just eliminate the Religion Forum altogether. It was a bad idea in the first place, and it has arrived at the place where it was always destined to anyhow.

To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Jim Robinson
You're gonna get the religion forum closed down if you don't stop with this crap, JR has said hes about had enough of it, if you think this thread is gonna help....you will see what I mean very shortly.

Good. The infighting on these threads only discredits Christianity as a whole, making all Christians a laughing stock.

Jim,

Do us all a favor.

Shut down the Religion Forum Ghetto.

39 posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:16:36 AM by Polycarp

What was true 8 years ago, is even more true, and obviously so, today.

35 posted on 02/22/2011 3:42:18 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Natural Law

Out of 35 posts, 10 were made by one person. Amazing.


36 posted on 02/22/2011 3:43:43 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: the_conscience; wmfights

Omnes bases vostri are belong nobis. [There is no Latin adequate to “are belong.”]

Of course, I remember a few years ago non-Catholics swarmed a Catholic Caucus thread. Nothing was done for a few hundred posts and then the Caucus designation was pulled.

Put not your trust in princes.(ps 143 KJV)


37 posted on 02/22/2011 3:47:43 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Quix

Any bets that a single person under 40 gets that reference?


38 posted on 02/22/2011 3:47:58 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: wmfights

The RM made the decision. I only asked why and stated why I thought it was non caucus. I honestly don’t recall any other time I have questioned one of the SS caucuses. I’ll gladly stand corrected.


39 posted on 02/22/2011 3:48:19 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Natural Law

I love it. And I very much like the addition of “whiner’s caucus.”


40 posted on 02/22/2011 3:48:25 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Not on FR! Maybe a few.

I knew immediately what movie it came from.

Such a classic.


41 posted on 02/22/2011 3:49:45 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

My whole family loves that movie. When my kids first saw it they were in stitches at that scene.


42 posted on 02/22/2011 3:50:08 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance
The RM made the decision. I only asked why and stated why I thought it was non caucus. I honestly don’t recall any other time I have questioned one of the SS caucuses. I’ll gladly stand corrected.

Just couldn't leave something not involving your church alone.

43 posted on 02/22/2011 3:50:16 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Pan_Yan

BTW, how’s your family?


44 posted on 02/22/2011 3:50:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Forced?

More Christian charity towards those who are lost? It's a weak sip of Christ if even a sip that drives people to a desire to create enemies and drive others away from Christ to fulfill their own need to feel as though they're a good and put upon witness for Him.

Somehow the entire idea of witnessing seems to have gone out the window for many people who immediately respond to any question with snark or an assault on the questioner. I suppose some people think no question is ever an honest seeking for an answer because they are never honestly seeking to answer a question but rather seeking to show their own knowledge or prove their own righteousness.

have a nice day

45 posted on 02/22/2011 3:51:21 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: Natural Law


46 posted on 02/22/2011 3:51:41 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

I’m well under 40 and that reference went so far over my head, it waived hello to the International Space Station.


47 posted on 02/22/2011 3:52:11 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Quix

You were one of many who, a few years ago, invaded and overran a thread which was originally a Catholic Caucus thread. After a few hundred posts and appeals to the RM the Caucus designation was removed.

Catholics MAY have done that before, but that was the day I learned that if one side ignores the Caucus designation and swarms, they can cause the designation to be removed.

Some things I learn quickly and do not forget.


48 posted on 02/22/2011 3:52:15 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Natural Law
It would seem to me a "Sola Scriptura Caucus" is not without merit. It would pertain to a good many Protestants (not all) that believes we go by scripture only. Hence, if the scriptures state something, it would be against caucus rules to say Pastor XXX "thinks..." or Father So-n-So "believes..." One may introduce a commentary view of the passage in question but only if it help further the interpretation. There are a good many passages of scriptures worth exploring without interjecting individual view points.

And one might ask what is wrong with a "White" caucus when we have a "Black" caucus. Of course, that is the conservative coming out in me.

Now all that being said, I guess I'm violating this caucus as I'm not whining. Or perhaps I just did. ;O)

49 posted on 02/22/2011 3:52:24 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Mad Dawg

The Latin definitely makes it more binding.

Thank you for contributing to the whiners caucus.


50 posted on 02/22/2011 3:53:03 PM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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