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Russian Church fundraises for Orthodox believers in Japan
Interfax ^ | 15 March 2011

Posted on 03/15/2011 11:08:09 AM PDT by Gamecock

Moscow, March 15, Interfax - The Moscow Patriarchate is fundraising for needs of Orthodox believers who suffered from the earthquake in Japan.

"We start collecting aid in Sts Martha and Mary Convent in Moscow. We're fundraising for needs of the country's Orthodox communities," head of the Synodal Department for Charities and Social Work Bishop Panteleimon of Orekhovo-Zuyevo told Interfax-Religion on Tuesday.

According to him, there is no any accurate and detailed information about damage inflicted to Orthodox churches in Japan.

"However, we know that some churches were badly damaged, one or two are destroyed," the bishop said.

Bishop Panteleimon added that his department fundraises together with the Synodal Department for External Church Relations.

"Means can be transferred to the accounts of the Synodal Department for Charities in rubles, dollars and euros. We will publish detailed information about donated money," he said.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: orthodxx

1 posted on 03/15/2011 11:08:11 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

http://www.iocc.org/news/3-14-11japan.aspx


2 posted on 03/15/2011 11:10:08 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; greyfoxx39; RnMomof7

To heck with the Pagans! < /sarc>

(I guess their Bible doesn’t include the account of the Good Samaritan.)


3 posted on 03/15/2011 11:11:04 AM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Kolokotronis

Perhaps the Russian church didn’t get the message.


4 posted on 03/15/2011 11:13:46 AM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Gamecock

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=8283
“”The number of the Japanese who identify themselves with Orthodoxy equals to about 30,000 people.

The Japanese Autonomous Church was founded by St. Nikolay (Kasatkin) who came to Japan on 1861 on the decision of the Holy Synod. He founded and headed the Russian Orthodox mission in Japan in 1870. He translated the Holy Scripture and liturgical books into Japanese and built the Resurrection Cathedral in Tokyo.””


5 posted on 03/15/2011 11:21:08 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

30,000?
From my limited understanding of the religious landscape of Japan that is a pretty good sized denomination.


6 posted on 03/15/2011 11:46:17 AM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Gamecock
(I guess their Bible doesn’t include the account of the Good Samaritan.)

If works are worthless, who cares? It's going to make no difference to my eternal destiny. I'm saved by faith alone. Done and done. Why should I bother? You insinooatin' that works have some value?

I often wonder what the sola fide crowd think when they read the parable of the Good Samaritan. Who was pleasing to God? Not the Levite nor the priest, who presumably believed and had faith but rather, the Samaritan who actually did something and helped the man who had been robbed. Are we therefore to believe that God would not reward him for his charity to his neighbor? I think not for Paul tells us that there are three things, faith, hope and love.........and the greatest of these is love.

Yes Felicity, faith without works, is useless.

7 posted on 03/15/2011 12:02:31 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

**If works are worthless, who cares?**

It is worthless in the realm of justification. That’s where the Papists and various legalistic denominations get it wrong.

The new man will want to do works because of the love showed us. It is evidence to the outside world we are saved, but does nothing to improve our rightstanding before God.


8 posted on 03/15/2011 12:07:02 PM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Gamecock; marshmallow
AMEN!

"That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men." -- Titus 3:7-8

First men are justified by Christ on the cross according to the will and purpose of God. Then they believe by the work of the indwelling Holy Spirit freely given to them, and from that faith comes good works, the fruit of the Spirit.

9 posted on 03/15/2011 12:23:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock
The new man will want to do works because of the love showed us. It is evidence to the outside world we are saved, but does nothing to improve our rightstanding before God.

In other words, the Samaritan's help to the man who had been robbed, would go unrewarded by God. Which brings me back to my original question; why bother? I'd be with the Levite. Carry on walking. I'm already saved.

Which makes a mockery of the words of Jesus who commended the "mercy" shown by the Samaritan and instructed his listeners to do likewise. Apparently, when we show mercy to others, it makes no difference to our relationship with God.

Was Jesus just jerking them around, then? Did he forget to say...."Oh by the way, this won't help you one iota to enter into paradise..."?

Interestingly (lurkers take note), immediately after the parable of the Good Samaritan in Luke, we have the story of Martha and Mary. This is the other side of the coin. Martha runs around busy, busy and Jesus rebukes her for not first sitting at the his feet like Mary.

We take from these two episodes in Luke the teaching that first comes our relationship with Jesus (we sit at his feet) and from this springs our works. Our works are therefore testament to our faith and are proof that it is real.

So yes, works alone are not salvific, but neither is a faith that smugly thinks that it need not be put into action. See James. Anyone who thinks that all that is necessary to attain paradise is to maintain a gut feeling of being saved........or else damnation.......is deluded.

10 posted on 03/15/2011 12:53:06 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow; Dr. Eckleburg
***I'm already saved.***

We would say if there is no behvior change your profession is questionable.

In other words, the Samaritan's help to the man who had been robbed, would go unrewarded by God.

So is that your motivation?!? "To be rewarded by God for all your "good" works? If that is one's motivation I would worry about the underlying issue of greed.....

As it is written: "So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’” Luke 17:10

11 posted on 03/15/2011 1:20:33 PM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Gamecock

So quick to judge.

You help the people you can reach through the people you can trust. If you hear reports of the Russian Orthodox Churches slamming their doors on the faces of the pagans, then judge them... after you’ve given all you have to the poor, as well.


12 posted on 03/15/2011 1:33:41 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
We're fundraising for needs of the country's Orthodox communities," head of the Synodal Department for Charities and Social Work Bishop Panteleimon of Orekhovo-Zuyevo told Interfax-Religion on Tuesday.

Let's focus on the story shall we?

13 posted on 03/15/2011 1:41:14 PM PDT by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: marshmallow; Gamecock
In other words, the Samaritan's help to the man who had been robbed, would go unrewarded by God. Which brings me back to my original question; why bother? I'd be with the Levite. Carry on walking. I'm already saved.

No. There will be reward for those good works we walk in. What Catholics appear to be confused about is just what the reward is. The rewards for good works in not eternal life. We have that already by our faith in Christ. There are additional rewards for works done by those who are saved.

For those who are not saved, good works are meaningless in regard to salvation. Sure, they make life more pleasant for everyone involved, but they don't contribute to attaining salvation.

14 posted on 03/15/2011 1:49:24 PM PDT by metmom
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To: Gamecock
"Perhaps the Russian church didn’t get the message."

I suspect they did get the message since their Eparchy here in America is part of the IOCC. The Moscow Patriarchate is raising the money within its own canonical territory. Likely it is coordinated with the IOCC.

15 posted on 03/15/2011 1:58:03 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Gamecock

Like I said: When they slam a door on a pagan searching relief, and you’ve given all you own to the poor, then you can judge.


16 posted on 03/15/2011 2:46:40 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Gamecock
So is that your motivation?!? "To be rewarded by God for all your "good" works?

Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” -- Mt 19:21

17 posted on 03/15/2011 3:01:46 PM PDT by Campion
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To: marshmallow
So yes, works alone are not salvific, but neither is a faith that smugly thinks that it need not be put into action. See James. Anyone who thinks that all that is necessary to attain paradise is to maintain a gut feeling of being saved........or else damnation.......is deluded.

Although it may appear to be from the outside, that's not how it works with a born again Christian...

Apparently the salvific process for you guys includes the 'gut feeling' of getting saved while doing good works to add to your account...

A born again Christian knows that when we do good works, it is not us doing the works but Jesus Christ within us...

18 posted on 03/15/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Campion
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” -- Mt 19:21

IF you all believe that was written for you, and you haven't sold everything you own to give away, any chance for heaven is out of your reach...

19 posted on 03/15/2011 3:12:06 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; Campion

That is clearly what it says. This Scripture obviously does not mean what it says. Must be one of those “implicit” meanings that the RCC so often cites. But I am willing to wait for clarity on this...


20 posted on 03/15/2011 4:04:45 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Gamecock

You know, if you had said, “Let’s not forget the suffering pagans, for we are commanded by God to be merciful and kind to all people,” I would’ve agreed with you. But one problem with judging is you *do* first have to walk the mile in their shoes.

The Miyagi Prefacture, where the tsunamis hit the hardest, was centuries ago the last holdout on Honshu of the Ainu, the earlier inhabitants of Japan prior to the medieval invasions from Korea and China. The Ainu were hunted down, and nearly exterminated; the invaders number now 130 million, while the Ainu are a mere 35,000; many of them now are Russian Orthodox, among the very few Christians in Japan. Until recently, they have been brutally repressed. Now, Japan is getting all multi-culti with the Ainu, but typically focusing on their pre-Christian animist roots, such as bear sacrifices.

So, you’re correct in that Christian charity shouldn’t be just for our fellow Christians; on the other hand, a special Russian concern for the Christian Ainu is understandable.


21 posted on 03/15/2011 5:04:11 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Kolokotronis; Gamecock; dangus

The local Autonomous Orthodox Church of Japan is our partner (working through IOCC) in providing assistance to all Japanese, of all faiths or none.

So if the local Church also has need, it is fitting to strengthen it, both in meeting the needs of its own people and in its service to the nation of Japan in general.

Moreover, the Church of Japan is the fruit of missionary efforts of the Russian Orthodox Church, so the Russian Church has a special relationship with it. St. Nicholas, Enlightener of Japan, a Russian who brought Orthodoxy to Japan, is mentioned every week in Vespers (at least in the OCA) and commemorated on February 3.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Nicholas_of_Japan


22 posted on 03/15/2011 5:38:48 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Gamecock

Here is a report directly from the Orthodox Church in Japan:

http://www.orthodox-jp.com/westjapan/earthquake/201103earthquake_en.html


23 posted on 03/16/2011 9:28:44 PM PDT by newberger (Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.)
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