Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Christianity isnít dying, itís being eradicated
UK Telegraph ^ | March 01 2011 | Cristina Odone

Posted on 03/01/2011 11:55:22 AM PST by knighthawk

It’s official: Britain is no longer a Christian nation. In banning Eunice and Owen Johns, a devout Christian couple, from fostering children, Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson declared that we live in a secular state, and that the Johns’ religious convictions disqualified them from raising citizens of that state. We’ve outgrown Christianity, the judges professed. Instead, we have graduated to the status of a multicultural nation, blessed by a plurality of faiths.

Ironically, the justices who have pronounced that Britain is no longer Christian did so in a court where witnesses swear on the Bible and invoke God’s help in telling the truth. I do not imagine that these judges leave out the first word in “God Save the Queen” – nor would they shun an invitation to the Royal wedding, which is happening not at a registry office but the centrepiece of official Christendom, Westminster Abbey.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: americaalone; antichristian; christianity; christophobia; failbritannia; fascism; multicultualism; multiculture; persecution; uk

1 posted on 03/01/2011 11:55:29 AM PST by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 03/01/2011 11:56:04 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

Life the spiritual covering of an area and you get devastation, defilement happens. Happens in countries,states, cities and families. You actually bring a spiritual curse on your family line.


3 posted on 03/01/2011 11:59:50 AM PST by Walkingfeather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

Eradicate: To destroy completely; to put an end to.

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, that is.


4 posted on 03/01/2011 11:59:53 AM PST by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

....but Muslims can still foster kids?


5 posted on 03/01/2011 12:00:08 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
Christianity isn’t dying, it’s being eradicated

Yeah, lots of folks have tried that. Never worked out well for them. Seems the Lord doesn't like people messing with His bride.

6 posted on 03/01/2011 12:01:20 PM PST by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
One who accepts the dictates of mumby beanby or whatever he is deserves eradication.
7 posted on 03/01/2011 12:01:49 PM PST by mmercier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
“the aphorism that ‘Christianity is part of the common law of England’ is now mere rhetoric”

Coming soon to a courthouse near you.

They nailed him to the cross, they laid him in the ground, But they shoulda known you can't keep a good man down.

(Larry Norman)

8 posted on 03/01/2011 12:02:33 PM PST by newheart (The trouble ain't too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. -Mark Twain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
It’s official: Britain is no longer a Christian nation.

It's really astonishing. I'm reading a book about the history of the King James Bible, In the Beginning. So far it's really a religious history of England. Church and State were one. Maybe that's why our Framers didn't want an official religion here, but still Church and State were one in the mother country.

ML/NJ

9 posted on 03/01/2011 12:05:19 PM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walkingfeather

I agree with you 100%. God has told us this is what happens... it is so predictable for the person who knows Him.


10 posted on 03/01/2011 12:05:35 PM PST by bareford101 ("Aslan's on the move." The Last Battle-CS Lewis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

The Telegraph already killed the page...probably at the behest of the the Home Office.


11 posted on 03/01/2011 12:06:53 PM PST by MeganC (Soli Deo Gloria)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

Well, it has been tried before. But, as we will all see soon, Christ wins and everyone will confess the truth.


12 posted on 03/01/2011 12:13:05 PM PST by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeganC

It still worked for me, so not sure what is happening.


13 posted on 03/01/2011 12:15:37 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
His legacy:


14 posted on 03/01/2011 12:29:25 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

Speaking of the history of the KJV, it’s been 400 years ago this year, since it was translated.


15 posted on 03/01/2011 12:38:03 PM PST by Kent1957
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

An article or blog on this last night indicated that the reasoning given by the judge would, applied evenly, mean that ALL Bible-believing Christian parents in England are now subject to having their children stripped from them because of their beliefs. This goes a lot further than simply foster parents being barred from caring for a child.


16 posted on 03/01/2011 12:42:49 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Thanking God for many blessings :-))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
We’ve outgrown Christianity, the judges professed. Instead, we have graduated to the status of a multicultural nation, blessed by a plurality of faiths.

1) Apparently Christianity isn't one of the acceptable "plurality of faiths".

2) Isn't this where the community-organizer-in-chief and other liberlistas want to take America?

17 posted on 03/01/2011 12:48:02 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Are the sodomites allowed to adopt?


18 posted on 03/01/2011 12:55:42 PM PST by Hayride
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Kent1957
The KJ wasn't translated. It is a translation. English still matters.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 03/01/2011 1:02:39 PM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Pyro7480

Who is to blame for France?


20 posted on 03/01/2011 1:14:55 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

Christianity is doing well in big parts of Asia.


21 posted on 03/01/2011 1:16:25 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hayride

Allowed?!? Preferred to grandparents.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2177854/posts


22 posted on 03/01/2011 1:17:01 PM PST by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground - the Hogwarts of Stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj
It’s official: Britain is no longer a Christian nation.
It's really astonishing. I'm reading a book about the history of the King James Bible, In the Beginning. So far it's really a religious history of England. Church and State were one. Maybe that's why our Framers didn't want an official religion here, but still Church and State were one in the mother country.
Yes, and the prevalence of Christianity among the founders is seen in the last paragraph of the Constitution:
Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth.
The Constitution's writers took Christianity for granted like the air they breathed. The Constitution came out of a Christian milieu. It could not have come out of a muslim milieu; sharia would not have allowed it.

23 posted on 03/01/2011 1:26:43 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

This is just part of the religion-is-child-abuse lie the left spouts from time to time. Even before I discovered the joys of conservatism, when I thought that liberalism was the shining light that would guide our nation to greatness, I saw through that one.


24 posted on 03/01/2011 1:46:34 PM PST by SoCal SoCon (Mr. President might I ask what you do with my 4th Amendment rights when not using them as a urinal?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA
Who is to blame for France?

This guy and his Jacobin associates:


25 posted on 03/01/2011 2:08:14 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Pyro7480

Good one. How about Italy?


26 posted on 03/01/2011 2:19:19 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
Good luck with that. Better men than these tools have tried and failed.

At some point, the Holy Spirit will set aflame the hearts of those Christians who still hold fast to the Faith. When that happens, look out!

Watch for it. It will happen.
27 posted on 03/01/2011 2:23:13 PM PST by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA

I don’t think Italy’s decline can be attributed to one party. Unlike France and Italy, who have been nation-states for centuries, Italy has been united for less than 200 years. I think, generally speaking, it’s various ideologies of the left that have brought it down, just like the rest of Europe.


28 posted on 03/01/2011 2:31:09 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
I don't understand this. Being chr*stian shouldn't disqualify one from being a foster parent in a "secular, multicultural" state, any more than being a moslem.

If chr*stians can't provide foster care but moslems can, perhaps it isn't a secular, multicultural state they have created over there, but an islamic "theocracy."

29 posted on 03/01/2011 2:33:20 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Kol ha`over `al-hapequdim mibben `esrim shanah vama`lah yitten terumat HaShem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pyro7480

I wonder if Europe hasn’t been choked with unbelievers for 1500 years. Only difference now is people feel free to admit their unbelief.


30 posted on 03/01/2011 2:37:12 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk

They are denying God.

They are doomed.


31 posted on 03/02/2011 12:09:13 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
Britain hasn't been a Christian nation (whatever that is) for centuries. It is a secular state and has been for some time.

The Judges are fools if they think we have "outgrown Christianity". Outgrown Christendom perhaps. Do they think the multicultural paradise we now live in is so, so much better? Objectively, I beg to differ.

32 posted on 03/02/2011 8:22:21 AM PST by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj
Yes, Church and State were one, but its important to realise that was a political rather than a religious decision. Your book will (or should) show you that Protestantism in England became tied to English nationalism - still is, to some extent. Being part of the Church of England enabled you to save your soul, serve your God, and defy England's enemies (principally Spain and France - Catholic nations both!)

Personally, as a Baptist by conviction, I don't think we should have a State religion. I welcome persecution by the State. Certainly the godless, immoral, double-standards culture that is modern Britain anyway.

33 posted on 03/02/2011 8:31:18 AM PST by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
Although the ruling was a blow to this couple, I hope that in the long run it will work as a wake-up call to the British and Americans.

We can't depend on the judicial system to defend our rights. Ultimately they are put in office by politicians, and are chosen not just for their credentials but also their particular legal biases.

It may be necessary to make significant additions to our Constitution in order to spell out very clearly what we know the founding fathers wanted.

The travesty of good Christian/Jewish couples being the only ones ineligible to adopt should be enough to generate real long-lasting action. If not, then its time to head for the hills.

34 posted on 03/02/2011 8:39:54 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zionist Conspirator
You haven't understood this yet.

Secular, multicultural societies say they are just being "fair". They say they are just preventing people (especially children) being "brainwashed" and instead "opening their minds" to other possibilities. In fact, they are always anti-Christianity. They attack faith schools all the time for the reasons above, but allow muslim madrasses. They stop children from celebrating Christmas on the grounds it might "offend" someone, but hindu light festivals are lauded because they promote "understanding". They disavow any overt Christian presence in public buildings, but build muslim prayer rooms.

Secular societies are NOT anti religion. They are anti Christian.

35 posted on 03/02/2011 8:41:30 AM PST by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Vanders9
I understand what you are saying, but you assume that chr*stianity is the true religion and that it therefore is the special target of the forces of evil. I cannot take this position, as Torah does not allow for chr*stianity, which means that chr*stianity cannot be the true religion regardless of how hostile the forces of evil are to it.

It's not a good idea to pick one's religion based on the behavior of the enemies of G-d.

36 posted on 03/02/2011 8:49:21 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Kol ha`over `al-hapequdim mibben `esrim shanah vama`lah yitten terumat HaShem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: bareford101

By way of reminder from the Boss Himself...

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.”-John 15:18 (NIV)

“But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’” John 15:28 (NIV)


37 posted on 03/02/2011 8:56:40 AM PST by hoagy62 (I am a optimistic pessimist. I am positive that the world is going to Hell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Zionist Conspirator

Yes I do assume Christianity is the true religion. As a convinced convert, that is obviously what I would do. If you don’t agree with that, well I understand, but please allow me my beliefs, and please do me the courtesy of not assuming that I hold those solely on the evidence of the behaviour of the enemies of God. I don’t “pick religion” based on what other people think. I hold to those beliefs because I think they are right. It’s extremely insulting to infer otherwise.


38 posted on 03/02/2011 9:10:16 AM PST by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson