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Church Update on Response to Japan Earthquake and Tsunami (Mormon)
LDS Newsroom ^ | March 14, 2011 | Press Release

Posted on 03/15/2011 10:46:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: BlueMoose; roylene
Is the LDS Church now responsible for the welfare of the whole world ?

("Maybe if we, the Mormon Church, only had two temples in Japan...maybe then we would not be our brothers' keeper.")

151 posted on 03/15/2011 9:40:05 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: BlueMoose; roylene
Is the LDS Church now responsible for the welfare of the whole world ?

("And if two Japanese temples would make us responsible, what about one? If we only had one Japanese temple, would we be our brothers' keepers then?")

152 posted on 03/15/2011 9:41:46 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: RBranha
I see that a lot of very tiny people are providing their aid to the Japanese people by belittling the efforts of others, and doing it from the safety and comfort of their computer chairs.

You know this comment applies not only to those you label as "tiny people" with "small minds" on this thread, but not this yet another thread -- started right after the last response I had to post #32.

Strange. I looked @ the first 48 replies to As World Burns, Obamas Take Kids on Taxpayer Funded Rio Spring Break Vacay...and I didn't see you criticize any of the posters who were critiquing Obama's response to Japan.

Then I looked @ the first dozen responses to Obama Fiddles While the World Burns and didn't see you label those posters as "tiny people" because of their "armchair quarterbacking" aimed @ commenting upon a financial response to Japan.

Where's your consistency?

Why have you only criticized religious free speech on this topic -- while you've given a free pass to the political commentators on this same topic? And here all thru this thread, you've been giving religious posters a hard time for criticizing anybody; and yet you've let loose with a string of criticisms.

You've yet to explain how you got some "license" to criticize others' religious speech, but you've frowned upon others doin' the same thing as if you were some Highway Patrol guy pullin' over somebody goin' some speed you subjectively just didn't like.

How many more inconsistent gaps will be detected by your posts and your very loud absentee posts on certain threads critical of the response to Japan?

153 posted on 03/15/2011 9:55:34 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

All those who think this is an LDS Church web site please stand up.


154 posted on 03/15/2011 10:13:31 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: RBranha
Many of us on FR would appreciate it if you were to get a blog and use it to obsess over the mormons instead of doing it here.

like the F.R.A.M. Site?

156 posted on 03/15/2011 10:43:33 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: BlueMoose; svcw; ejonesie22
All those who think this is an LDS Church web site please stand up.

(Ah, the old "if-it-aint-the-official-Mormon-Web-site-we-can-excuse-it-away-trick"...all as certain Mormon Freeper posters will routinely link to five or more unofficial Mormon Web sites minus BlueMoose ever chirpin' in his disclaimer about those sites...hmm...)

Of course, what BlueMoose doesn't tell us is that when you go to the Web site in question, you'll find the following content page: Bishop Storehouse LocationsDistribution Centers Click on a region below to locate a Distribution Center for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Source: Lds Bishop Storehouse locations

Furthermore, another page from the Web site provides linkages to about 250 Mormon Web sites...showing it's in THE central hub of Mormonism central (vs. the fringe locale that BlueMoose might have you believe).

157 posted on 03/15/2011 10:58:38 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: svcw; BlueMoose; All; greyfoxx39; dragonblustar; Elsie
I am sorry but this is just weird. http://www.ldsemergencyresources.com/lds-challenge-to-give-help-the-tsunami-earthquake-victims-of-japan/ You donate to the Japanese relief and you get a chance to win: PULL QUOTE: We’ll also be giving away thousands of dollars in prizes: a 16GB Apple iPad, $300 gift certificate to Deseret Book, survival kits galore, and much more!

I went to their Web page and actually they have a LOT of prizes beyond the above -- only it's in the form of free emergency kits for Mormons. All Mormons have to do is get other Mormons & Mormon leaders to make purchases from them -- to use the disaster as a reminder to pump up sales for LDS Emergency Resources!

Ya wanna know what's also weird about these Mormons? Look at how they even brazenly billed doing the same thing when the Haiti disaster struck? The Moral Bribe: Paying Families to Help Chile and Haiti Disaster Victims
Source:

Google indicates that they were set up March 14 to bill it the same way re: Japan...see 2nd hit at The Moral Bribe: Paying Families to Help the Tsunami & Earthquake...

Only as of March 15, while you indeed still get the Web site, the page has been given a different URL.

So these Mormons admit to "bribing" Mormons into "good works" for Japan by offering some of them a type of lottery prize if they buy an Lds Emergency Resources "lottery ticket."

Hmmm. I didn't know the Mormon church was into gambling and promoting gambling look-alikes -- all for a supposed "good cause." (Sounds like the gambling industry's wedge into state lotteries where some of the $ goes for a "good cause" like "education").

And here the Mormon church turns ethics on its head by justifying bribery and gambling as "moral."

158 posted on 03/15/2011 11:19:39 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: svcw; All
Are these non damaged buildings being opened for the homeless? Are the kitchens in these building fixing food for the hungry? Are the storage rooms being opened to distribute clothing to the freezing? Well, at least the buildings are safe.

Uh. "NO comment," says the Mormon church.

I just scanned this Monday article from the Deseret News: Needs, safety issues in question as Mormon church plans next steps in Japan for members, missionaries

No mention at all of Japanese general population. Only Lds missionaries. Only Lds members. At the end of the article it mentions neighborhood shelters. But instead of it being available to all, it says it's designated for Mormon missionaries: "Each neighborhood has an emergency center where ALL THE MISSIONARIES have been instructed to go in such an emergency. They provide safe shelter, water, and other basic needs," the secretary's report says.

ALL: If you live in Utah & a crisis hits, don't count upon Mormons to be "neighborly" with their stocked goods.

159 posted on 03/15/2011 11:27:47 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

“But it is not an official LDS site...”

If I had a dollar...


160 posted on 03/16/2011 3:54:34 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: greyfoxx39

SLC memo:

Get at least 100 of our temporary housing kits ready for shipment ASAP!

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/806/Church-to-build-temp-housing-in-Haiti-before-rainy-season


161 posted on 03/16/2011 4:05:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
I am convinced there is no low the anti-Mormon gang on FR won’t stoop to, to attack the LDS Church.

Like POSTING stuff from the LDS organization.

TERRIBLE!

162 posted on 03/16/2011 4:38:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha
If the mormons don't say they're doing something, they get bashed on here for not doing anything.

Nope...

If the mormons don't say they're doing something, THEN THEY PROBABLY AREN'T.

163 posted on 03/16/2011 4:40:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha
Many of us on FR would appreciate it if you were to get a blog and use it to obsess over the mormons instead of doing it here.

AMEN! Brother!

I, for one, get really tired of having to read all the stuff that gets posted.

--MormonDude(If SLC decides to ignore it's past; why should ANGTIs care?)

164 posted on 03/16/2011 4:42:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha
Nope, I'm not a mind reader, but "ye shall know them by their fruits."

Ah...

We've found a TBM!

165 posted on 03/16/2011 4:44:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha
I suppose if Muslims can be Christian, then perhaps the mormons can, too.

This is true.

ONCE they drop their MUSLIMism and once they drop their MORMONism...

166 posted on 03/16/2011 4:45:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
"Shared Values and Histories of Persecution and Prejudice"

We wallow in victimhood!

167 posted on 03/16/2011 4:50:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha
Do you mean "demeaned" like the lds are here?


Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127). James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...

Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).

168 posted on 03/16/2011 5:26:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha
Certainly Latter-day Saints do not agree with Islamic teachings that deny the divinity of Jesus Christ"

Likewise...

Certainly Latter-day Saints do not agree with Christian teachings that assert the SUFFIENCY of Jesus Christ"

169 posted on 03/16/2011 5:29:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Fundamentalist Mormons are not 100% in theological alignment with mainstream Mormons; that doesn't make one of the groups non-Mormon.

True; but SLC headquarters will NEVER admit it!

170 posted on 03/16/2011 5:31:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Fundamentalist Mormons are not 100% in theological alignment with mainstream Mormons; that SHOULD make them MORE "mormon" than the SLC bunch, for they actually FOLLOW what their god told them in D&C 132!
171 posted on 03/16/2011 5:32:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
Several good and key points were made by RBranha but I am betting they fell on deaf ears.

And, if your PAST postings on FR are any indication; I'm betting you will NOT be able to point to any!

172 posted on 03/16/2011 5:34:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
The manipulation of the topic to fill the obsessed needs of the anti-Mormon gang is so bizarre

Box up your Years Supply; send it to Japan; and buy yourself new stock.

173 posted on 03/16/2011 5:36:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: All
I hope you can wake up tomorrow with a softer heart than you have today.

And if your HEAD happens to get soft instead; you may come to BELIEVE the stuff that LDS, Inc. reports.

174 posted on 03/16/2011 5:37:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; Elsie

***Many of us on FR would appreciate it if you were to get a blog and use it to obsess over the mormons instead of doing it here.****

Mormon much?

Funny thing about the word many, it is difficult to quantify.
The word most means at least 50%.
“Many” could be as many as two!


175 posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:04 AM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Paragon Defender

Links; PD.

LINKS!


176 posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Mormons have this multi-million member unhealthy obsession of the dead.

And now that the tsunami has supplied them with even MORE names; the dunking can proceed much more rapidly!

177 posted on 03/16/2011 5:39:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vendome

Spring thaw in GOD’s country!


178 posted on 03/16/2011 5:40:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

POOF!

And there went Sodom!


179 posted on 03/16/2011 5:41:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueMoose
All those who think this is an LDS Church web site please stand up.

Launched Oct. 1, 2007, LDS Emergency Resources is the largest online LDS community focused exclusively on family preparedness and disaster relief, and you’re part of it.

180 posted on 03/16/2011 5:45:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

181 posted on 03/16/2011 5:48:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

I can hardly believe the nonsense I am seeing here.

The Mormon Church already has services on the ground. They are already feeding people. They will use the undamaged church buildings as homeless shelters just like they did in Haiti and just like they do in disasters everywhere. Likely they will have food, clothing and hygiene supplies on the ground and in peoples possession before any other agency. That is before any other church, or even the government. One thing the Mormons know how to do is take care of distressed people.

Perhaps they don’t fit YOUR idea of what a Christian is but they sure ACT like Christians are supposed to act. Maybe it is just an ACT but if it is they sure put on a good show.


182 posted on 03/16/2011 5:49:42 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Gamecock

You will PAY for breaking an ELSIETHON!


183 posted on 03/16/2011 5:49:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

It wasn’t enough to try to highjack Christianity;
NOW they are trying to highjack the MAYANs!


184 posted on 03/16/2011 5:51:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RBranha

I’ve read a lot of your posts, Colofornian, and I’m reminded of Emerson : A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

Many of us on FR would appreciate it if you were to get a blog and use it to obsess over the mormons instead of doing it here.

_________________________________________________________

Amen, and Amen!


185 posted on 03/16/2011 6:12:03 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: RBranha

I’ve read a lot of your posts, Colofornian, and I’m reminded of Emerson : A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

Many of us on FR would appreciate it if you were to get a blog and use it to obsess over the mormons instead of doing it here.

_________________________________________________________

Amen, and Amen!


186 posted on 03/16/2011 6:12:11 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig
Surely my religion is at least as good as yours

My Savior is better.

His blood will atone for any MURDER I commit.

187 posted on 03/16/2011 6:45:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
ALL: If you live in Utah & a crisis hits, don't count upon Mormons to be "neighborly" with their stocked goods.

If the crap hits the fan and there is a huge disaster, people will start looking for Mormons because they all know that Mormons have food hidden. If word gets out to an angry, hungry mob, that mormons are hold up with lots of food, if won't be pretty.

188 posted on 03/16/2011 8:00:22 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: dragonblustar

If word gets out to an angry....mob,

Sounds like Mountain Meadows...


189 posted on 03/16/2011 8:28:23 AM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: JAKraig
"One thing the Mormons know how to do is take care of distressed people."

And other charitable organizations don't? There are much more capable organizations out there other than the mormon church and they don't prioritize or discriminate between member and non-member like the LdS.

I'll share some observations/experiences with you. When I was a mormon living in the SE US, I was able to participate in and witness LdS responses to hurricanes and tropical depressions.

Only after their members are taken care of, do they begin to look outside of mormon circles to help people in the local areas. One such event that I witnessed first hand was in Georgia after TS Alberto in '94. I talked with numerous relief agency folks who, although thankful for the use of buildings undamaged by flood waters, noticed that incoming relief supplies and equipment were used first and foremost for LdS folks.

A crew of us who were full-time and part-time general contractors, who had driven from central SC to southern GA on our own dime, were not permitted to sleep, shower or prepare meals in the local ward bldg. "Liability concerns", yet, we were all mormons, there to help. Curious.

The rebuilding efforts/supplies/equipment were almost exclusively focused on LdS folks in order and priority of their "position" or "activity" within the church.

The most active, temple attending got help first, then they worked down the chain to those who were inactive, but still "members".

Afterwards, whatever was left over after having been picked over by members for their use, was "donated" to the local non-LdS population.

Is this to say that they're doing the same in Japan? I don't know. But to this day, I still question their priorities based on my experiences while I was a mormon.

190 posted on 03/16/2011 8:38:41 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: BlueMoose
Is the LDS Church now responsible for the welfare of the whole world?

Well, your Prophet Benson and Apostle McConkie declared that the mormon church is responsible for the spiritual welfare of the "whole earth"....

Flooding the Earth with the Book of Mormon

The time is long overdue for a massive flooding of the earth with the Book of Mormon for the many reasons which the Lord has given. In this age of the electronic media and the mass distribution of the printed word, God will hold us accountable if we do not now move the Book of Mormon in a monumental way.

We have the Book of Mormon, we have the members, we have the missionaries, we have the resources, and the world has the need. The time is now!

My beloved brothers and sisters, we hardly fathom the power of the Book of Mormon, nor the divine role it must play, nor the extent to which it must be moved.

“Few men on earth,” said Elder Bruce R. McConkie, “either in or out of the Church, have caught the vision of what the Book of Mormon is all about. Few are they among men who know the part it has played and will yet play in preparing the way for the coming of Him of whom it is a new witness. … The Book of Mormon shall so affect men that the whole earth and all its peoples will have been influenced and governed by it. … There is no greater issue ever to confront mankind in modern times than this: Is the Book of Mormon the mind and will and voice of God to all men?” (Millennial Messiah pp. 159, 170, 179.) We testify that it is.

Now, my good Saints, we have a great work to perform in a very short time. We must flood the earth with the Book of Mormon—and get out from under God’s condemnation for having treated it lightly. (See D&C 84:54–58.)

191 posted on 03/16/2011 8:46:01 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("Take a look around this country. Outside the Beltway, we are all Jews now." Stuart Schwartz)
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To: Colofornian
Is the LDS Church now responsible for the welfare of the whole world?

Humanitarian Efforts Review (Yellow Shirt Video)

192 posted on 03/16/2011 8:48:08 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("Take a look around this country. Outside the Beltway, we are all Jews now." Stuart Schwartz)
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To: dragonblustar

Attention all Stake Presidents:

Be sure to remind your people that NOW who be a GOOD time to turn over their stock.

A semi trailer will be parked on the grounds to receive their last year supply for shipment overseas.

Buy your new stuff now!

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/LTAH_Food_Store6.html


193 posted on 03/16/2011 9:00:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman
“So what are you doing to help the people of Japan? Any people? Even members of your own faith whatever it is?”

Every major Christian denomination will be or is there helping.
Some of us wonder why a thread is needed trumpeting what Mormons may or may not do.
It very appears to be self promoting.

194 posted on 03/16/2011 9:05:07 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: BlueMoose
Is the LDS Church now responsible for the welfare of the whole world?

There is no doubt that the Corporation of the President of the Church of Latter-Day Saints is in "prosperous circumstances."

Alma 1:28-31

28And thus they did establish the affairs of the church; and thus they began to have continual peace again, notwithstanding all their persecutions.

 29And now, because of the steadiness of the church they began to be exceedingly arich, having abundance of all things whatsoever they stood in need—an abundance of flocks and herds, and fatlings of every kind, and also abundance of grain, and of gold, and of silver, and of precious things, and abundance of bsilk and fine-twined linen, and all manner of good homely ccloth.

 30And thus, in their aprosperous circumstances, they did not send away any who were bnaked, or that were hungry, or that were athirst, or that were sick, or that had not been nourished; and they did not set their hearts upon criches; therefore they were dliberal to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, whether out of the church or in the church, having no erespect to persons as to those who stood in need.

 31And thus they did aprosper and become far more wealthy than those who did not belong to their church.


195 posted on 03/16/2011 9:05:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("Take a look around this country. Outside the Beltway, we are all Jews now." Stuart Schwartz)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It very appears to be self promoting.

See Post #2. The ones doing the promotion and most of the posting is the usually nutty Fred Phelps wanna-be "We hate Mormons" cabal.

FWIW, I work for a Japanese company. All of our vendors with any significant presence there (and a few without) are letting us know what they are doing.

Does this violate what Jesus taught in Matthew 6:1-4? Or does it comply with what he taught in Matthew 5:14-16?

I don't know the answer, because I don't pretend to know the intents of someone's heart, but I will let God be the judge.

196 posted on 03/16/2011 9:24:47 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

I just know that we very rarely see threads here on FR describing what Christian denominations are doing during times of crisis.
They are doing the work; but people just don’t see a need to put together a thread describing it.
I could describe the specifics of what my group is doing, but it doesn’t belong here.


197 posted on 03/16/2011 9:29:59 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I agree. I was just pointing out that it wasn’t Mormon Freepers posting the thread. It was the usual Fred Phelps wannabes using it as an opportunity to trash Mormons.


198 posted on 03/16/2011 9:47:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
"...the usually nutty Fred Phelps wanna-be "We hate Mormons" cabal."

Encore! Encore!

"I don't pretend to know the intents of someone's heart, but I will let God be the judge."

Really? After that opening salvo, I seriously doubt that.

199 posted on 03/16/2011 9:51:19 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SZonian
The "We hate Mormons" cabal doesn't exactly keep it a secret as evidenced by their rantings on this thread and others.

Unless you are a high official in the Obozo Administration, merely taking someone at their word is not being judgmental any more than declaring that Al Qaida is a terrorist group.

200 posted on 03/16/2011 10:03:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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