Skip to comments.Madonna 'ditches Kabbalah for Opus Dei'
Posted on 04/19/2011 10:22:26 PM PDT by malkee
FOR the past 15 years, she has been Kabbalahs most high profile and dedicated follower. But now Madonna has apparently ditched the controversial faith and taken up with Opus Dei the secretive Catholic sect made famous in The Da Vinci Code. The singer is said to be intrigued by the organisation and spent Friday with priests from the centres London HQ. The move follows her alleged falling out with some Kabbalah leaders after reports that cash raised for her Malawi charity was squandered. Last night a source claimed: She has invested so much into Kabbalah so she was devastated by these damning accusations. She has started exploring different religions. Madonna has always been intrigued by Opus Dei. As yet, shes not a fully paid-up member shes just had informal chats.
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Wouldn’t it be something if she renounced her former life and devoted herself to the Church...that would blow some minds.
Sounds like all the wrong motivations.
when she joins the Westboro Baptists, that’ll be news...
She’ll be a Scientologist when it’s all said and done.
How much do I have to pay to be a believer? Bills, bills, bills.
I thought the Kaballah was somehow related to Scientology
Neither has ability to adhere to coherent value system based on reason.
Both act out of momentary necessity.
Does she realize Opus Dei is very conservative?
I thought the Kaballah was somehow related to Scientology
I thought the Kaballah was somehow related to Scientology
She’s hopping from one cult to the next because there isn’t a single man she hasn’t screwed yet. Either that or there aren’t any left who would want to. Either way, as talentless whores go, she’s now a bag lady.
Kaballah is Jewish mysticism. Not sure what the Hollywood version was but sure it was b.s. There were stories on it being a money racket five years ago.
Scientology is unrelated. L. Ron Hubbard, the science fiction writer, started his own religion. E-Meters and Xenu. Paul Haggis wrote an article bashing it a couple months ago. He was upset it regards homosexuality is a mental illness as his daughters are gay. Plus he won his Oscar and didn’t need it for the business connections.
Agee. By age 75 Madonna will be going to Catholic mass and repenting of her wild past.
Well, the problem is most of us Catholics don’t really want her. I know, I know, God forgives sinners, even the worst and her forgiveness is between her and God. However, the RCIA needs to be done for her again and also, she’s way too flighty on religious matters for me to welcome a repentant person. But, then I would have been among those doubting Alice Cooper when he became Christian and look at him now (ok, don’t look, but read about his Christian life!)
Can’t believe FR missed this one. I always said Madonna would return to the Catholic faith before it was all said and done. We’ll see. “ ==================
Wouldn’t that be something if she did. I deplore much of her behavior, of course, but have always felt sorry for her.
Lost can not be a good place to be no matter her incredible wealth. Opus Dei is quite a swing to a modest lifestyle and behavior.
Dear sir, I respectfully say that you perjure the extremely impoverished by comparing them to the like of Madonna. The rich who have lost their sense of "grounding" are like butterflies who have everything and yet nothing.
One cannot be loved by the world and love GOD at the same time.
She can only server one master.
Hollywood resident here, and I could tell you right now that almost every WHITE person in the city is a Scientologist. I was invited to the Sunset Blvd “church” on the Saturday “mass” and there it was. Then another guy told me weeks later it is because if you are a minority, you will join up with the same kind. I guess it’s true..L.A. is pretty much Tijuana in the most parts.
>Does she realize Opus Dei is very conservative?
Nah, probably learned about Opus Dei from the da Vinci Code movie.
Opus Dei? Secret?
“But, then I would have been among those doubting Alice Cooper when he became Christian and look at him now (ok, dont look, but read about his Christian life!)”
God judges the inward man.
What’s the problem with his “outwards”?
He’s perfectly nice to look at.
I see Madonna as another Ann Rice and we all know how long that reversion lasted.
It can’t be too secretive...I get daily messages and ponderings from Opus Dei in my email.
She can return to the Catholic faith if she wants to, but because she is divorced, she cannot be given Absolution or take part in any Sacraments without approval from the Church.
A friend of mine wanted to go back to the Church and she was divorced and remarried and was told it would take her years to get approval from the Bishop and because her current husband is not a Catholic, she may not get approval anyway...
“If with all your heart you truly seek Me, you shall find Me.”
Problem is, is she really being honest with herself?. IMHO, she is really desirous of finding Him, but being a Christian demands we become humble fools for God. That’s so un PC. She seems to want to work her way to God, on her own terms.
I’d love to see her find Christ. She wants to be on fire for a belief; would’t it be great for her to find a REAL faith.
As far as “talks”, it's quite simple, she has to abandon her old ways, sins of the flesh (heterosexual & aberrosexual). She's never been married in the Church (that I know of), therefore that obstacle does not exist).
She has enough money that she can abandon the whole music scene. Of what I saw of her doing for entertainment in Miami (I would see her here and there during the daylight hours boating and jogging and such) she's not a big spender.
So, anything is possible.
As a Protestant, I would feel the same way. This woman just makes a mockery out of everything she touches.
I think the only good thing one can say about Maddie is that she’s not Lady Googoo ;-:
I do hope it is for sincere reasons though, such as truly wanting to have a deep, full faith.
I think Kaballah has something to do with very mystical form of Judism? Bear with me, I have just gotten up, need plenty of coffee.
God can and does change people. For Madonna, as you said, would have to go through what is left of RCIA, and that takes about at least a year process, besides the life-long discernment as well. In my parish, 3 canidiates are coming into or being recieved into the Church Holy Saturday night.
Madonna’s scroungy inside and out.
Can’t say I’ve got much of a positive opinion of her at all, can I?
Whogives a red rats patoot what the garbage woman believes.
She is mentally ill anyway.
1)You are not a Roman Catholic why do you persist in this lie?
2) This Catholic would welcome any truly repentant sinner. Mary Magdalene was a whore possessed by seven devils, and she became a braver Catholic than all the apostles (prior to Pentecost). Usually it is the repentant worst sinners that make the most steadfast Catholics.
I knew an old pastor that had excellent catechists teaching the faith from his own curricula, not the RCIA template. He was replaced by the bishop, and all the catechists were removed and replaced by people who didn't even qualify as average students. The RCIA is a joke. Better to learn on your own with someone who really knows the faith.
Sigh... bg, here’s one poser I ignore. Any guy who wants to pretend to be traditional Catholic yet doesn’t know that Maronites, Syro-Malabars are Catholic rites, who calls the Church the RCC, who exclusively posts diatribes against Catholics, well.. I waste no time on him. I’d advise you to do the same. Perhaps the troll will go away if ignored by all.
Madonna is involved with a specific cult, the KABBALAH CENTRE run by the Berg family. It is universally denounced by anyone who knows anything about actual Kabbalah, which is mystical knowledge of Judaism.
Kabbala is an ancient Jewish tradition integral to the Torah
Kabbalah: A Brief Definition
By Baruch Emanuel Erdstein
Often referred to as the “soul” of the Torah, the Kabbalah is an ancient Jewish tradition which teaches the deepest insights into the essence of G-d, His interaction with the world, and the purpose of Creation.
Kabbalah teaches the essential Jewish cosmology, integral to all other Torah disciplines. Sometimes called “the Inner Torah” or the “Wisdom of Truth”, it offers a comprehensive overall structure and plan for the universe, as well as a detailed understanding of the particulars of our lives.
The student of Kabbalah is made aware of the personal as well as the collective rectification process and is encouraged to play an active part in it.
.....Tell me, I just read the posts, that is it. I am in overdrive myself right now, busy week, singing next few days, plus being in living stations of the cross. Busy, busy.
Who doubtlessly told her:
It’s not the divorce that is the problem, it is the remarriage.
Her only motivation is publicity. I suggest she try Gnosticism myself.
“She can return to the Catholic faith if she wants to, but because she is divorced, she cannot be given Absolution or take part in any Sacraments without approval from the Church.
A friend of mine wanted to go back to the Church and she was divorced and remarried and was told it would take her years to get approval from the Bishop and because her current husband is not a Catholic, she may not get approval anyway...”
Two different issues here. Divorce does not keep you from the sacraments.
Divorce and remarriage (outside the church and with no annulment) will.
I have said that I’m a Roman Catholic, yet you accuse me now of not being one. Yet, you have NEVER, responded to anyone that asked you if you are a Roman Catholic, a member of the Catholic Church of Rome. Maronites, Melkites, ruthenians are all members of the Roman Catholic Church. You are not. Stop your farce, it’s a big lie.
Madonna is the perfect example of the saying, “Our hearts are restless, Lord, until we rest in Thee”
You consistently elevate your opinions to a status of infallibility. You are wrong and Cronos is “Dead On.” Each ritual Church is more formally “sui juris” Church, which means “its own laws”. Thus the Maronite Catholic Church is a “sui juris” Church that uses the Liturgical Rite that developed from the Tradition of Antioch [which along with Rome and Alexandria, are the 3 major sources of all the Liturgical Families found in the Catholic Church; and Alexandria and Antioch are also the source of the all Liturgies in the Eastern Orthodox Church]. The Maronite Catholic Church, just like the Ukranian Catholic Church, as a “sui Juris” Church has in addition to its own Liturgical Tradition [which is not Roman in the sense directly from Rome], has its own Code of Canon law and its own Hierarachy and governance usually under the leadership of a Patriarch or Metropolitan who and is in Communion with the Church of Rome in that those Churches recogize the Bishop of Rome has having the Primacy by virtue of its connection to the St. Peter, first among the Apostles.
I think there is another city which also became a city of origin for the Eastern rites, or is it just 3? I was thinking of the city that is now Istanbul, for the origins of those Eastern rites that went to what is now Eastern Europe. Any corrections welcome. THANKS!
That is why we pray for them bigtime at this time of the year.
Constantinople, which made the Ukraine and Byzentine rites possible.
I just simply ignore the faith trolls, not worth my time anyways.