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Why is the Muslim World So Resistant to the Gospel?
AlbertMohler.com ^ | April 8, 2011 | Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr.,

Posted on 04/09/2011 10:24:59 AM PDT by wmfights

The future shape of the world appears to be a worldview competition between Christianity, Islam, and Western Secularism. For Christians, both of these worldviews represent real and lasting challenges to evangelism. Neither of these is a particularly new challenge, and the Christian encounter with Islam is now over a millennium in duration.

Writing over thirty years ago, when most American evangelicals had little knowledge of Islam, missiologist J. Herbert Kane of Trinity Evangelical Divinity School outlined six reasons why the evangelization of the Muslim world has been so difficult. His explanation of “Why the Muslim Soil is So Barren” remains both instructive and important.

1. Islam is Younger than Christianity

Having borrowed from both Judaism and Christianity, Islam “has just enough Christianity in it to inoculate it against the real thing.” As with Mormonism, Muslims claim a later revelation that corrects and supersedes the Bible. This represents a very real challenge to the Christian, who will base the argument for the Gospel on the biblical revelation.

2. Islam Denies the Deity and the Death of Christ

Islam not only denies the deity of Christ, it finds the idea abhorrent. “If a missionary but mentions the deity of Christ the fanatical Muslim is likely to spit on his shadow to show his utter contempt for such a blasphemous suggestion.” Furthermore, the Qur’an denies that Christ actually died on the cross, thus taking away the very act of our atonement. “There appears to be no way around these two obstacles,” Kane lamented. “The Christian missionary can find many points of similarity between Christianity and Islam, and certainly he will want to make full use of these; but sooner or later he must come to the central theme of the gospel — the cross. At that point he runs into a stone wall. He can remove many offending things, but he can never do away with the offense of the cross. That and the deity of Christ are hurdles that can never be removed.”

3. Islam’s Treatment of Defectors

“All religions, including the broadest of them — Hinduism — look with disfavor on the devotee who changes his religion,” Kane advised. “But it remained for Islam to devise the Law of Apostasy, which permits the community to kill the adherent who defects from the faith.”

For Islam, “conversion is a one-way street.” Even when death is not a real threat, losing the bonds of community and family are huge costs.

4. The Solidarity of Muslim Society

Even where Muslims are not in a majority, such as in Western nations, they often concentrate in specific areas or communities where this solidarity can be approximated.

Under such an arrangement, efforts by Christians to evangelize meet a unified resistance, and a decision to leave Islam can be construed as an unpatriotic act, tantamount to rejecting one’s nation and people.

5. The Public Practice of Religion

Often overlooked by many Christians is the fact that a faithful Muslim demonstrates that faithfulness in a public pattern of prayers and observances. A convert who ceases these observances becomes immediately evident. This system of public prayer and ritual represents a powerful support for Islam and a powerful deterrent to conversion to any other belief system.

6. The Memory of the Crusades

As Kane explains, “To Christians in the West the Crusades were a bad dream, of which we have only the faintest recollection; but to the Arabs they are the greatest proof of the Christian hatred for Islam.” Christians bear the burden of a long and intensely bitter Muslim memory. Though atrocities were common on both sides, the atrocities committed by Christians were uniquely a repudiation of central Christian teachings.

In the mind of many Muslims, the Crusades feel like a living memory. To many within the Islamic world, Christians remain Crusaders, and evangelism is just another way of continuing the crusading mission.

Professor Kane’s breakdown of these obstacles is not only interesting and helpful, it also serves as a reminder that these issues are hardly new. At the same time, Christians must evangelize, no matter the obstacles to Christian witness.

Christians must remember that the Holy Spirit can break down the greatest wall of resistance and the Word of God is, as He says, like a hammer that shatters a rock. Dr. Kane’s arguments help us to understand the challenge, but were not meant to suppress evangelism. To the contrary, he wanted the church to be better informed as we fulfill the command of Christ.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: evangelism; islam
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Muslim societies are a solidarity, with religion, politics, economics, and personal life all accountable to Islam as a total way of life.
1 posted on 04/09/2011 10:25:00 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

I would ask “why is the world so resistant to the Gospel?”


2 posted on 04/09/2011 10:28:47 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
Ping

I thought this was a pretty good summary. I believe the biggest barriers to successful witnessing to those caught in this counterfeit religion is the question of sin and that muslims are born into this false religion which encompasses every aspect of their life and to leave it means being separated from everyone in your life.

The sin problem is they deny original sin and don't believe in atonement, but believe in a works based salvation that they have no assurance of because their god is arbitrary and never clarifies what is enough.

3 posted on 04/09/2011 10:31:10 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Because the god of islam doesn’t fare too well at the end of the Bible.....


4 posted on 04/09/2011 10:32:38 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: wmfights

I thought I read somewhere about huge numbers of Muslims converting to Christianity.

Anyway, Islam is the only religion that allows and encourages its followers to kill anyone who strays. Heck, they’ll beat you if your beard isn’t long enough for someone’s satisfaction. The element of violence keeps a lot of good people in line who might otherwise seek out something different.


5 posted on 04/09/2011 10:33:06 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: wmfights

Islam denies the Holy Spirit


6 posted on 04/09/2011 10:34:12 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: wmfights

Because the antichrist spirit is present in the world and most of the world rejects the Gospel.


7 posted on 04/09/2011 10:35:48 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: wmfights

For the same reason you (proverbial) are resistant to the teachings of Islam.


8 posted on 04/09/2011 10:36:32 AM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: SuzyQue
I would ask “why is the world so resistant to the Gospel?”

Why do people prefer darkness to light?

I believe it all goes back to the fall. We choose the dark when left to our own desires.

The problem we face with islam is this counterfeit has grabbed hold of 1.5 billion people. They do not choose to be muslims. They are born into it and are not allowed to hear the truth. How do you reach so many people that are so deceived?

9 posted on 04/09/2011 10:37:04 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
Thanks for the ping, wmfights!

Islam was brought to the world by Satan, and those who are enslaved to this belief and it's originator are the epitome of the spiritually dead.

Compounding the fact that almost all of them are doomed for all eternity is the fact that they are at enmity with Israel, have openly expressed their intention to kill every single Jew and drive God's chosen people into extinction, and will remain blinded and hell-bound just for that alone.

10 posted on 04/09/2011 10:38:02 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: SuzyQue

And the Word would reply:

Isa 44:18 They have not known nor understood: for he has shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.


11 posted on 04/09/2011 10:38:13 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Pretty soon everything in this country will be "free", except it's people!)
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To: wmfights
3. Islam’s Treatment of Defectors

To my mind, a necessary characteristic of any true "religion" is that continued belief is voluntary. Someone who believes in Christianity may believe that ceasing to believe would cause him to rot in Hell, but the notion of such punishment would only be relevant to a believer. Further, renouncing one's beliefs may alienate one's friends and associates, but someone who wants to renounce one's beliefs is free to do so and find other people to associate with.

Islam doesn't meet that requirement. Some societies may expel people who renounce their religion, but will bid them "good riddance". Members may reasonably expect that if they wanted to leave the society and establish associations elsewhere would be free to do so. By contrast, a Muslim who decides to openly renounce his religion is apt to be actively hunted down no matter where he goes. Some Muslims may manage to survive, but Islam does certainly does not encourage such expectation.

12 posted on 04/09/2011 10:39:01 AM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: wmfights; TSgt; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; the_conscience; Dutchboy88; ...
The sin problem is they deny original sin and don't believe in atonement, but believe in a works based salvation that they have no assurance

That sure sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Thanks for the ping, William. Excellent article by Dr. Mohler.

Christians must evangelize, no matter the obstacles to Christian witness.

Christians must remember that the Holy Spirit can break down the greatest wall of resistance and the Word of God is, as He says, like a hammer that shatters a rock. Dr. Kane’s arguments help us to understand the challenge, but were not meant to suppress evangelism. To the contrary, he wanted the church to be better informed as we fulfill the command of Christ.

AMEN!!!

13 posted on 04/09/2011 10:39:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: ChocChipCookie
I thought I read somewhere about huge numbers of Muslims converting to Christianity.

This is why there is an increasing level of persecution. The House Church movement is growing and the lost are being saved.

Anyway, Islam is the only religion that allows and encourages its followers to kill anyone who strays.

Most of the false religions do this to varying degrees.

14 posted on 04/09/2011 10:40:38 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Political limits to evangelization in most islamic countries.

Muslims themselves are very open to Christianity.


15 posted on 04/09/2011 10:41:08 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: mom4melody
Because the god of islam doesn’t fare too well at the end of the Bible.....

People don’t fare to well under Islam.

The example of Mohamed on forgivness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206

There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.

The example of Jesus on forgivness (John 8:1-11)

But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."

Robert Spencer does a good job here explaining Islam - Blogging the Qur’an Start at the bottom.

16 posted on 04/09/2011 10:41:51 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: wmfights
7. How they culturally intertwine their religion with all of their lives from an early age. From as soon as they can speak, they practice the Salah, and they do it five times a day, every single day. In their religion and culture, everything they do, from eating to dressing, is tied to their religion. This isn't like witnessing to someone who their religion is just another category in their life.

For a Westerner, our lives are categorized, we have our work life, our personal life, our religious life, and so on. To witness to a Westerner is often like selling someone to a new job. For many who practice Islam, it is like asking them to give up themselves, like cutting off an arm.

A different approach is needed. No, I don't know the answer.

17 posted on 04/09/2011 10:42:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: wmfights

Churchill’s summation of Islam.

Here’s the original:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the infence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


18 posted on 04/09/2011 10:42:29 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: wmfights

Islam rules by the sword. Converting in most of those counties ends your life when it comes to light.

On the other hand, I know of LOTS of fruit being produced in the Muslim world - in those same countries.


19 posted on 04/09/2011 10:44:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: supercat

If one isn’t free to leave, then one isn’t free to believe- it is not faith but compulsion.


20 posted on 04/09/2011 10:44:41 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: F15Eagle
Because the antichrist spirit is present in the world and most of the world rejects the Gospel.

The antichrist spirit is present, as you say, and has always been present.

Everyone wants to know WHO the ANTICHRIST is, and what they don't understand is that everyone has the potential to be 'antichrist'.

When enough people become anti-christ, the battle is over and so , in a sense, the 'end' has come.

Maybe it's already happened. We can't really get a good tally on who's 'good' and who's 'evil' so we will never really know when IT happens. It's not like there will be an announcement.

21 posted on 04/09/2011 10:45:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: wmfights

Because many Muslims believe (and practice) that those who convert from Islam should be killed. I have friends in Islamic countries who are open with me about their non-Muslim status... but they are very careful not to allow such status to get anywhere close to public knowledge locally.


22 posted on 04/09/2011 10:45:36 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: wmfights
The Crusade point is not terribly accurate. Until recently, muslims believed that they had won the Crusades, so didn't care much about them. They had won, and it was just another victory in the expansion of Islam. They only got stopped later when their version of imperial overreach failed at the gates of Vienna.

It's only recently (last 60 years), as a reflection of the idiotic western guilt about the Crusades, that muslims started using the history of the crusades as a propaganda point.

23 posted on 04/09/2011 10:48:48 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: wmfights; ChocChipCookie
Most of the false religions do this to varying degrees.

Heck, we've had religions in the US that kill their own followers.

24 posted on 04/09/2011 10:49:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: TheZMan
For the same reason you (proverbial) are resistant to the teachings of Islam.

To know how those teachings came to be and what they reguire you to believe for them to be considered true is enough to reject them.

islam claims that the koran is a word for word copy of the koran that sits in front of allah in heaven. The words were supposedly given to muhammed by the Angel Gabriel over a 20 yr period. In islam the principle of abrogation is foundational. This belief is that a later revelation supersedes an earlier revelation. If you hold to this belief (which muslims do) then their god can change his mind at anytime and there is no fixed truth, it can always be changed by a later revelation.

25 posted on 04/09/2011 10:50:33 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: F15Eagle

Agreed.... also does seem to be a slow steady lifting away of the Holy Spirit as the west continues to attack Christianity and deny God His rightful place.

Reminds me of when God kept warning Israel to trun back to Him....then He began leaving the temple in slow movements....pausing and speaking as He went to see if they were even paying attention that He was leaving.

God is also taking His hand off America and leaving man to have his own way. We know the ultimate end for this.


26 posted on 04/09/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: wmfights
The reason they are resistant is that muzzies kill anyone that evangelizes them.
27 posted on 04/09/2011 10:53:52 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Anti-Hillary; wmfights

Good answers both.

I think the answer may be very, very simple. Because of the nature of islam, and the way apostates are treated, one has to go against their own survival instinct to turn on islam and move to the light. You have to be very willing to give not only your own life, but that of your loved ones.


28 posted on 04/09/2011 10:56:03 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: caww

If you haven’t listened to John MacArthur’s sermon, “A Nation Abandoned by God,” you should Google it.


29 posted on 04/09/2011 10:56:34 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Teacher317
Because many Muslims believe (and practice) that those who convert from Islam should be killed. I have friends in Islamic countries who are open with me about their non-Muslim status... but they are very careful not to allow such status to get anywhere close to public knowledge locally.

It has been my experience that it is not the everyday Muslims who believe they must kill infidels. It is their LEADERS in their Religion controlled Government who know that if Christianity is allowed to flourish, it would interfere with their POWER BASE. It would eventually lead to separating the POWERS(leaders) of CHURCH and STATE.

The Mullahs absolutely do not want that to happen, and will keep it from happening no matter who they have to kill.

30 posted on 04/09/2011 10:56:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: wmfights

...”then their god can change his mind at anytime and there is no fixed truth, it can always be changed by a later revelation.”

Exactly, but when you attempt to argue this point denial of this truth flows hard and strong. Their minds cannot digest this for if it were to do that then all of Islam could be a lie to them.


31 posted on 04/09/2011 10:57:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: UCANSEE2

The Man of Sin is the particular Antichrist, of course, who will be well-rec’d by those influenced by the (little “a”) antichrist spirit.

He is the one who sits in the temple of God in Jerusalem and declares himself to be “god”:

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (King James Version)

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%202:3-4&version=KJV

And, of course, is the First Beast of Revelation 13:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013&version=KJV

Revelation 13 (King James Version)

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


32 posted on 04/09/2011 10:57:48 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: wmfights

ping islam vs Christianity


33 posted on 04/09/2011 10:57:58 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM FREE AMERICA.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Compounding the fact that almost all of them are doomed for all eternity is the fact that they are at enmity with Israel, have openly expressed their intention to kill every single Jew and drive God's chosen people into extinction, and will remain blinded and hell-bound just for that alone.

What a great point!

In the rewritten Bible of islam it is Ishmael that Abraham is going to sacrifice and it is Ishmael that is given the inheritance.

Islam was brought to the world by Satan, and those who are enslaved to this belief and it's originator are the epitome of the spiritually dead.

You are so spot on.

When muhammed was given the first revelation he fell to the ground in a cave and was foaming at the mouth. He thought he was possessed by a demon and told his wife. She had him talk to monk who convinced him he was a prophet. I think his first thought was correct.

34 posted on 04/09/2011 10:58:23 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Thank you, will do.


35 posted on 04/09/2011 10:58:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: wmfights

Islam is Satan’s invention, and he uses fear to keep his victims in line.


36 posted on 04/09/2011 10:58:37 AM PDT by pallis
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To: mnehring
it is not faith but compulsion.

Their prophet, Mohammed (sp? like I care) RULED by COMPULSION.

37 posted on 04/09/2011 10:58:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: wmfights; Amityschild; ChocChipCookie; F15Eagle; Brad's Gramma; mom4melody; Captain Beyond; ...

http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html

3.... The Quran, the most important of the Islamic holy books, directly tells its followers that they can never change or modify or “modernize” any of the teachings within the idea-collection. It is perfect as it is. It is a capital sin to try to do so. This idea ensures the preservation of the whole collection.

These first three ideas are pretty standard for several successful religions. But now it gets interesting...

4. Islam commands its followers to create a government that supports it. This may be one of the most ingenious ideas in the whole collection. Islam is the only religion that uses it. Other groups of religious people have had political aspirations, but no other major religious group orders its followers — as a religious duty — to create a government that follows its own system of law.

Islam has a system of law, called Sharia, and all Muslims are obligated to continually strive to make their government — wherever they are — follow it. Because of some of the other ideas added to Islam, you will see that this political addition to the idea-collection has significant consequences. Not only is this perhaps Islam’s most brilliant innovation, it is also the most terrifying to non-Muslims. Read more about the political nature of the core doctrines of Islam.

5. Permission to spread the religion by war. This is another brilliant innovation. Although some other religions have spread themselves using force, they had very little justification from their own religious doctrines to do so.

Not so with Islam. Expanding by conquest is very much accepted and encouraged by the idea-collection. Islamic teachings present it this way: The poor non-Muslims not living in an Islamic state need to be saved from the sin of following laws other than Allah’s. If they won’t voluntarily change their laws to Sharia, then it is the duty of Muslim warriors to insist. The world cannot be at peace until every government on earth follows the laws of Allah.


38 posted on 04/09/2011 10:58:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (Understanding the Koran: http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; texmexis best; FatherofFive; mnehring

http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html

3.... The Quran, the most important of the Islamic holy books, directly tells its followers that they can never change or modify or “modernize” any of the teachings within the idea-collection. It is perfect as it is. It is a capital sin to try to do so. This idea ensures the preservation of the whole collection.

These first three ideas are pretty standard for several successful religions. But now it gets interesting...

4. Islam commands its followers to create a government that supports it. This may be one of the most ingenious ideas in the whole collection. Islam is the only religion that uses it. Other groups of religious people have had political aspirations, but no other major religious group orders its followers — as a religious duty — to create a government that follows its own system of law.

Islam has a system of law, called Sharia, and all Muslims are obligated to continually strive to make their government — wherever they are — follow it. Because of some of the other ideas added to Islam, you will see that this political addition to the idea-collection has significant consequences. Not only is this perhaps Islam’s most brilliant innovation, it is also the most terrifying to non-Muslims. Read more about the political nature of the core doctrines of Islam.

5. Permission to spread the religion by war. This is another brilliant innovation. Although some other religions have spread themselves using force, they had very little justification from their own religious doctrines to do so.

Not so with Islam. Expanding by conquest is very much accepted and encouraged by the idea-collection. Islamic teachings present it this way: The poor non-Muslims not living in an Islamic state need to be saved from the sin of following laws other than Allah’s. If they won’t voluntarily change their laws to Sharia, then it is the duty of Muslim warriors to insist. The world cannot be at peace until every government on earth follows the laws of Allah.


39 posted on 04/09/2011 11:01:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (Understanding the Koran: http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: caww

“God is also taking His hand off America”

Our nation’s leaders keep trying to divide Israel - and Jerusalem - this will, eventually of course, happen.

It is one of the key prophecies of the Antichrist.

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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%2011:36-39&version=KJV

Daniel 11:36-39 (King James Version)

36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah%2012:1-3&version=KJV

Zechariah 12:1-3 (King James Version)

1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

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Yes, God is allowing our nation to fall - we are betraying Israel in these End Times - just as prophesied.


40 posted on 04/09/2011 11:01:39 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: wmfights

IIRC, Islam loses about 6,000 each day to Christianity. Their conversion numbers from Christianity are miniscule and are primarily women who marry a muslim.

There is a good deal of evidence that Christianity is eating Islam.


41 posted on 04/09/2011 11:03:37 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: slowhandluke
It's only recently (last 60 years), as a reflection of the idiotic western guilt about the Crusades, that muslims started using the history of the crusades as a propaganda point.

Hmmmm....

It's only recently (last 60 years), as a reflection of the idiotic western guilt about Slavery, that politicians and their negro cronies started using the history of bigotry during the 50's and 60's as a propaganda point.

42 posted on 04/09/2011 11:03:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: UCANSEE2
The Byzantines did not like mooselmbs in their home territories. The gave them the choice convert or leave.
43 posted on 04/09/2011 11:04:47 AM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
...they are at enmity with Israel, have openly expressed their intention to kill every single Jew and drive God's chosen people into extinction, and will remain blinded and hell-bound just for that alone.

Christian evangelism of Muslims must begin with the knowledge that Mohammed is not a prophet but was a thoroughly evil despot. He distorted the truth of the Judeo Christian world in a vain attempt to defeat and assimilate Jews and Christians.

The Crusades were Muslim invasions that were forced back by Christian nations and the Roman church. They were not Christian invasions. Christians never invaded the centers of Muslim nations, only those areas invaded first by Muslims.

The Muslim belief system must be treated for what it is, a thoroughly dark, malevolent, demon centered religion worthy of no respect by genuinely loving people. Until Muslims are confronted with the reality of their personal hell, enforced by their malicious religion, they will not experience their need for the salvation of Christ. More than any other culture of people Muslims stand in terror before their demiurge god. They must confronted by those who know the One True and loving God who stands before all of creation.

44 posted on 04/09/2011 11:04:54 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: Anti-Hillary; SuzyQue

And Satan, the god of this world (temporarily) has blinded their minds - except the Holy Spirit open their understanding, you could preach the Gospel to them for 10,000 days and they would not comprehend it.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%204:3-4&version=KJV

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 (King James Version)

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


45 posted on 04/09/2011 11:06:09 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: texmexis best
Muslims themselves are very open to Christianity.

You make a great point. My perspective changed some when I realized that the vast majority of muslims are people born into this counterfeit religion and never hear the truth. For example, muhammed believed Christians viewed the Trinity as God the Father, Mary, and Jesus Christ. muhammed never had a copy of the Bible to draw on, but was influenced by radical heretics who denied that Jesus is God incarnate.

46 posted on 04/09/2011 11:09:31 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Who is Satan?


47 posted on 04/09/2011 11:13:35 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: TheZMan; wmfights
For the same reason you (proverbial) are resistant to the teachings of Islam.

Such a response may be overly simplistic and naive. Actually, there are other, more specific reasons:

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.” Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”
Qur’an:47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle, smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them…Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

Obsolete verses? That 1400 year old view continues to 2010:
- “Arab and Muslim regimes are betraying their people by failing to confront the Muslim’s real enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Waging jihad against both of these infidels is a commandment of Allah that cannot be disregarded.
- “All Muslims…crucially need to understand that (what) the (Muslim) nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death just as the enemies pursue life.”
- Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Badie, October 2010

"…democracy is…forbidden for Muslims…democracy (is) incompatible with Islam because the Koran insisted Allah was the sole lawmaker… humans have no right to make laws."
(http://www.news.com.au/national/islamist-leader-burhan-hanif-tells-aussie-muslims-told-to-shun-democracy/story-e6frfkvr-1225887784755#ixzz0slho45BW)

48 posted on 04/09/2011 11:13:57 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Islamic and Communist totalitarians share the same goal - global domination via jihad.)
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To: texmexis best

>Muslims themselves are very open to Christianity.<

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With all due respect, I wish that you could give me proof of that.

Having lived in Muslim countries for 25 years, I have never seen evidence that Muslims are even interested in Christianity.

Do you see evidence of it in our free society where any Muslim can pick up a Bible and study it, unhindered by their co-religionists?


49 posted on 04/09/2011 11:14:20 AM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: F15Eagle

Wow. A lot to read. (though I know most of it)

The Antichrist will only be able to take the seat in the temple of God in Jerusalem and declare himself God because a majority of the people have become antichrist.

Also, it is possible that the Antichrist will not be just one person, but a very tightknit group of say, 3 people. Just in what you quoted, there are at least TWO, the Dragon and the Beast. Isn’t there also a harlot?

One of them will be the Leader, as far as the public is concerned, so he could be labeled the Antichrist.

At any rate, the Antichrist (whether one person or several) will have the ‘power’ of all the humans who have become antichrist. I think that is what is being explained by the Dragon giving the Beast power. The Dragon controls the populace, and gives the power to the Beast (making the populace do whatever the Beast wants).

Basically, we agree, don’t you think?


50 posted on 04/09/2011 11:16:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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