Posted on 04/22/2011 2:18:48 PM PDT by Gamecock
LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE) – A local group is taking a stand against sex abuse in the Catholic Church. Concerned Catholics who want to restore integrity say they are appalled the church has not taken more of a proactive approach.
"We've got this black eye because a priest gets convicted or accused of abusing a child," a concerned catholic, Nick Pfeiffer, said. "The archdiocese finds out about it and moves the priest around."
The group says Catholic churches do many great things in the community and they just want the Archdiocese to fight to keep children safe in the church.
It isn’t worth responding to the disingenuous claptrap of a
creep pretending to “care” about Catholic children while the only thing evident is the attempt to scrape a sore raw on Good Friday.
Nice.
Just for the heck of it I entered “Teachers arrested for sexual abuse” into Google. I got a great many hits, most rather current.
I am surprised that according to many sexual abuse only happens amongst Catholic clergy. Sexual abuse by anyone is wrong, wrong, wrong and indefensible. So if the concern is over the abuse you would expect to see articles covering abuse no matter who the abusers were or are.
But the concern seems to be focused on the Catholic clergy and the Church. I have to conclude the fact it is Catholic clergy matters more than the abuse itself to some people.
What does this say about really caring about the victims?
But the article DOES give concrete information that there are actually Catholics who recognize the problem and insist that something be done about it.
That puts them at a level much higher than your average FRoman (and non-Latin rite) Catholic.
Sure seems that way.
Not much different than those who would use the death of our Lord to manipulate the behavior of others.
Not much different than those who would use the death of our Lord to manipulate the behavior of others.
Have a good Good Friday, too.
Glad your eyes were opened.
The difference here, and the point of this story is that Catholic Priests who raped children were simply moved to another unsuspecting diocese.
99.8% of Evangelical/Protestant ministers who were caught had their ordinations removed and turned over to the proper authorities.
I just watched “The Passion of the Christ,” and saw Jesus pretty much shredded to death. It was an amazingly well-done film (my first viewing), and a positive way to spend “Good Friday.” Have you seen the movie?
Incredible, amazing, unimaginable love.
“The Archdiocese of Louisville was especially hard hit by the sexual-abuse scandal that exploded worldwide in 2002 and 2003.
The archdiocese paid nearly $30 million in settlements and other costs after more than 250 people brought claims either in court or directly to church officials.
In all, more than three dozen priests and other church workers, living and dead, were accused of abusing children as far back as the late 1940s.
Five current or former priests were convicted of abuse, as were two former Catholic schoolteachers.
“This thing is not over,” said Shannon Whelan, of the local chapter of Voice of the Faithful, a group of lay Catholics that organized following the scandal to press for church reforms.
“I am extremely grateful that the diocese is taking positive action, and they are being more transparent,” she said. “That’s a good indication that we can move through this.”
“But we still have not seen nationally anything that suggests that the bishops that were really the foundation behind the problem, that anything has occurred to them,” she added. “We had some sick priests.”
...2009
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2009/07_08/2009_07_30_Smith_StIgnatius.htm
David M. Jarboe Jr.
23-year-old David Jarboe alleged sexual abuse on the Internet before shooting himself in front of a Catholic church in Feb, 2011.
The Diocese of Owensboro, Kentucky, promised to seek an independent investigator.
Jarboe wrote that abuse in the church is "real" and that he hoped to "save at least one child from the pain and torment that I had to go through," the Louisville Courier-Journal reported.
David Jarboe's funeral...
You wrote:
“suggest you acquaint yourself with the facts then come back.”
I suggest you become acquainted with the facts. No ones faith was being assaulted. Assaulting their faith is what you do to Catholics here. No victim is being blamed for the sexual assaults on them. None. And also, I was right about how pay outs are paid for.
I have been right all along. You have been wrong all along. Get used to it. It isn’t going to change. Since you apparently choose to ground yourself in bigottry and sciolism, it isn’t going to change.
I think all Catholics who are conscious recognize there's a problem and insist that something be done about it.
That puts them at a level much higher than your average FRoman (and non-Latin rite) Catholic.
I don't know anyone like that. I do know FR Catholics who are tired of being beaten over the head with this issue by people who make no secret of their hatred for the Catholic Church. Their "concern" and "outrage" is bogus; the abuse situation is merely the cudgel that works the best today.
Hi Annie. Thanks for the comment! And I am in full agreement with you. When Mary had the flashbacks to when Jesus was small and fell, to his current falling with the Cross and her running up to him ... oh boy, I didn’t think I’d be able to endure too much more of that scene, but then Jesus said something to the effect of, “See Mother, I make things new again,” and I could breathe again. The movie was cast so very very well.
You wrote:
“But the article DOES give concrete information that there are actually Catholics who recognize the problem and insist that something be done about it.”
That’s every Catholic I have ever met. You do realize that your comments are making you look stupid, right?
“That puts them at a level much higher than your average FRoman (and non-Latin rite) Catholic.”
At a “level much higher”? WHat on earth does that mean? Every single Catholic I have EVER seen in FR has said they “recognize the problem and insist that something be done about it” so your comment can only be taken as ignorant nonsense by anyone who is even remotely aware of reality. The way anti-Catholic bigots try to mask their bigotry as phony concern for people or as plaudits for do-gooders who usually turn out to be nothing but leftist shills is pathetic and telling.
“I have been right all along”.
The insurance companies will pay out their contractual limits and then judgments against the dioceses come out of diocese assets.
But where did the diocese get it's assets? From the contributions of parishioners, whether by donation, fund raising, CSA, whatever.
Who donates to keep parish churches operating? But when they close and are sold the money is returned to the parishioners.
“No ones faith was being assaulted. Assaulting their faith is what you do to Catholics here”
The victims disagree.
Intimidation of the victims of the abusers by the hierarchy was tried too but it failed.
You wrote:
“Vladi, vladi, charges of sciolism and bigotry intimidate no one, nor does your self proclaimed correctness:
“I have been right all along”.”
My charges of sciolism and bigotry are obviously true - as you so readily prove.
“The insurance companies will pay out their contractual limits and then judgments against the dioceses come out of diocese assets.”
And that still isn’t about donations at the parish levels. I have been right all along. Most donations at the parish level never go beyond the parish. Again, I was right all along.
“But where did the diocese get it’s assets? From the contributions of parishioners, whether by donation, fund raising, CSA, whatever.”
Some, yes. But the vast majority of payouts have been insurance based and NOT from donations. Some bishops have even made this clear to their parishoners. Again, I was right all along.
“Who donates to keep parish churches operating? But when they close and are sold the money is returned to the parishioners.”
Insurance companies have paid most payouts. That’s just a fact.
“The victims disagree.”
No, they don’t. I have never once heard any victim say anything that sounds like, “My faith in the resurrection (or Eucharist, or virgin birth, etc.) was assaulted.” What some victims have said is that they lost their faith because of their victimization. Losing faith because of a trauma is nowhere the same as having your faith assaulted.
“Intimidation of the victims of the abusers by the hierarchy was tried too but it failed.”
There are a few cases where such things happened. A few. Always wrong, and thankfully very rarely did this happen and mostly DECADES AGO.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.