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Rev. Franklin Graham: Japan Quake May Be Beginning Of Second Coming....
Real Clear Politics ^ | March 18th, 2011

Posted on 03/20/2011 2:34:25 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: ReverendJames

The end of the Age is the Church..Once the church is removed then the *Wrath of GOD* comes upon the earth...

Did Noah fall into the water?

Did Abraham escape the fire of Sodom?

They were not part of GOD’s wrath, the Lord has not changed his ways since the beginning....


51 posted on 03/20/2011 3:23:18 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: ReverendJames
The Rapture includes "the dead in Christ" and then the redeemed who are still living. There is no mention made of any judgment associated with the Rapture. The Rapture occurs to get Christ's Bride off the earth before the seven-year Tribulation, and for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. The Bride will also receive their rewards during this time at the Bema Seat.

The resurrection at the end of the Tribulation includes all of the dead unsaved who will be raised for the purpose of judgment.

The Rapture and the resurrection at the end of the Tribulation are two separate events for two separate purposes.

52 posted on 03/20/2011 3:25:08 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: ReverendJames

Like what?


53 posted on 03/20/2011 3:26:59 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: Huskrrrr

You are correct but we will see signs of the impending end, we must be prepared.


54 posted on 03/20/2011 3:28:02 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: TaraP

And you are absolutely sure that you are righteous enough that you will be taken up in the rapture. I have lived a pretty clean life but I am not sure. I hope, but perfect is pretty hard to achieve.

Rowdy


55 posted on 03/20/2011 3:31:17 PM PDT by 1Rowdy1 (Keep You're Powder Dry and You're Head LOW, be very veeryy small. _ _( . )( . )_ _)
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To: TaraP
Here's the thing. There are three schools of thought on the so-called "Rapture". There's pre, mid, and post. All have their arguments to their positions. My answer to those that believe in the pre-Tribulation Rapture is:

All through the centuries of Christian persecution, the torture, the horrible deaths by burning and killing, can you honestly look into their faces and tell them the persecution you've gone through? The material things, no starvation, no depredation of any sort. The access to medicine, hospitals the outright enjoyment of life. You can look those people in the face and tell them how bad you had it? I would rather suffer through the anti-Christ and all it entails and be able to hold my head high and say "Yes, I've suffered as you have" - not enjoy what I have now on earth and say that I've suffered as you have.

On the other hand, the biblical teaching of the first resurrection is more straightforward. On the day Christ returns to earth to establish His Kingdom, the dead in Christ will rise first, and those who are alive and converted will follow. They will meet Him in the air and immediately return to earth as a vast army of spirit beings to defeat the Beast and False Prophet in the Valley of Jehoshaphat (Revelation 19:14; Joel 3:1-2; Zechariah 14:1-5).

56 posted on 03/20/2011 3:32:02 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: TaraP

PS. God’s wrath has always been on the non-believers. Never his children.


57 posted on 03/20/2011 3:32:54 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: Josephat

Sir, the Internet is an amazing tool. You merely have to plug in to your favorite search engine any word, thought or idea and come up with answers that suit your particular belief. Try it.


58 posted on 03/20/2011 3:34:50 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: Huskrrrr
"Be wary of false prophets. I don't think Christians should be predicting the second coming...”"

You got that right!

59 posted on 03/20/2011 3:35:44 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

The Rapture refers to when Christ returns to Earth to conquer Satan and is spoken about in Revelation 16:15-17 and Revelation 17:4 and when the believers will join Him in heaven, before death, which is spoken about in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. However, the word “rapture, is never mentioned in the Bible.


60 posted on 03/20/2011 3:36:34 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: 1Rowdy1

Yes..I am sure I will be part of the *Rapture* I believe the scriptures....


61 posted on 03/20/2011 3:37:23 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

Or not. Why the hell do evangelists who claim to put Scripture first think it’s a good idea to do extra-scriptural (or perhaps even anti-Scriptural) prognostication?


62 posted on 03/20/2011 3:40:20 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: ReverendJames

We who live in the USA in modern times, will never know the persecution of our belief, like those from past centuries....

We do not know what it is like to be a Martyr and killed for our belief in this country...

GOD IMO looks at *Us* in this country in how we help other’s in those persecuted countries.....

Lastly:

With the millions of Christians all over the planet, how is GOD going to pour his wrath on the world??

144K are the ones to preach the Gospel after the Rapture of the Church....


63 posted on 03/20/2011 3:43:31 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

It’s obvious that every day is a day closer to the Second Coming of Jesus and then the end of the age.


64 posted on 03/20/2011 3:49:51 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: TaraP
"144K are the ones to preach the Gospel after the Rapture of the Church....

Some facts about the 144,000 from Revelation 7 and Revelation 14 give us insight regarding their identity.


65 posted on 03/20/2011 3:57:57 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: wolfman

They can.


66 posted on 03/20/2011 3:59:28 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: TaraP

Yes, come Lord Jesus.


67 posted on 03/20/2011 3:59:53 PM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

They mocked Noah pretty bad too, since there had never been rain on Earth prior to the flood. Can you imagine? Well, look who had the last laugh?


68 posted on 03/20/2011 4:01:25 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: TaraP; JoeProBono; a fool in paradise

Revvy Franklin is managing his theological hedge fund.


69 posted on 03/20/2011 4:03:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: TaraP
the end could come in 2012 or later.

Duh!!

70 posted on 03/20/2011 4:04:01 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Agree! I know that some of this end times stuff helped in leading me to Christ. Of course, first I was broken about my sin and realized I needed a savior. All of God’s Holy Words have relevance to us for a host of reasons.


71 posted on 03/20/2011 4:04:31 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: TaraP

Love it. Preach the WORD, Sister.


72 posted on 03/20/2011 4:05:33 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: TaraP
It ain't gonna happen when you expect it.

That's the only thing we know for sure.

73 posted on 03/20/2011 4:05:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: 1Rowdy1

I don’t think any true believer believes he/she is righteous of their own works; we know it is not by works that we are saved; it is by the grace of God. We are declared righteous through Christ.


74 posted on 03/20/2011 4:06:52 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: TaraP
the evangelist says the end could come in 2012 or later.

Way to go out on a limb there, Rev.

75 posted on 03/20/2011 4:07:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Actually, we are instructed to watch for the signs, even though we may not know the hour ... as it was int he days of Noah, etc. Jesus spent no small amount of time instructing on this very topic.


76 posted on 03/20/2011 4:07:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: ReverendJames

The Antichrist will appear out of nowhere to lead, as I interpret Scripture. He will appear to have the virtues of wisdom and courage, but like his lord Satan will be a liar and a murderer.


77 posted on 03/20/2011 4:08:33 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Yes, but, the last 7 years will be obvious. The anti-christ will sign a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and break that treaty in the middle of the 7 years. Jesus could have come back at any time after He rose to be with the Father.


78 posted on 03/20/2011 4:08:43 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: ReverendJames

They are the 12 tribes of Israel.....

Jesus said he would come *Like a Thief in the night* so keep watch...

To me this just commands a bit of common sense...

How would one know a thief might be breaking in there home?

They might hear an opening of a door, or maybe a window opening...

They hear..They respond...

If you ignore what happens?

The thief takes what he wants and leaves, and you arise to find that you have been *left* with nothing....


79 posted on 03/20/2011 4:09:00 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: MHGinTN
Every generation thinks nobody has ever had it as bad as they have it.

That's what you think, right?

80 posted on 03/20/2011 4:10:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: TaraP; JoeProBono; a fool in paradise
There once was a Reverend Graham
Swinging to hit a grand slam
Predicting second coming
Noone on bases running
It was nothing but a sham

81 posted on 03/20/2011 4:10:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: TaraP

That ejection seat theology must be comforting. Funny how the apostles never had that option. Most of them (along with their families) met brutal deaths.

If He didnt spare his own, he wont spare you.


82 posted on 03/20/2011 4:11:29 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: MHGinTN

AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH

“But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be” (Matthew 24:37).

Let us now go to the book of Genesis and learn more about the days of Noah.

GOD FORETOLD THE NUMBER OF YEARS UNTIL THE COMING JUDGMENT

God revealed to Noah that man’s days would be another 120 years until the judgment would come:

“And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years” (Genesis 6:3).


83 posted on 03/20/2011 4:11:37 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: ReverendJames
Jesus said that Christians would have tribulation during their lives on this earth. God never promised to always protect Christians from the tribulations which come as a result of living in a fallen, evil world. We will have tribulation because we live in a world of which Satan is the "god of this age". Christians have always had tribulations and will continue to until they die.

The seven-year Tribulation is a specific event; a judgment on this world that is controlled by and sent by God.

Christians will have tribulations but we will not go through the God-sent judgment known as the Tribulation.

84 posted on 03/20/2011 4:14:23 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: TaraP

85 posted on 03/20/2011 4:14:39 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: GAB-1955

I’m watching for some guy to get up in the UN and announce he has the answers to everything. Like “all ya’ll stop fighting, ya hear?. I have the answers to your problems. And Okay, let the Jews build their temple again”. Him, I’d be watching real careful. Then if he gets assassinated, then comes back to life a bit later then all bets are off.


86 posted on 03/20/2011 4:15:20 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: Soothesayer9

What did Jesus say in Matthew 24????

Jesus was saying about the days of Noah:

“But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood THEY were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took THEM all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be” (Matt. 24:37-39).

THEY were eating and drinking. THEY were marrying and giving in marriage. THEY knew not until the flood came and took THEM all away. Who were THEY? THEY were the unbelievers.

The unbelievers knew not until the flood came and took THEM all away. But, as the time drew nigh, THE BELIEVERS KNEW the exact day before the fact!

“BUT AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE.”

Jesus gave an updated revelation to the church:

“If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee” (Revelation 3:3).


87 posted on 03/20/2011 4:15:30 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

A person who is diligent and aware is always looking out. Always alert to what is happening. Not taking things for granted and not trying to plug in events to preconceived ideas. Blessings.


88 posted on 03/20/2011 4:17:42 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: ReverendJames
Actually, the Rapture is detailed in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, John 14:3 - long before Revelation.

Also, Scripture says when Jesus returns (Rev. 19:18), an army follows Him. The army's members are riding on white horses, and they are clothed in fine linen that is white and clean. In Revelation 19:8, we are told that the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. These are the Church-age Christians who were raptured into Heaven seven years previously.

The Scripture is more than clear that there will be an event in which Christians, both those who have died and those who are still alive, will be taken up to meet Christ and will never again be separated from Him.

And actually the word "Rapture" can be found in the Latin Vulgate so yes, the word "Rapture" is in the Bible. But, since the word "Bible" isn't in the Bible, does that mean that the Bible doesn't exist?

89 posted on 03/20/2011 4:21:58 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: ReverendJames

Do you really believe it will be that cut and dry, and so very apparent????

Okay- Let’s look at the scenario.

A Man comes out of the Middle East and actually brings Peace to the Arabs and the Jews/Israel...In fact all of admire him, think he has all the right qualifications, merits and global advice to finally bring Peace, in fact he brings a *Peace treaty* that is signed for 7 years between the Israeli’s and the Palestinians...

What is the Christian world doing? sitting on thier duffs, saying hmmm... sounds like the Antichrist, but you never know..

That does not make a lick of sense...


90 posted on 03/20/2011 4:22:16 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP; cookcounty

I think verse 47 supports cookcounty’s assertions to “be found busy”.

Be careful of that “you have no oil”, business. The biggest mistake the foolish virgins made when they found they had no oil was to leave the house in search of oil. Hence when they returned(with oil presumably) they weren’t allowed into the wedding. Hence it wasn’t just about “the oil” since the virgins were able to procur some. It would have been better for the “oiless” virgins to have stayed in the house and begged forgiveness of the bride and groom! The message wasn’t just about spiritual prep(the oil), it was about leaving the scene of the impending wedding!


91 posted on 03/20/2011 4:22:23 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Applied Christianity;a study in spiritual fiber optics connecting God's love to man!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

God will protect his children during the Tribulaton. The Tribulation will be visited on the unbelievers. God knows who his children are and where they are. Where the Bible says that we will be caught up to be with Him, where is Yashua heading? To earth. Are we supposedly going to be taken by Him to Heaven and then He returns again? That would make three times He’s come then. No, we will meet him in the air when He comes and always be with Him - as He comes to earth to end the Tribulation.


92 posted on 03/20/2011 4:22:48 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: TaraP

Nope,not really. It’ll be real subtle. People living during WWII thought Hitler the anti-Christ and Mussolini was the little horn. You have to be aware and diligent. Know your scriptures.


93 posted on 03/20/2011 4:24:53 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

bttt


94 posted on 03/20/2011 4:25:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ReverendJames
What part of Scripture indicates that the 144,000, whom God specifically states are 12,000 men from each of the twelve tribes of Israel, are to be allegorized?

Can you cite the part of Scripture which states that the very specific explanation of who these people are isn't to be taken as God described them, but are to be allegorized into actually meaning the church?

Thanks.

95 posted on 03/20/2011 4:25:12 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: ReverendJames

Before 1947, any person thinking the world was ending and Jesus was returning, was based on one devastating event such as a natural disaster or a plague etc...

The Prophetic Clock started with Israel-1947


96 posted on 03/20/2011 4:25:11 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: ReverendJames

Whatever happens, God rules and His will is done.


97 posted on 03/20/2011 4:27:25 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: ReverendJames

Whatever happens, God rules and His will is done.


98 posted on 03/20/2011 4:27:29 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Paved Paradise
Exactly. A man building a ship in the middle of a desert in a world that had never seen rain was most certainly laughed at and ridiculed.

The laughter stopped the minute God shut up the Ark and the rain started.

And the mocking and laughing and scoffing about the Scriptural truth of the return of Christ will come to a screeching halt as well. And very soon.

99 posted on 03/20/2011 4:27:34 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: ReverendJames

You have to be kidding?

With the Internet, Social Media? this would burn like fire on a bale of hay...

Everyone would be facebooking, tweeting, emailing, freepering.

If anyone now heard of a 7 yr peace treaty being enacted between Israel and Palestine it would go global in minutes...

Gazillion hits on Youtube as well...


100 posted on 03/20/2011 4:29:35 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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