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Religious Faux Pas? Most Catholics Use Contraception
LiveScience.com ^ | 4/14/11 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 04/14/2011 8:18:23 AM PDT by Grunthor

Catholic women overwhelmingly use birth control, despite an official ban by the church, a new study finds......

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Humor; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: contraception; nfp; safesex; thisisnotnews; women
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1 posted on 04/14/2011 8:18:29 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Grunthor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-L3JMk7C1A


2 posted on 04/14/2011 8:21:03 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Grunthor
Rumor has it that we are all sinners.

News like this is nothing more than stick with which to beat religious people -- "You're all hypocrites!".

I can look at anyone on the planet (definitely including myself) and say, "You really should be a better person. Why do you do the things which you know are wrong?" This is our lot in life. We try and we fail. The failure does not irrevocably condemn us. There can still be salvation.

3 posted on 04/14/2011 8:23:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Grunthor
The Church needs to make sure everyone KNOWS about the ban. Most 'Catholics' have some vague idea that the Church kinda' sorta' doesn't really like people using it, but hey they can't tell me what to do...

The ban on that stuff needs to be read weekly, from every pulpit. It needs to be made clear to people that using that stuff IS a sin, and they WILL stop if they are to be good Catholics. That they need to toe the line, follow the rules, or keep the heck out of Church until they change their minds and hit the confessional.

4 posted on 04/14/2011 8:23:59 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Rumor has it that we are all sinners”

Not sure what using a condom in and of itself has to do with sinning. Pretty sure that contraception isn’t even mentioned in the Bible.


5 posted on 04/14/2011 8:25:52 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Grunthor
The word "Catholics" in the title should be in quotes.

The Church is not a cafeteria. Many are called, few are chosen.

6 posted on 04/14/2011 8:26:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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Some increased education on how to use natural family planning methods would really help. They are far more effective than the old methods. If correctly instructed, Catholic couples would also see a wonderful improvement in their communication skills. It’s a win, win!

Such training should be a required part of marriage preparation.


7 posted on 04/14/2011 8:27:14 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Grunthor
Not sure what using a condom in and of itself has to do with sinning

Nothing unless it is used in conjunction with sex.

8 posted on 04/14/2011 8:30:36 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Celtic Cross
... keep the heck out of Church until they change their minds and hit the confessional.

How are they going to hear it if they keep out of church? They just have to stop receiving. When Steve & I were doing fertility treatments, I looked for a Hispanic OB/GYN, figuring she'd be Catholic and have some respect for my faith. I did find one, who wondered why I wanted Hispanic (she was actually Filipina) till I explained. She practiced in a group of doctors, some of whom prescribed contraception, but she personally did not, and told me that she knew she could not receive if she did prescribe contraception.

9 posted on 04/14/2011 8:31:04 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: SumProVita
Such training should be a required part of marriage preparation.

It is in the Arlington Diocese.

10 posted on 04/14/2011 8:31:57 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Grunthor
Pretty sure that contraception isn’t even mentioned in the Bible.

Pretty sure you're wrong. Check up on the meaning of the word pharmakeia, often translated as "sorcery". It involved the mixing of potions, almost always for one of two purposes: either as a aphrodisiac or as a contraceptive. Pharmakeia is directly condemned in the NT.

See also Genesis 38. Notice what is specified about Onan's behavior as "wicked in God's sight".

There are good, Biblical reasons why every Christian group rejected contraception prior to 1930.

11 posted on 04/14/2011 8:31:57 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: SumProVita
Contraception: The Bitter Pill
Divorce Rate Comparisons Between Couples Using NFP & Artificial Birth Control

'Amazing Grace for Those Who Suffer'
Natural and Unnatural (father of 5 shocks mother of 1)
NFP — It Ain’t Your Momma’s Rhythm
Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part Two [Open]
Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part One [Open]
Contraception v. Natural Family Planning — Part 5 of 6 [Open]
Journey to the Truth (Natural Family Planning) [Open]
Enslaving Women One Pill at a Time (Birth Control Pills and Natural Family Planning)
New Study Shows Natural Family Planning Technique More “Effective” Than Contraception
Fargo) Diocese set to require pre-marriage course in natural family planning

Making Babies: A Very Different Look at Natural Family Planning
Clerical Contraception (Important Read! By Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer)
(Fargo) Diocese set to require pre-marriage course in natural family planning
Natural Family Planning Awareness Week, July 25, 2004
IS NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING A 'HERESY'? (Trads, please take note)
Thanks Doc: More (and Younger) Doctors Support Natural Family Planning
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Natural Family Planning

12 posted on 04/14/2011 8:32:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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“Not sure what using a condom in and of itself has to do with sinning”.

The bible says, “Be fruitful and multiply”. However, it never said to try to multiply the planet by yourself. In my Mother’s and Father’s day, the Church said to restrict the conception of children in ANY form was against the church. The bottom line is to have a lot of children, a family has to be wealthy OR live in poverty. Every single one of my Catholic women friends use some form of birth control (usually condoms) or sterilization after they had their limit.


13 posted on 04/14/2011 8:32:48 AM PDT by momtothree
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>>>How are they going to hear it if they keep out of church? They just have to stop receiving.<<<

Thats what I meant. I typed out a brain fart.

14 posted on 04/14/2011 8:35:42 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: steve86

OK, that was kinda clever.


15 posted on 04/14/2011 8:35:44 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Grunthor

The problem with contraception is it isn’t just contracepting. The pill is an abortifacient. If the egg is fertilized, the pill prevents it from implanting and the light bleeding that is seen is the fertilized egg being aborted. The IUD does the same thing.

And other forms of BC just aren’t that effective. The Church encourages large famillies, but try enrolling a bunch of children in Catholic schools. The tuitions are exorbitant. The only options for large Catholic families that have small means is to send their children to public schools or to home school.


16 posted on 04/14/2011 8:37:10 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Campion
There are good, Biblical reasons why every Christian group rejected contraception prior to 1930.

Did God change, or did sin?

17 posted on 04/14/2011 8:42:11 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Campion
There are good, Biblical reasons why every Christian group rejected contraception prior to 1930.

Did God change, or did sin?

18 posted on 04/14/2011 8:42:19 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Grunthor

the Church is not a club, political party nor are they running some kind of popularity contest, which must have ideological purity and group consensus.

The Church is simply pointing out God’s Law as it relates to humans. We have free will. Ignore them if you wish, just know that at some point, there will be consequences.


19 posted on 04/14/2011 8:44:53 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: blackdog

I’d wager that 90% of Catholics use some form of artificial birth control.


20 posted on 04/14/2011 8:48:57 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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