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To: WPaCon; NYer

I grew up in johnstown and now live in Pittsburgh. While it is accurate to say a majority identify as “Catholic”, I have found many are CINOs. In addition, where I am in the city, there is much New Age, humanist bullcrap as well as many mainline Protestant churches openly advocating gay marriage. The non-lib Protestants I’ve met consider me to be”unsaved” and barely a Christian. Add to that the fundie churches around here & you will see that although our bishop is prominent in the local media with some other high-profile Catholics (like the Rooneys), everyday encounters are generally unfriendly.


40 posted on 02/27/2011 8:58:41 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue; NYer

“While it is accurate to say a majority identify as “Catholic”, I have found many are CINOs.”

I think Catholics being mostly CINO is generally true practically everywhere in America, including here.

“In addition, where I am in the city, there is much New Age, humanist bullcrap as well as many mainline Protestant churches openly advocating gay marriage.”

I think where we live in the Pittsburgh area explains the differences between the surrounding attitudes. I’d assume that you would see more liberal attitudes in the city, compared to where I’ve lived my entire life, which is one of the inner suburbs. However, although I would never consider any of the parishes that I normally attend to be very “traditional” at all, it is common for homilies to preach against liberal social issues. Freepers often comment that they almost never hear social issues being addressed, but it seems pretty common where the priest will go down the list of evils naming abortion, premarital sex, divorce, homosexuality, contraception, etc. We must be really bad if we need to be lectured all the time.:) I guess in the city, you’d see that type of liberalism from all the those libs in Oakland, Shadyside, and the Christians in Squirrel Hill.

“Add to that the fundie churches around here”

There’s not many fundamentalist churches where I’m at either. Honestly, I have no idea where any Baptist church is at, and I can only think of one “megachurch,” and it is 20-25 minutes away. Most protestant churches here are mainline, and I have no idea what they advocate since they seem to have so little impact here.

“Add to that the fundie churches around here & you will see that although our bishop is prominent in the local media with some other high-profile Catholics (like the Rooneys), everyday encounters are generally unfriendly.”

While you mention the Rooneys, from what I heard, Dan is the only liberal one, while the rest of them are still conservative Catholics. Btw, after going to the Vatican Splendors at the history museum, I went up to the football section to see about Pittsburgh’s “other religion,” and thought it was funny that there were three Rosaries on display there, including Art Rooney’s. IIRC, one of Art’s brothers chose becoming a priest over playing for the Yankees.


42 posted on 02/27/2011 9:48:50 PM PST by WPaCon
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