You forgot to note that Marcel LeFebvre died as an excommunicated revolutionary against legitimate Church authority, a master of blatant disobedience and contempt for the papacy and for the about to be beatified (5/1/11) Pope John Paul II particularly. There are some well-meaning but gullible people who actually believe the schismatic drivel of SSPX and somehow confuse blatant contempt for Church authority for what they hallucinate to be “tradition.” What they should avoid is confusing SSPX with actual Catholicism. Lucifer and Marcel shared the motto: Non Serviam. Fr, Gruner has a lesser but also non-admirable track record of gross disobedience to legitimate Church authority. In what diocese does he claim to be incardinated and what is his status. Last I heard, he had refused his obedience to two dioceses in which he had been incardinated (one in Canada? and one in Italy) because, like the excommunicated Marcel, Gruner just knows better than his superiors what he should be doing as a priest. No mere parish duty or humiliating obedience for Fr. Gruner, vows or no vows. He’s right, the Church is wrong. Full speed ahead! At least, according to Fr, Gruner and other revolutionaries against legitimate Church authority.
This thread is about infiltration into the Church by communists with the intent of destroying the Church from WITHIN.
BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM, the wolves in sheep's clothing, are the infiltrators, that is: "those that detached themselves from antiquity and were seduced by lying novelty," that is, the progressivists, the expounders of liberation theology, the effeminates, the "change everything" revolutionaries, and innovators, the expounders of lying novelties.
Archbishop Lefevbre appointed by Pope John XXIII a member of the Central Preparatory Commission for VatII, the Committee spent two years preparing the schemas for the Council(all scrapped by the progressivsts. See my posting #8). Abp. Lefevbre attended Vatican II as the Apostolic Delegate for West Africa and Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers, he took a leading part in a study group of conservative bishops at the Council which became known as the Coetus Internationalis Patrum. That group opposed the progressivists at Vatican II. Abp. Lefevbre took the greatest care to attach himself to "antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." He was an anti-communist, anti- liberation theology, anti- everything that is opposed to what the church has always taught. BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM.
Those that have eyes to see let them see.
ST. VINCENT OF LERINS (400-450 AD) CONFESSOR OF THE CHURCH
"What then should a Catholic do if some part of the Church were to separate itself from communion with the universal Faith? What other choice can he make but to prefer to the gangrenous and corrupted member the whole of the body that is sound. And if some new contagion were to try to poison no longer a small part of the Church, but all of the Church at the same time, then he will take the greatest care to attach himself to antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." (Commonitorium)
Verdugo responds:
This thread is about infiltration into the Church by communists with the intent of destroying the Church from WITHIN.
BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM, the wolves in sheep's clothing, are the infiltrators, that is: "those that detached themselves from antiquity and were seduced by lying novelty," that is, the progressivists, the expounders of liberation theology, the effeminates, the "change everything" revolutionaries, and innovators, the expounders of lying novelties.
Archbishop Lefevbre appointed by Pope John XXIII a member of the Central Preparatory Commission for VatII, the Committee spent two years preparing the schemas for the Council(all scrapped by the progressivsts. See my posting #8). Abp. Lefevbre attended Vatican II as the Apostolic Delegate for West Africa and Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers, he took a leading part in a study group of conservative bishops at the Council which became known as the Coetus Internationalis Patrum. That group opposed the progressivists at Vatican II. Abp. Lefevbre took the greatest care to attach himself to "antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." He was an anti-communist, anti- liberation theology, anti- everything that is opposed to what the church has always taught. BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM.
Those that have eyes to see let them see.
ST. VINCENT OF LERINS (400-450 AD) CONFESSOR OF THE CHURCH
"What then should a Catholic do if some part of the Church were to separate itself from communion with the universal Faith? What other choice can he make but to prefer to the gangrenous and corrupted member the whole of the body that is sound. And if some new contagion were to try to poison no longer a small part of the Church, but all of the Church at the same time, then he will take the greatest care to attach himself to antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." (Commonitorium)