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Why Christ Comes to 12 ^ | 03-14-11 | Bill Randles

Posted on 03/16/2011 11:27:12 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah ? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat? I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.(Isaiah 63;1-4)

How important is the Arab world to Bible prophecy ? Isaiah predicts that Jesus himself comes to his own people, from Edom, which is the territory south and east of the Dead Sea currently known as Southern Jordan and Northern Saudi Arabia. In the process of saving his people, Jesus’ garments become spattered in the blood of God’s enemies who sought to annihilate those people!

Such is the day of vengeance, and the time of Redemption. It starts in Edom, and works its way out to the whole world, ending in the judgment of the nations and the establishment of the Kingdom of God.

Edom, or Esau as he is known, was Jacob’s twin brother, the firstborn, but the one not chosen to carry “the seed of the woman”. He hated Jacob, and vowed to murder him, believing that Jacob had swindled him out of his birthright. The people who came out of Esau, nurtured that hatred, in fact it exists to this day, it is called in scripture, “the Perpetual hatred”.

Edom has been destroyed as a national entity, as has Moab, and Ammon. But there are a people whom God addresses as Edom, or Esau, or Mt. Sier, who feature heavily in end times prophecy.

The descendant Ishmaelites, Edomites, Moabites, Midianites, and the rest of the traditional, ancient enemies of Israel, constitute the Arab middle east. A good many have been christianised, and the bulk have been united by Islam. I believe that Edom is a designation for the Arab Muslim world, who are the near neighbors of Israel and who hate her very existence.

The prophet Obadiah addresses the coming judgment on Esau, and gives the reasons why;

* Violence against His brother Jacob-

For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. Obadiah 10

* Joining those who plundered Jerusalem-In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.(Obadiah 11)

* Taking Joy in the suffering and humiliation of Israel-But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.(Obadiah 13)

We see shades of this in the recent spectacle of “Palestinian” Arabs dancing in the streets and passing out sweets at the news of the slaughter of the Udi Fogel family in their beds, including the slitting of an infant’s throat, and the stabbing of a three year old in the heart bu grown men. God has seen this and takes note.

* Assisting the persecutors of Israel and hindering their escape from them- The Hadith’s of the Koran teach Muslims that this very thing will be done in the last days, that even the rocks and trees will betray the hiding places of Jews, that they might be slaughtered.

No wonder then , that Esau’s modern sons were so willing to assist the Nazi’s in the holocaust, and by rioting and pograms, to prevent their return to the Holy Land in the days of the nazi terror. This is the murderous rage of Edom, called the “perpetual hatred”, in Ezekiel.

* Loving bloodshed -

Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.(Ezekiel 35:5-6)

Esau’s spiritual descendents boast that they love blood. They name city squares in Gaza and the West Bank after mass murderers, and pass out sweets when Jewish children are murdered. Mothers aspire that their sons will be mass murderers, and hold wedding ceremonies for them after they perform cruel murder.

They tell us in the west that they will prevail, because we love life but they love death. Should we even imagine that God doesn’t see this and hate it ? Christ will have the last word, not the USA or the EU.

Edom is sick, it is doomed, Christ is coming to make war on it. This death and blood loving culture will be pursued by blood in the day that Christ comes back.

* Claiming the Holy Mountain as theirs-

And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them.( Ezekiel 35:12-13)

Even after the 1967 six-day war and the retaking of Jerusalem, the Jordanian Waqf has been given stewardship of the temple mount in Jerusalem. This mountain is the holiest place to the Jewish people, the only place on earth where God says He has placed His name, yet it is controlled by Edomites.

They are feverishly destroying any archeological evidence of a Jewish temple, hollowing out the Holy Mountain, and hauling off the rubble containing crushed, but precious relics of first and second temple, and dumping them as fill! God is allowing this until the appointed time.

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.(Ezekiel 36:5)

Judgment is coming to Edom, there are places in southern Jordan that are going to be rendered uninhabitable even into the millennium, so great is the wrath. Christ himself returns to Edom, because his own people are trapped there, and He comes to rescue them.

Pray for the Moslems, the Arab people, many are being converted by dreams visions and revelations of Jesus, God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance…Whosever will call upon the name of Jesus will be saved!

TOPICS: Current Events; History; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: jesus; lastdays; muslims; terrorist

1 posted on 03/16/2011 11:27:14 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles
God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance…Whosever will call upon the name of Jesus will be saved!

2 posted on 03/16/2011 11:36:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: pastorbillrandles
According to what the LORD told Rebekah Genesis 25:23 "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger." It is not correct to say that Esau has no national entity as per the promise to Rebekah. Esau's children are NOT the Arab peoples. The Arab peoples are the children of Ishmael and the 'generations of Ishmael' is listed in Genesis 25:12 before Esau was ever born.
3 posted on 03/17/2011 12:11:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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...Rabbi Elie Munk, zt’l, briefly discusses the subject in his commentary, The Call of The Torah:

“In Talmudic sources and in Midrashic literature, the names Esav- Edom are often identified with Rome...Later, when Rome adopted Christianity, the same appelation was conferred upon the whole of the Christian world. Flavius Josephus [famous Jewish general and historian] records that Tz’fo, a grandson of Esav, was the founder of Rome, which eventually became the center of Christianity. Since then, it has become traditional to consider the Christians as representative of Esav’s off- spring and the Jews as descendants of Yaakov. The antagonism between Jacob and Esav is thus symbolic of that between Rome and Jerusalem....” (I, p. 337)

4 posted on 03/17/2011 12:47:40 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Whatever part Esau's offspring had in the founding of Rome, which I am not questioning, they were to have a national identity. And Rome is not their modern lands. But since Esau did not receive the blessing, his descendants were to live away from the ‘fat’ of the land. Rome does not fit that description.

It is beyond strange to me that Esau would be semi-credited with the founding of Christianity given he was not the child of the promised seed, as was given to Jacob. NOW that is NOT to say, hint or speculate that the children of Esau individually would not repent and be saved. Rather the governmental system of Esau's offspring since Esau's birth would emulate Esau's personality traits. What we are told about Esau as a man (and mind you I am NOT judging his latter end) is not necessarily a persona to emulate. He did things his way and carried a heavy vengeful bitterness after realizing his shortsightedness.

5 posted on 03/17/2011 1:19:40 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Since First Temple times, it has been impossible to separate and identify exactly who are the descendants of Ishmael, Esau and Amalek. Because they are of continuing importance, traditional Judaism has recorded the cultures they represent: Ishmael is Islam and Esau is Christianity and Western Civilization. It’s just an FYI that Jews understand Bible concepts in very specific ways that are sometimes at variance with Christian understandings.

6 posted on 03/17/2011 6:28:42 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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