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Easter greeting from Israel
Toffee VeHa-Gorillah ^ | September 25, 2010 | Toffee

Posted on 04/25/2011 10:33:16 AM PDT by RJR_fan

So many American Christians support Israel and all things Jewish. HERE is a peek at how these objects of our tender solicitude regard us.


TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Humor; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: antisemite; bs; troll; zot; zuluoscartango
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1 posted on 04/25/2011 10:33:20 AM PDT by RJR_fan
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To: RJR_fan

It’s always dumb to pick one example and hold it up as representative of an entire people. You can find jew-hating “baptist” websites out there. But they don’t represent all baptists. Google ranks such sites highly because they want to denigrate all Christians.

Do you like Ron Paul by any chance?


2 posted on 04/25/2011 10:37:35 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: RJR_fan

Yes, I saw this last week. Is this a popular show? The production values are crap. Are you sure this isn’t a Hamas (or equivalent) provocation or some?
It seems so, uh, jejune.


3 posted on 04/25/2011 10:41:09 AM PDT by Bill W was a conservative (Profile, detain, interrogate, deport.)
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To: RJR_fan

I’m sure conservative Jews where revealing bikini top on TV. Where is the BS Meter? I think it will be maxed out.


4 posted on 04/25/2011 11:01:24 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
It’s always dumb to pick one example and hold it up as representative of an entire people.

Excellent point. As this other link demonstrates, not all have the gift of saving faith -- and those who have not been touched by God's kindness live in very dark, sarcastic places. We forget sometimes just how ugly things, and people "out there" can be.

5 posted on 04/25/2011 11:09:02 AM PDT by RJR_fan ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: RJR_fan

This garbage is 8 MONTHS old. Why did you feel the need to post BS now?

Who is RJR?


6 posted on 04/25/2011 11:09:55 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Marty62

a troll?


7 posted on 04/25/2011 11:13:18 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: RJR_fan
This public-access/college TV nonsense is about as representative of general Israeli opinion as a San Francisco performance artist is of mainstream U.S. thought.

Nice try though.

8 posted on 04/25/2011 11:20:04 AM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: RJR_fan
And I'm sure that Westboro Baptist church is representative of all Baptists.... /s

Go away troll.

9 posted on 04/25/2011 11:21:07 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: the_daug

Thought so. Just a little to obvious.


10 posted on 04/25/2011 11:23:34 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: the_daug; RJR_fan
Where is the BS Meter? I think it will be maxed out.


11 posted on 04/25/2011 11:24:29 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RJR_fan

We don’t support Israel because they like us. We support Israel out of obedience to God.

Will Wallace


12 posted on 04/25/2011 11:29:21 AM PDT by will of the people
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To: RJR_fan; left that other site; oldteen; ConorMacNessa

Is this the same BS video RJR_Fan posted on the prayer for Jerusalem thread and that the mods pulled a couple times?


13 posted on 04/25/2011 11:45:39 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: will of the people

“We support Israel out of obedience to God.” Amen to that. If Jesus walked the earth again, the world would still crucify him all over again. Mankind still has a fallen nature, be they “Jew” or “Gentile”. And when it is all said and done, Jesus is still Lord! Amen.


14 posted on 04/25/2011 11:47:14 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Marty62
This garbage is 8 MONTHS old. Why did you feel the need to post BS now?

In all honesty, I'm not "trolling." I just encountered these links this week, and was stunned by the vitriol directed against my Savior. It was a bit of a wake-up call. We are told to hate Muslims, and, true, some Muslims do nasty things around the world. Yet, Muslims treat Jesus with respect. When The Passion of the Christ was screened in Istanbul, the audience wept.

Are we so insulated that we are unaware of the passionate hatred the godless folks right under our noses have for all that we cherish most?

Question: How do we get from point A to point B? How can we live in such a way as to keep this BS from gaining any traction? I really would appreciate FReeper advice and suggestions on these issues!

Thanks.

15 posted on 04/25/2011 12:17:30 PM PDT by RJR_fan ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: RJR_fan
Yet, Muslims treat Jesus with respect

Sure they do. That's why they burn Bibles and Churches.

If you ask a muslim if the believe in Jesus, they will likely say yes. But they are talking about the muslim version of Jesus (whom they call Isa). This Muslim version of Jesus was a Muslim Prophet teaching about the ways of Allah. He never died on the cross. The Muslim Jesus will also return with the 12th Imam/Mahdi and help destory the infidels (Christians and Jews).

Yeah, they respect and believe in the same Jesus. Sure.

16 posted on 04/25/2011 12:33:03 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RJR_fan
and was stunned by the vitriol directed against my Savior.

Uh huh. You just HAPPENED to be 'shocked' by it here, but you somehow didn't notice that it's Muslims, communists and others who direct the most vitriol against Christianity? They do it constantly. You can't miss it. You hear about Muslims burning churches and killing Christians all the time, and communists banning the Bible and other such stuff. How often do you hear about Jews doing such stuff? I mean, c'mon. You have an agenda. It's obvious.

Antisemitic troll.

17 posted on 04/25/2011 12:42:41 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RJR_fan

Actually I tried to read what she was saying, and I think it’s a send up of of some Jew’s paranoia about Christian proselytizing. Besides, it’s hard to any message seriously when it is delivered by a girl in a bikini.


18 posted on 04/25/2011 12:49:18 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: RJR_fan

Your premise is unbelievably naive.

You obviously have not been paying attention to current events. Christians being murdered in their Churches in Egypt. Christians attacked in Iran and Iraq.
Some American Antisemite or Hamas troll, spreads lies and filth and you fall for it.
How did you just come upon this last week? Not buying it.

Do you think that if the Islamofascist had control over Jeruselem Christian pilgrims would be allowed to visit the shrines devoted to Christ. Hardly. You have no idea how much the Muslims hate you as an infedel. As a Christian (?) then you should be very well aware of what GOD has to say about his people.
Or are you one of those that believe God made a mistake by having Mary, a Jewish maiden giving birth to and raise
his Son.
Your Islamofascist defense is an offense to every family that has lost a son or daughter fighting against the greatest evil the world has ever seen.


19 posted on 04/25/2011 1:04:36 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Marty62; oldteen; left that other site
I checked RJR_Fan's posting history. Just on the first page of his posting history he calls Israel an "experimental, socialist, Jesus-hating nation," and said in another post that people have an "obsession with Israel," that is "unhealthy, morbid, and harmful to their testimony and to the reputation of the Gospel." He also started a thread back in February calling Jerusalem and Israel a whore:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2668689/posts
20 posted on 04/25/2011 1:16:09 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Marty62
Granted, Islam is evil. It is, in fact, one of the two most stubborn enemies of the gospel still standing. Older Freepers remember growing up in the Dr. Strangelove world of possible instant annihilation. The menace of communism came from out of nowhere to seize control of 1/3 of the earth's people in less than 70 years. Then, God pulled the leash, and this menace evaporated almost overnight. Today, Russian school kids study the Bible.

Two major-league foes of the Gospel remain: Islam, and secular humanism. If God kindly took down either or both of these colossi, would we be ready to fill the vacuum?

To reiterate, the sheer vitriol in those clips caught me by surprise. I have secular and Muslim friends, and display a "live and let live" attitude towards the religions they use to guide their lives. I want to see them saved, and endeavor to present the Gospel as the better way. Apparently, though, tolerance is a one-way street!
21 posted on 04/25/2011 1:43:59 PM PDT by RJR_fan ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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Two major-league foes of the Gospel remain: Islam, and secular humanism

Don't forget communism/socialism. Large parts of the world are still under communist influence and these countries make life hard for Christians (China, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Vietnam, and etc.).

the sheer vitriol in those clips caught me by surprise.

Oh sure. If you want to see vitriol you should listen to clips of Muslims talking about infidels and the nation of Israel. But then again, I don't think you really care about that, you just want to cherrypick beause you have an antisemetic agenda.

22 posted on 04/25/2011 1:58:16 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Thanks for the info!


23 posted on 04/25/2011 5:43:16 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: RJR_fan; TheOldLady; 50mm; Dark Wing
Antisemitic troll gets the ZOT.


24 posted on 04/25/2011 6:53:02 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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25 posted on 04/25/2011 6:53:45 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RJR_fan; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
RJR_fan ZOT!

To be added or removed from the VK/ZOT list, FReepmail Darkwing104.

26 posted on 04/25/2011 7:26:31 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; 50mm; left that other site
And let the Church say AMEN!!!



Lamh Foistenach Abu!
27 posted on 04/25/2011 7:35:14 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl; RJR_fan
"We support Israel out of obedience to God.”

Could you please cite that command of God to us from the Bible?

If Jesus walked the earth again, the world would still crucify him all over again.

Really? Are you really that ignorant of the Bible?

Note to RJR_Fan: The American Religion venerates anything Israel while simultaneously showing no love for our LORD or the Church. Note here that Colorado Cowgirl actually admits that if given the chance that she would murder Jesus Christ in the most inhumane way, and then says "Jesus is Lord!" (James 1:8)

28 posted on 04/25/2011 7:39:30 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: RJR_fan
Never dance with the kitties, RJR!


29 posted on 04/25/2011 7:40:22 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: RJR_fan

30 posted on 04/25/2011 7:42:22 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RJR_fan; 50mm; darkwing104; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; paulycy; humblegunner; Allegra; ...
RJR_fan, concern troll, is ridden out of town on an electric rail

ZOT!


Take a hike, loser.

31 posted on 04/25/2011 7:42:33 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: RJR_fan

They answer to God, not us.

We are not to hate anyone but show the love of Christ to all.

I don’t know who you’re listening to who told you to hate but it doesn’t square with Jesus’ message that says to love your enemy, pray for your enemy and do good to those who despitefully use you.


32 posted on 04/25/2011 7:48:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...

ping


33 posted on 04/25/2011 7:49:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: The Theophilus; Colorado Cowgirl; Religion Moderator
Note to RJR_Fan: The American Religion venerates anything Israel while simultaneously showing no love for our LORD or the Church. Note here that Colorado Cowgirl actually admits that if given the chance that she would murder Jesus Christ in the most inhumane way, and then says "Jesus is Lord!" (James 1:8)

She said no such thing.

34 posted on 04/25/2011 7:54:06 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 50mm

That’s a painful looking zot right there!


35 posted on 04/25/2011 7:55:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RJR_fan
I have secular and Muslim friends, and display a "live and let live" attitude towards the religions they use to guide their lives. I want to see them saved, and endeavor to present the Gospel as the better way.

Congratulations. You contradicted yourself in consecutive sentences. But since you appear to be gone now, it may not matter as much to you.

36 posted on 04/25/2011 7:55:46 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Works for me.

Some such hostilities toward the apples of God’s eye have been around FR quite long enough, imho.

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has declared HIS sentiments toward Israel.

Those disagreeing with God . . .

obviously lack some kind of perceptiveness if not cognitive skills in some sub-sections.

When God says He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel . . . I don’t think HE could have made it any plainer.


37 posted on 04/25/2011 7:56:32 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RJR_fan
Donate to Free Republic!!

38 posted on 04/25/2011 8:04:28 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: metmom

Incredible.

Why are we not that surprised at those posting such hideousness.

They have frequently essentially asserted that the Church has 100% replaced Blood Israel as God’s Chosen.

Evidently Scripture’s simple assertions about God’s choosing of and loving Israel . . . are just too clear to be comprehended by some biases.


39 posted on 04/25/2011 8:06:47 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ConorMacNessa
And let the Church say AMEN!!!

AMEN!

40 posted on 04/25/2011 8:06:57 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: 50mm

Loling at the graphic!


41 posted on 04/25/2011 8:08:14 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RJR_fan

Is it possible that the differing eschatological view of Israel that premill Christians have has gotten so irritating that you picked a stupid video to make a point?


42 posted on 04/25/2011 8:11:16 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Quix
When God says He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel . . . I don’t think HE could have made it any plainer.

And He doesn't change either. Boy are the muzzies and other Jew-haters gonna be in for it later! They have made enemies with the God who made the galaxies! Woe is them!

43 posted on 04/25/2011 8:11:27 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Well put.

Thx.


44 posted on 04/25/2011 8:13:59 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

“If Jesus walked the earth again, the world would still crucify him all over again.”

Um, NO! The world might try. In fact, they WILL try. But last time He came as the Lamb. This time, He comes as the Lion.

Pity the fools who try to crusify the Lion. It ends badly for them. As in Eternally Badly. So while they are our enemies and follow the Enemy, still pity them. For eternally means just that - forever.


45 posted on 04/25/2011 9:18:33 PM PDT by piytar (Talga Vassternich)
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To: 50mm
Is it just me or are the Zots really increasing in frequency lately? It seems the leftists are having a total and uncontrollable meltdown.


46 posted on 04/25/2011 9:18:45 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: will of the people

“We don’t support Israel because they like us. We support Israel out of obedience to God.”

Thread Winning Post.


47 posted on 04/25/2011 9:21:07 PM PDT by piytar (Talga Vassternich)
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To: The Theophilus
Why, just off the top of my head, would God say that those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed if He didn't want people to support Israel?

The American Religion venerates anything Israel while simultaneously showing no love for our LORD or the Church.

Since the core of support for Israel (other then the support among Jews) is devout evangelicals, your assertion seems silly on its face.

Note here that Colorado Cowgirl actually admits that if given the chance that she would murder Jesus Christ in the most inhumane way

She said no such thing. I'm pretty sure there's something in the Bible about bearing false witness. Look it up.

48 posted on 04/25/2011 9:23:46 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Quix

Yes, God will keep every promise He made to the Jews as well as those He made to the Church. We haven’t replaced Israel.


49 posted on 04/25/2011 9:26:45 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Yes, God will keep every promise He made to the Jews as well as those He made to the Church. We haven’t replaced Israel.”

It’s sometimes shocking how many people don’t get that. God doesn’t resort to “abrogation” (cf islam). He doesn’t replace one promise with another. His Word - IOW Him - is truth. All of it. Old, New, ALL of it. After all, if that weren’t true, He wouldn’t be God. Which incidentally is proof that “Allah” isn’t.


50 posted on 04/25/2011 9:33:17 PM PDT by piytar (Talga Vassternich)
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