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Posted on 02/24/2011 10:25:08 AM PST by hope_dies_last
For the Coming of the King
"Yet a little while, and He that shall come will come, and will not tarry." Hebrews 10:37.
The Last Crisis
We are living in the time of the end. The fast-fulfilling signs of the times declare that the coming of Christ is near at hand. The days in which we live are solemn and important... The calamities by land and sea, the unsettled state of society, the alarms of war, are portentous. They forecast approaching events of the greatest magnitude.
The agencies of evil are combining their forces and consolidating. They are strengthening for the last great crisis. Great changes are soon to take place in our world, and the final movements will be rapid ones.
The condition of things in the world shows that troublous times are right upon us. The daily papers are full of indications of a terrible conflict in the near future. Bold robberies are of frequent occurrence. Strikes are common. Thefts and murders are committed on every hand. Men possessed of demons are taking the lives of men, women, and little children. Men have become infatuated with vice, and every species of evil prevails.
The enemy (of souls) has succeeded in perverting justice and in filling men's hearts with the desire for selfish gain.
Maranatha! Lo, come quickly Lord.
Be careful of the source, Ellen G White is a false prophet, and founder of the seventh day adventist church-
Like a thief in the night.
Foolish to think you know the answer when God says that no human will know.
Every predictor of the end times has had one thing in common. They were, so far, all completely wrong! Thus false prophets.
But I guess if you stand on a corner in Arizona and scream that it is going to rain you will EVENTUALLY be correct.
But you will get sunstroke long before you get your feet wet.
I’d trust the Mayan calendar more than White. And that’s a pretty low bar.
It’s also foolish not believe Jesus will return soon.
No man can no the day or the hour, not even the angels in Heaven, but you can test the times to know the hour is short.
Don’t you see what is happening in the world today and how events are accelerating and an ever rapid pace?
Yes, there have been false prophets before and there will be more and the deception will also grow, to “deceive even the very elect” Jesus said. He also predicted that my FReind.
Yes, and the hour has been short, according to the less balanced and less reputable, for well over a thousand years now!
Eventually you will be correct, screaming out that it is going to rain in Arizona, but for most the time you are just going to look the fool.
I stand on the Word of God, the Bible.
Can you please point out what is not accurate about the statement I just posted?
Is it not viable to use something written to make a point, not create a doctrine of it or ruffle feathers, but gain a common ground in beholding what is going on in the World today?
Sounds like ex-SDA.
It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man. Psalm 118:8
This was written in 1909? Time flies.
Yes, and it is the LORD who says that the day will come like a thief in the night.
It is a man, and a false prophet, who tells you he knows the hour and knows the time will be here in our lifetime.
I trust in the LORD. You, apparently, trust a false prophet.
[ Id trust the Mayan calendar more than White. And thats a pretty low bar. ]
I am more inclined to beleive the Mayan Calendar, not because I think the Mayans were prophets but because of the fools out there today who are all to willing to make it a “self fulfilling prophecy” when 2012 rolls around.
[ Id trust the Mayan calendar more than White. And thats a pretty low bar. ]
I am more inclined to beleive the Mayan Calendar, not because I think the Mayans were prophets but because of the fools out there today who are all to willing to make it a self fulfilling prophecy when 2012 rolls around.
Forgot to add that this is why the 12’ers in Iran are so dangerous as well....
2000 was taken much more seriously by many more people than 2012 as being a date when the world would end.
There was even a plausible material cause of trouble, that being the 2k “bug”.
>>Sounds like ex-SDA.<<
No, but close. My father was raised SDA and now follows a Canadian “E.G. White purists” group that believes the most apostate of all churches in the end times will be the “official” SDA.
I disagree with pretty much nothing in the OP. However, it is the type of stuff that one could agree with pretty much at any time - even when the words were first penned. Heck, look at my tag line.
My comment was about White, not any specific thing she said. I know it’s a tired analogy, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day. And even Joseph Smith and Mohammad got a couple of things right.
Good one! :)
>>2000 was taken much more seriously by many more people than 2012 as being a date when the world would end.
There was even a plausible material cause of trouble, that being the 2k bug.<<
Yep. It was a tangible and quantifiable problem. And we fixed it. I was a Y2k code remediator. If we had done nothing it would have been catastrophic.
At least post someone who has recently been dead wrong or try you own hand at something new like, "Armageddon Antepasto And Other Ten Minute Sermons" or maybe, "Babes Begging For The Rocks To Fall". You need to sell the sizzle to get in on the royalty and speaking fee stream. Not everyone can slide from 1988, to 2007, and now well past 2050 like the old pros at the Bestselling Rapture Doctrine have managed to. Now they're even starting to have little internal battles and toss one another out of various little clubs.
-- Matthew Chapter 16, verse 28.
This was approx. a week before the Crucifixion. Christ's purpose was to give hope to His followers, who would feel abandoned after His death. In doing so, he gave an approx. timeframe for his return: the human lifespan.
Notice, He didn't say "Almost all of you standing here," or even "Most of you standing here," but rather only "some standing here." In other words: Not all standing there would still be alive to witness his coming in "the glory," etc.; rather, some will have died. But some will not have died. His listeners could thus console themselves that the wait would not be excessively long.
It thus follows that, when Christ comes in "the glory of His Father with His angels" and He "rewards every man according to his works," some of those who were standing there in His presence on that day a week before the Crucifixion shall not yet have tasted of Death.
And since He has not yet come in "the glory of His Father with His angels," etc., we can safety assume that some of Christ's listeners are still alive today, approx. 2,000 years later.
It says man will not know the hour or the day....What about the year?
As for signs, I sure see what looks like a lot of signs. The one thing that always amazes me is how did someone 2,000 years ago know that we’d all need a number (credit card, DL, SS, etc.) to buy and sell. For that matter, who would have thought it a hundred years ago.
How many times have I heard that before? We're still here.
1. He said like a thief in the night.
2. There is no way we would know it.
3. It was said during WWI, the depression, WWI and such.
4. You would be surprised at how quickly things cna change and yes, I know it means for the worse as well as for the good.
Actually, God said “no man shall know the hour, not even the Son”. Essentially man can know the season, just study a bit. The problem with everyones prediction is, they try and tell the day or year. God has his own time, and it will be when all of his Word is fulfilled. Before Israel was replanted in Jerusalem and the Holy land, it could not happen. Before mass media, it could not happen. Before a One World system comes into being, is wounded unto death, then resurrected, it cannot happen. Just wait........pray and watch.
Since this was written over 100 years ago and Ellen G. White is long dead, apparently the end wasn’t *that* close when she wrote this.
Not a "number" - a "sign," i.e., a mark (like a tatoo or brand).
In Biblical times, livestock was frequently so marked. Even slaves could have been so marked. So, it's not a stretch to imagine ordinary freemen, too, being routinely marked in such a way.
So, I think you are also inclined to use this rule regarding scripture? Are only your contemporaries relevant?
I’ve never heard of Ellen White.
I do know the Bible says this:
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5.
Note the “But”....
I hear what you’re saying... only time will tell.
Oh my God.
You guys are all going to die.
As for myself, I intend to go camping.
What does relevance have to do with it? I take time references like "soon" as applying to the time frame indicated by the text.
>>...only time will tell.<<
HA! That’s my line!
FWIW, I think we are either on the heels of the 70th week of Daniel and possibly approaching Ezekiel 39, or this will be like WWI and WWII. That is, very bad (worse, actually) but not the end.
I really hope it is the former. But, as you say, time will tell.
BTW, in case you are not aware of how seriously I take this, I bought a ~13 acre farm with a new house on it in central KY two weeks before Obama was elected. I live in Seattle but started looking for permanent employment in Kentucky in earnest late last year. We moved all of our stuff out there last summer. Yes, we can be 100% self sufficient on that property.
I take this very seriously. Again, see my tag line.
In 1 Thessalonians 5, Paul writes, “ 1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, Peace and safety! then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. 8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.”
You are quite right, and we are held responsible for knowing the season of His return for us and to be looking for Him as His Bride. Jesus, in the Olivet Discourse (Matt 24/25, Mark 13, Luke 21) tells us that we should be watching for Him and expecting Him. He is not a thief to us; we know He is coming and are waiting for Him with great expectation and desire to see Him. I highly encourage you to read all three of those accounts of the Olivet Discourse to get every detail. There are some who feel that Jesus was not speaking to the Church here in the discourse, but there would be no way to resolve His comments about the days of Noah and Lot being within the Tribulation because nothing will be normal then, especially not when He sets His foot down on the Mount of Olives.
All the more need tat that we all buy, read and pass on to unbelievers, Bill Weise’s book, “23 Minutes in Hell”, and the testimony of a young boy who had a near death experience, “Heaven is for Real”. Both of these books are available to us through God’s own revelation. We are blessed to have tangible evidence, based firmly on scripture to help bring in His flock while there is still time.
This part here, “For when they say, Peace and safety! then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman.”, is one of the verses that causes me to look for a SERIOUS ‘eye of the storm” moment. It may even be speaking of the AntiChrist who solves what people believe to be a very serious and unsolvable problem. I dunno. What I do know is what the Bible says about the end and it is like trying to explain “red” to a man that only sees in gray-scale.
Still, it seems to give us pretty clear instruction. I have gotten to the point, on a daily basis, where I scour the internet (mostly freerepublic) looking for what could be the clue that “this is it”. Yesterday I was even looking into the failure of some South Korean banks as the possible Canary in the coal mine. And it is not lost on me that problems are simply not going away - e.g. Iceland is back in the news.
I have said the the whole world right now is in a repeat of August of 1939, and September is a comin’.
This woman was a fraud and plagiarist.
Why not just pull the quotes right out of the bible—it makes a very plain case for the fact that we are approaching the end. Especially when you consider the unfulfilled prophecies and how elements that would be required to fulfill them are pretty much in place. It’s amazing.
“Be careful of the source, Ellen G White is a false prophet, and founder of the seventh day adventist church-” ~ Pastorbillrandles
Re Ellen G. White:
Dispensational Premillennialism (a modern idea) 19th Century (John Nelson Darby, William Miller, Ellen G. White)
The Disappointed: Millerism and Millenarianism in the nineteenth century
(Ronald L. Numbers Hilldale Professor of the History of Science and Medicine http://histsci.wisc.edu/people/faculty/numbers.shtml )
Former Seventh Day Adventist
The Creationists: From Scientific Creationism to Intelligent Design
Ronald L. Numbers in his book The Creationists has shown that a vast percentage of fundamental creationists have based their beliefs on dispensationalism
RobRoy - I applaude you for your efforts to become self-sufficient and buying land to sustain you and your family during the upcoming crisis.
Revelation 18:4 is a warning and the 4th Angels message. Yes, the 4th... The 3 Angels message is in Revelation chapter 14 and the fourth is in Revelation 18:4... Of course, my interpretation might be more than some could handle, yet I am not ashamed. Overcrowded cities are not the ideal place to be in a time of crisis.
On another note, God scrutinizes more the intentions, than our actions, as these can be easily misinterpreted by the bystanders.
My only intention in posting this was not evoke a doctrinal shoot out, but with the hopes that my fellow freepers can ponder for just one moment the times we are living in.
It’s not about us vs. them, patriots vs. socialists... all these events are plainly indicative of a societal meltdown, and not revolutionary human evolution. Things are simply just not getting any better...
Of course, the sharing of this opinion always carries the risk that you will be viewed as a fanatic or sky-is-falling lunatic of somekind. That doesn’t bother me, simply because:
“Yet this is no cause for shame, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him until that day. 2 Timothy 1:12
God be with you and your family.
I listen to GOD’s words... not man’s.
In His famous Sermon on the Mount, Jesus issued the following warning regarding false prophets or preachers:
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves” (Matthew 7:15).
“You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit” (Matthew 7:16-17).
I think it means credit card, bank accounts, driver’s license, SS number.....all those numbers. You typically have to have at least one before you can buy or sell anything. Not quite there yet but mighty close.
White’s a Millerist. Miller predicted the date of end of the world, incorrectly, several times. She’s also an outright liar.
Funniest thing about her: She claimed that the Pope’s title, counting up the values of the letters which are used for Latin numbers, added up to 666. ViCariVs fILII DeII.
One problem is that the pope’s title is Vicar of the Son of Man, not Vicar of the Son of God, since he represents Jesus in His worldly nature, not in his divine nature. Another problem is that church Latin doesn’t use “V” for “U.”
Here’s the funny part: eLLen goULD VVhIte adds up to 666.
Jesus gives all kinds of signs to watch for that we are entering the end times.
However, He goes on to say this.....
32"From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
36"But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Jesus is very clear that we can know the season, but not the specifics. Otherwise why would He give us signs and tell us to be on guard?
I have no doubt that we are in the end as He warned about, but anyone who claims to know more specifically, as in the day or hour, is wrong. Just as those who claim we can't even tell the age are wrong.
What do you think people thought in WW1 and then WW2, the same thing, it might not happen for hundreds of years ... then again, it might happen before I hit post (let’s see)
There are many prophecies and conditions which have now been fulfilled which weren’t even a century ago.
Plus, you miss the point.
Whether we are living in the end times or not, we should be living as if we are.
2 Peter 3:1-13
1This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, 2 that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, 3knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, 6and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. 7But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
8But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.
11Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, 12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn! 13But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
Actually, I disagree with that.
In those days free men were NOT marked. Since it was slaves and livestock which were branded, I think the concept that EVERYONE bear the mark to buy or sell would be foreign to those who were free.