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Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)
LDS Church News ^

Posted on 04/01/2011 7:37:54 AM PDT by Paragon Defender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xVw6PsSinI

People around the world now have a new way to learn about Joseph Smith, the founder and first president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. A film called Joseph Smith: The Prophet of the Restoration is now available online, marking the first time the Church has shared a full-length film on the Internet.


TOPICS: Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichristianity; antichristianpap; ctr; cult; falseprophets; inman; josephsmithworship; lds; mormon; prochrist; prochristian; prochristianity; restoration; wolfinsheepsclothing
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A film for friends, lurkers and even the LDS attackers.

I hope you enjoy!

1 posted on 04/01/2011 7:38:01 AM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand begin!


2 posted on 04/01/2011 7:41:36 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: Paragon Defender

It’s only 7:30 AM, way to early to watch sci fi and eat popcorn.
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3 posted on 04/01/2011 7:43:25 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

Does it have the part in there about the planet Kolob and the part where Joe Smith, Jr., sits next to Jesus to determine whether we go to heaven when we die? Huh?


4 posted on 04/01/2011 7:46:38 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: svcw
It’s only 7:30 AM, way too early to watch sci fi and eat popcorn.

It's April Fool's Day!

5 posted on 04/01/2011 7:46:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Paragon Defender
"A film for friends, lurkers and even the LDS attackers Mormon theology debunkers."

There, fixed it.

6 posted on 04/01/2011 7:47:22 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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To: Paragon Defender

thanks PD, it looks like a great film!


7 posted on 04/01/2011 7:49:21 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: SkyDancer

You so crazy!

Don’t you know that any questions you raise about Momonism is an attack?

Also, please don’t bring any proof or facts that these claims are false. That’s just mean spirited. Remember, it’s about feelings, not fact. FEELINGS!


8 posted on 04/01/2011 7:51:21 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: SpringtoLiberty

Yeah, I know. But it’s like 12:30am here (Aussieland), couldn’t sleep, tired. What was I thinking??? Maybe if I got a soft copy of the BOM, used it as a pillow I’d absorb the truth???


9 posted on 04/01/2011 7:54:54 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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To: Paragon Defender
I'll have to view the video later - I'm off to planet Kolob for a little R&R with my main squeeze!


10 posted on 04/01/2011 7:55:35 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: Paragon Defender
The comments are interesting.

This one sums it up - Praise to the Man!

Will lds ever praise Jesus Christ of the Bible?

Instead of Joseph Smith the con artist (nine versions of the first visions), the muck raker (trying to over through the US Constitution), thief (stealing land and property from his followers), the fraud (setting up a bogus bank), the adulterer ("marring" 33 women), the pedophile (taking 14 yr olds as "brides"), the murderer (shoot out at the jail he was in), the flim flam man (peep stone "Bible" translations), the deceiver (bogus Egyptian translations), secret rituals, mysterious ceremonies, polygamy...........

As long as lds worship Joseph Smith and not the Biblical Christ they will be enslaved by lies.

11 posted on 04/01/2011 7:55:48 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: SkyDancer

I’ll let it go this time.

But one more slip up and you get a planet that is only moon sized when you become a spirit baby again!


12 posted on 04/01/2011 7:57:16 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: Paragon Defender

When the title of the thread has in parenthesis “(Real Mormon/LDS)” what is that supposed to mean?

Are there fake Mormons or fake LDS?

Is this a Mormon/LDS only thread?


13 posted on 04/01/2011 7:59:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SpringtoLiberty; SkyDancer

Yep, amazing how when you quote directly from lds sources it is an attack on lds. It is amazing when you provide links to these quotes, it is an attack on lds. It is amazing when you ask any question it is an attack on lds. It is amazing when you compare and contrast Bible to the BoM it is an attack.
Do you think they have a Sunday School class that teaches them that everything is an attack on lds?


14 posted on 04/01/2011 8:00:19 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

Mormons are the elast of my worries, there are several other more dangerous religions who are also political movements to worry about first.

Once we start seeing white shirted tie wearing men on bicycles yelling “Joeseph Smith is great” and blowing themselves up at train stations and forcing Jell-O down the freshly severed necks of the non-believers and making their women wear tents.

Only then I start worrying about the “Mormon Menace”


15 posted on 04/01/2011 8:01:42 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: svcw

Aaah SVCW... king of the Strawman Attackers Gang (SAG)today it would seem...

Do you expect people to believe that we worship Joseph Smith? It takes very little effort to learn otherwise.

You need to look here. You are being misled as is obvious by your worn out propaganda.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/


16 posted on 04/01/2011 8:03:05 AM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)
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To: reagan_fanatic

[ I’ll have to view the video later - I’m off to planet Kolob for a little R&R with my main squeeze! ]

I hear Krypton is a lot nicer, but make sure to bring you SPF 1,000,000,000,000. Because having the sun explode can really give you a bad sunburn.


17 posted on 04/01/2011 8:03:43 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: laweeks

[ Does it have the part in there about the planet Kolob and the part where Joe Smith, Jr., sits next to Jesus to determine whether we go to heaven when we die? Huh? ]

I would rather go to Planet Vulcan to be judged, I think Mr. Spock would be very logical about where to send me after I kick the bucket....


18 posted on 04/01/2011 8:04:49 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: svcw

Actually they watch videos of their leaders that are sent to their wards once a quarter or so. They also watch them at home on the net.

These videos do give marching orders for the “defence” of the cult.

They have a name for these days but I can’t remember what they are.

Most of the indoctrination you’re asking about happens at the college level and at mission training.


19 posted on 04/01/2011 8:05:39 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: Paragon Defender

And once again you refer people to unofficial lds sources, that as we have discussed do not answer questions, which leads me to believe you have never actually looked at these links.
Point out what I posted that was wrong, just pick one. There is documentation for everything I posted, and it has been presented to you hundreds of times.
Just pick one of the things I said and prove it to be wrong.


20 posted on 04/01/2011 8:07:09 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

When the title of the thread has in parenthesis “(Real Mormon/LDS)” what is that supposed to mean?

Are there fake Mormons or fake LDS?

Is this a Mormon/LDS only thread?


Hello there. All LDS threads I create now are open season to all attackers if you choose to do so. The “caucus” designation was shown to be sometimes ineffectual anyway.

The “REAL” designation is my attempt to convey the message that their have been some threads that may have conveyed the message that they were posted by LDS persons when they were not. that’s all.


21 posted on 04/01/2011 8:08:37 AM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)
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To: SpringtoLiberty

That is just creepy.


22 posted on 04/01/2011 8:08:44 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: GraceG
making their women wear tents.

Marrying several and making them dress like extras from Little House on the Prairie is fine though.


23 posted on 04/01/2011 8:09:33 AM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Paragon Defender
SVCW brought up some good points about J. Smith. But of course you can't answer them. Too hard. Much too hard. Might actually require *gasp* thinking up an adequate response! Had to post the same old list-o-links again (that's much easier to do).
24 posted on 04/01/2011 8:14:41 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Paragon Defender

I pray the One true God of all show you the narrow way, through Jesus Christ and no other, to salvation.
And how he spoke of false prophets who bring man-made burdensome yokes like; “celestial marriages”, “baptism of the dead” the necessity of a “recommendation” of any bishop or other man to enter into His divine Grace.
God is eternal, omnipotent , with out beginning or end. There is no other “god-like state or world(s)” we can achieve through man inspired doctrine.
In Matthew 13 Jesus explains clearly where the lost people of the LDS cult are.

Joseph Smith was a thorny weed.

I pray for the souls of those who have been deceived.


25 posted on 04/01/2011 8:16:00 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Obama's idea of hope = remove reason and facts and think like a liberal.)
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To: GraceG

I can see what you mean.

Here’s another way to look at it.

When you say worried I will assume you mean you are worried about threats to the nation. I would agree with you that Islam presents a much more immediate physical threat.

But, how much more important is a man’s, or indeed a Nation’s, soul than his life?

I believe that our eternal souls and the salvation of that soul through Jesus Christ is far more important than our earthly safety and security.

When I see Mormonism through that prism I see the LDS as a far greater threat to America than Islam.


26 posted on 04/01/2011 8:18:55 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The “caucus” designation was shown to be sometimes ineffectual anyway.

Actually, what happened was the LDS/Mormon folks posted an expecially egregious claim about Christ, and tried to protect it from scrutiny with the "Caucus" label. I don't recall the actual thread topic, but it was something crazy, like Christ was brothers with Joseph Smith, or something just as outlandish.

Jim Robinson stepped in and said enough is enough, and that while he's all for the free exchange of ideas, he wasn't going to permit people to publish blasphemy on his board while stifling those who wish to identify it as such. He basically said the LDS folks can post whatever they like, but it won't be protected from criticism by other Freepers.

Funny how even on non-religious matters, LDS supporters can't resiste distortions of the truth.

"Ineffectual?" LOL!
27 posted on 04/01/2011 8:21:59 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Paragon Defender; Jack Hydrazine
Is this a Mormon/LDS only thread?

No. What really happened was this: Paragon Defender got in trouble with Jim Rob for abusing the caucus label to post really inflamatory or controversial stuff without people being able to come in and debate. JR even broke the caucus label on one of Paragon Defender's threads to have a say on the inflamatory stuff PD was saying. JR then took away the Mormon caucus label.

See posts #17 and #158 from this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2650662/posts?q=1&;page=1

(the above was originally a caucus thread, but the title was altered by Jim Rob or the mods)

28 posted on 04/01/2011 8:26:42 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Paragon Defender

Thanks for posting!! I think we will watch it Monday night for Family Home Evening, since this weekend we will be too busy being “indoctrinated” by the General Authorities (as others on this website would call it!) at General Conference. Can’t wait to hear the words of our Prophet!!


29 posted on 04/01/2011 8:35:33 AM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: Paragon Defender

Looked at “promormon”, no answers just a guys blog.


30 posted on 04/01/2011 8:45:30 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

Looked at “answeringantimormons”, no answers, just a guy crying because no one likes him and him trashing the Bible and Christians.


31 posted on 04/01/2011 8:47:31 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

It doesn’t say anything about when the nephite exhibit will open at the Smithsonian.


32 posted on 04/01/2011 8:48:40 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender
Looked at “jefflindsay.com”, no answers here either, just a guy regurgitating lds fluff.
33 posted on 04/01/2011 8:49:20 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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Looked here “lightplanet”, nope no answers here. Just some guys complaining about Christians.


34 posted on 04/01/2011 8:50:52 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

Didn’t look here “mormonwiki”, anything with wiki attached is a waste of time.


35 posted on 04/01/2011 8:51:52 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: svcw

I’ve stopped giving those sites any “hits”. They do not and cannot objectively and truthfully “address” anything.

Their purpose is to sell the doctrine, to convince investigators to convert.

Not to clarify/explain/address it.

They’re not official (sanitized) sources of information, they are the personal observations/opinions of men.

Wait!? Where have I heard that before?


36 posted on 04/01/2011 8:53:50 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Paragon Defender

Looked here “mormonapologetics” stopped reading after the big article about Limbaugh becoming a mormon.


37 posted on 04/01/2011 8:53:56 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

Looked here “fairlds”, just people complaining about Christians, no answers.


38 posted on 04/01/2011 8:56:01 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

Been to both of these sites hundreds of times “scriptures.lds, and lds” no answers there either, just fluff.


39 posted on 04/01/2011 8:57:28 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: SZonian

You got it. It will be the last time I visit unofficial lds sites, with no answers just bashing of Christians and complaining no one likes them.


40 posted on 04/01/2011 9:03:27 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

So what is a REAL Mormon or LDS, PD?


41 posted on 04/01/2011 9:05:34 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: laweeks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E


42 posted on 04/01/2011 10:05:46 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Paragon Defender
I watched the whole thing. My observations are:

A very sugar coated version of what actually occured. No telling of multiple wives, previous history of treasure hunting, no seer stones were shown or magic spectacles. Lots of persecution scenes without ever explaning why they were chased from place to place.

In short, a very deceptive work of fiction. The LDS should be ashamed to present this as a historical piece.

43 posted on 04/01/2011 10:28:21 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Paragon Defender
If I wanna watch a BAD movie I'll watch "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians". Joseph Smith was a swindler, con-man, pedophile, and convicted felon. He was tarred and feathered for hitting on and molesting little girls. He got swift and final vigilante justice for his blasphemous heresy, too. It was well deserved.




44 posted on 04/01/2011 10:31:49 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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45 posted on 04/01/2011 10:35:15 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Paragon Defender

Do you Mormon cultists ever think for yourselves, or do you immediately respond with links to your vile propaganda?

A trained monkey can do as much.


46 posted on 04/01/2011 10:37:31 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: SpringtoLiberty

One of the main reasons Willard, (or any other Mormon politician), will NEVER get my vote.

NEVER.


47 posted on 04/01/2011 10:40:40 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Paragon Defender

Aaaaah paragon defender - worthless poster of links who do not reflect official mormon doctrines. Mind numbed robot of countless brainwashing - effectually mislead by false prophets and teachers.

We await the opening of the nephite exhibit at the Smithsonian

Mormonism cannot promise that your sins will be forgiven.

It is a good thing this is cavated “real mormon/lds”, because it is clearly fake Christianity.

“If a prophet...gives you as sign...and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet....”—Deuteronomy 13:1-3

“I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him...for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.”—Galatians 1:6-8


48 posted on 04/01/2011 11:14:23 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Do you Mormon cultists ever think for yourselves, or do you immediately respond with links to your vile propaganda?

A trained monkey can do as much.


Bahahaha one of the up and coming big posters of vile propaganda calls me out? Too much.

Sorry to break it to you friend but you are the unthinking cult member.


49 posted on 04/01/2011 11:32:34 AM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)
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To: Paragon Defender

Excuse me, I happen to be Roman Catholic.

So don’t get me started on who the ONE TRUE CHURCH really is, OK?

Smith was a charlatan, Brigham Young was a mass murderer, and the Mormons are a diabolical cult spewing blasphemy and heresy.


50 posted on 04/01/2011 11:55:32 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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