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Christians Need to Prepare for Normalization of Gay Marriage
Christian Post ^ | 02/26/2011 | Nathan Black

Posted on 02/27/2011 8:24:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Though many Christians are going to try to deny "the obvious," evangelical leader Dr. Albert Mohler believes gay marriage is going to become normalized.

"I think it's clear that something like same-sex marriage is going to become normalized, legalized and recognized in the culture. It's time for Christians to start thinking about how we're going to deal with that," he said Friday on the Focus on the Family radio program.

Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, was speaking in response to the Obama administration's decision this week to stop defending the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act – federal law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman – in the courts.

Conservative groups and Christians have criticized Obama for going against his duty as president to defend the law.

"When a president takes oath of office, he's upholding ... defending the laws of the United States of America," said Mohler, who also noted that DOMA had passed as a bipartisan effort.

"The White House has clearly made a calculation that it can do this now with far less political risk than it could even two years ago."

Though Obama has always expressed his desire to repeal DOMA, his personal view on marriage had been traditional.

While on the campaign trail, running as the Democratic presidential nominee, Obama asserted his belief that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. He added, while being interviewed by Pastor Rick Warren, that "for me as a Christian, it's also a sacred union. God's in the mix."

Recently, however, he has stated that his views on gay marriage are "evolving."

The Obama administration has been pro-gay since taking office two years ago and Mohler noted that there has been a long trajectory on the issue of gay marriage pointing to this day.

With the Justice Department now pulling its defense of DOMA, pending legal challenges against the federal law will likely result with the nullification of DOMA, Mohler predicted.

"You can say, the cards are pretty much stacked against DOMA," he illustrated.

He warned that when Christians feel threatened, they have to be careful not to lash out with a predictable response.

The Southern Baptist made it clear that he was not saying that they are giving up. Marriage is still an institution Christians need to save, particularly in their own community. But Christians also need to start learning how to deal with the shifting culture and even face the fact that they may lose a few from their flock.

"I think we're going to be surprised and heartbroken over how many people are going to capitulate to the spirit of the age," he noted. "We're going to find now that there may not be as many of us as we thought."

Nevertheless, Christians must be prepared to make marriage one of the many topics where parents have to have "the talk."

"It's interesting now that the world is so morally upside down that when we talk about marriage we have to make a distinction between natural marriage – heterosexual marriage – and this new thing that people are calling marriage," Mohler said.

"We have to prepare our children to be in a context in which they're going to be in a playground with children who have two dads or two moms or who knows what kind of combination will come."

Ultimately, the worldview or the belief that God designed marriage to be between a man and a woman only makes sense if one understands the Gospel, Mohler pointed out, which raises a critical point:

"This whole situation reminds us that we are, first of all, to be Gospel people who are fellow sinners ... saved by grace, with the responsibility to share the Gospel with others."


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: albertmohler; gaymarriage; homonazi; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homosexualagenda; homotyranny; mohler; normalization; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution
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1 posted on 02/27/2011 8:24:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I knew gay marriage would eventually become reality but I had no idea that it would happen so quickly. Yieks!!! I have no doubt that gay marriage will become commonplace, but I still think that they should only have gay marriage at the court houses or Vegas and allow the pastors and priests, rabbis and others to say no if someone wants to get married in the church as a gay couple.


2 posted on 02/27/2011 8:27:42 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

Next step - force churches to hold gay wedding ceremonies for those who wish to married in the church.


3 posted on 02/27/2011 8:27:52 AM PST by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind
A Christian leader, of a seminary, folding. Pathetic.

It sounds like he's ready to jump on board the homo-wagon.

4 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:01 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

hogwash


5 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:08 AM PST by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

hogwash


6 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:13 AM PST by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

hogwash


7 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:18 AM PST by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

hogwash


8 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:20 AM PST by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

hogwash


9 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:22 AM PST by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

hogwash


10 posted on 02/27/2011 8:28:22 AM PST by brivette
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To: chickadee

Next step - force churches to hold gay wedding ceremonies for those who wish to married in the church.

We have been losing this battle big time. However, we cannot lose the battle of having gays getting married in the church unless the church is accepting of that. They should not have churches forced to perform these marriages.


11 posted on 02/27/2011 8:29:07 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: brivette

What is hogwash????


12 posted on 02/27/2011 8:30:11 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: chickadee

another goal- pull tax exemptions for religious faiths that will not
participate in blessing sodomy with a sacrament


13 posted on 02/27/2011 8:30:19 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: SeekAndFind
evangelical leader Dr. Albert Mohler believes gay marriage is going to become normalized

Evangelical leader? Surrendering to Sodom is not my idea of leadership. Dr. Mohler should take up reading the Bible some time.

14 posted on 02/27/2011 8:30:19 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: SeekAndFind

Same as divorce and premarital sex. Became normal in the society but not supported by most Christian denominations. I do not believe that any church will be “forced” to perform gay marriages but there will be many willing to do so.


15 posted on 02/27/2011 8:31:46 AM PST by Little Pharma
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To: napscoordinator
Homosexual "marriage" will NOT become commonplace. Where it has been legalized, the incidence of same-sex "weddings" has fallen drastically - just look in the Massachusetts newspaper wedding announcements.

No, they do not want to get married (too stifling for the sexual libertine lifestyle that is part and parcel of the culture.) They want the right to get married; in order to thumb their noses at a Judeo/Christian heritage that they plan to attempt to deconstruct further.

Marriage was just in the way of their true goal.

16 posted on 02/27/2011 8:32:21 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: SeekAndFind; DarthVader

“Christians Need to Prepare for Normalization of Gay Marriage”

No. those who support and sanction this perversion and abomination need to prepare for God’s judgement by repenting and seeking His forgiveness.


17 posted on 02/27/2011 8:32:24 AM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: SeekAndFind

Baloney. Also, wait until the complete financial meltdown finally hits, people will have more important things to worry about than homo marriage, PETA, AGW, etc. Those issues will all fade away as people try to survive.


18 posted on 02/27/2011 8:33:45 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Little Pharma
Same as divorce and premarital sex. Became normal in the society but not supported by most Christian denominations.

Name one denomination which won't marry someone who is divorced.

19 posted on 02/27/2011 8:34:24 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We “deal” with it the same way we “deal” with any sin. We call attention to it, teach and preach against it, and work to remove tolerance to sin from our culture.


20 posted on 02/27/2011 8:34:59 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: SeekAndFind

Mohler is a mole.


21 posted on 02/27/2011 8:36:11 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Other issues Christians should be to accept as ‘normal’:

1) Adult sex with Children

2) Killing children after the normal 9 month pregnancy as a reproductive right

3) Sharia Law

4) The State eliminating Home Schooling

5) Environmentalism as a religion

6) Bible Verses listed as Hate Speech

7) Liberation Theology,Economic Justice and Humanism as Christianity’s primary mission

8) the State seizing Church property

9) Satan equal to God

10) Islam killing Christians is a product of multiculturalism

sarc/


22 posted on 02/27/2011 8:37:42 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: fwdude

I hope you are 100 percent right but it just seems inevitable. I can’t stand Obama.


23 posted on 02/27/2011 8:38:55 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

I do not have to accept anything.

They can call it marriage all they like to me it will still be two queers living together.

They can make it legal they can even make it mandatory, but they cannot make me accept it.

If my Church starts marrying queers I will stop going.

If Catholics are forced to particip[ate in this farce we will go underground, and have services in secret.


24 posted on 02/27/2011 8:42:20 AM PST by Venturer
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To: kingattax; SeekAndFind

Right on and Mohler is a wishy-washy lukewarm coward who plays both sides of the fence


25 posted on 02/27/2011 8:45:29 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: napscoordinator
I hope you are 100 percent right but it just seems inevitable.

Even many of the "marriages" that do occur have been seen to last a very short time. Now, the spearhead of the sodomite hoards is to export their "divorces," going to states that don't recognize homo-"marriage" and trying to "divorce." It has been attempted twice here in Texas (one instance is still being challenged) and in Colorado and several other states.

The only way we can lose this is if Republicans Congressmen in power sit on their hands. The case is overwhelmingly winable.

26 posted on 02/27/2011 8:47:07 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We should never stop opposing the legal sanction of homosexual unions falsely described as “marriage”. On the other hand, where they do become the law we should start our own “civil rights movement” that no one should be forced to recognize these unions against their will. We should insist that there be no legal sanctions against those who say no, including no sanctions against corporations as well as none against individuals. The right to be free from government coercion to accept these false unions is our civil right.


27 posted on 02/27/2011 8:49:06 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: fwdude

Civil divorce does not cut it in my Catholic church. Maybe elsewhere but not where I go to church.


28 posted on 02/27/2011 8:51:27 AM PST by Little Pharma
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To: fwdude

“A Christian leader, of a seminary, folding. Pathetic.
It sounds like he’s ready to jump on board the homo-wagon. “

My sentiments exactly.


29 posted on 02/27/2011 8:52:16 AM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: fwdude

Let the defective rabble call they’re ‘union’ whatever they want.

It WILL NOT be a marriage. It may be something, but marriage no.

Marriage has a definition.

Its like a bunch of triangles getting together and deciding they are circles. Then complaining the circles are discriminating against them because the circles know triangles cannot be circles.

I have no interest in allowing the broken monkeys to define my culture.

But I do have it in my heart to pity them.


30 posted on 02/27/2011 8:52:38 AM PST by glasseye
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To: napscoordinator

that homo sex is “normal”.


31 posted on 02/27/2011 8:52:43 AM PST by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

I frankly don’t care what they do behind closed doors. It is the normalization part that I am against. It is difficult enough to raise a straight laced boy without homosexuality being a normal practice. I guess we can expect the HIV/AIDS rate to spike. Lesbianism has been normalized for a long time. I got out of college 10 years ago and even back then most of the straight girls had at least experimented. If boys experiment like that disease is going to spread like wildfire. While I would like to teach my son to be respectful of other people and their choices, I don’t see any other option than teaching hate and digust if it gets to the point that straight boys are screwing each other in their youth because it is cool to experiment.


32 posted on 02/27/2011 8:56:40 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: napscoordinator

Southern Baptist pastors can refuse to marry anyone for any reason. Unbeliever’s, one believer one not, divorced, same sex..........


34 posted on 02/27/2011 9:00:46 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: fwdude

Where did Ddr. Mohler say tnhat Southern Baptist was going to accept same sex marriage? Having to deal with it doesn’t mean acceptance.


35 posted on 02/27/2011 9:04:41 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: fwdude

The PCA church that operated my school only married divorced people in limited circumstances, for example if there was adultery or abandonment in the previous marriage.


36 posted on 02/27/2011 9:14:51 AM PST by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: Coldwater Creek

Southern Baptist pastors can refuse to marry anyone for any reason.


The more troubling question is this -— WILL CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS ( e.g. Hospitals, Not-for-profits, etc ) be FORCED BY LAW to pay for the benefits of the “partners” of gays who are employed in their organizations ?

If there is coercion, then we are not a free country any longer.

The ramifications go beyond simply being “tolerant”.


37 posted on 02/27/2011 9:24:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: chickadee

There will be ‘next steps’, no doubt about it. What ‘rights’ will they push for next, I wonder. Polygamy? Bestiality? These people don’t stop. Once they reach a threshold, they immediately start pushing for the next one. They are never happy. This is why it is so important to keep them busy fighting the gay marriage line.


38 posted on 02/27/2011 9:53:38 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: fwdude
"...same-sex marriage is going to become normalized, legalized and recognized in the culture. It's time for Christians to start thinking about how we're going to deal with that,"

No. we fight it tooth and nail and go down swinging.
We have already ceded too much ground to the Adversary (abortion as exhibit No. 1) - we do NOT learn to "live with it".
STAND! (Ephesians 6:13)

39 posted on 02/27/2011 9:56:45 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not now, not ever.


40 posted on 02/27/2011 10:00:54 AM PST by allblues
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To: SeekAndFind
The Southern Baptist made it clear that he was not saying that they are giving up

Sure sounds like it to me. The article is all about how christians need to conform to the "new reality".

41 posted on 02/27/2011 10:01:00 AM PST by what's up
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To: SeekAndFind

Moeller isn’t saying Christians should accept gay marriage. He’s saying the heathen world is going to accept it as normal and he’s right. He’s also right in saying we as Christians should prepare for how we are going to deal with this to insure our Churches and especially our children are not infected with the spirit of acceptance of this worldly perversion. Just as God warned the Jews to resist the idols and false religions of those around them so too are we called to resist and not succomb to the unholy spirit of this world we are just visitors in. And now that unholy spirit seems to include gay marriage.


42 posted on 02/27/2011 10:01:47 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

No. The church needs to be the church, and get off its tin can and win people to Christ. That is how society is changed. There is no other way.


43 posted on 02/27/2011 10:07:54 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This guy believes than even moderate alcohol intake is wrong and that childless couples are in sin.
44 posted on 02/27/2011 10:10:10 AM PST by what's up
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To: SeekAndFind

The Bible is clear about homosexuality. It’s an abomination and a sin. Those Christians who feel otherwise will face judgment for what they did in perverting Gods commandment.


45 posted on 02/27/2011 10:18:46 AM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about NO, I will not recognize fake marriage, even if it allowed by the state. -J.S.


46 posted on 02/27/2011 10:18:46 AM PST by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“We have to prepare our children to be in a context in which they’re going to be in a playground with children who have two dads or two moms or who knows what kind of combination will come.”

Wrong! Should be, “We have to prepare our children to be in a context in which they’re going to be in a playground with children IN BONDAGE TO ADULTS PRETENDING TO BE two dads or two moms or who knows what kind of combination will come.”


47 posted on 02/27/2011 10:58:12 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: circlecity

As Christians we deal with it the same way we are dealing with abortion. We oppose it, consider it a crime, march in the streets, push for changes in the law and elect our representatives accordingly.


48 posted on 02/27/2011 11:00:43 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Having to deal with it doesn’t mean acceptance.

"Dealing" with it implies compromise.

Repudiating it should be all that's offered.

49 posted on 02/27/2011 11:03:24 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Little Pharma
I do not believe that any church will be “forced” to perform gay marriages but there will be many willing to do so.

I pray you're right on the first account and hope you're wrong on the second. Unfortunately, I too believe some, if not many, churches will be willing to do so.

50 posted on 02/27/2011 11:06:36 AM PST by mtg
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