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Priest stole $1m from church for male escorts....
MailOnline ^ | 28th April 2011

Posted on 04/29/2011 4:06:03 PM PDT by Gamecock

Full title: Priest stole $1m from church for male escorts.... and designer clothes… but won't have to pay it back and could serve again

A Catholic priest who stole more than $1 million in church money and spent it on male escorts, Armani clothes and nights out at gay bars has been jailed for three years.

But the priest from Connecticut could be allowed to continue serving as a priest after he has served his sentence, according to his former church.

Father Kevin Gray, 65, the former pastor of the Sacred Heart Parish, Waterbury, was sentenced to prison on Wednesday. He had entered a plea of no contest.

He had used the money to pay for a lavish lifestyle, which included owning a secret flat in New York, which he shared with a man who he paid to go to Harvard University.

Prosecutors said Gray will not have to pay back the money because the Diocese of Hartford did not ask for restitution.

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Jailed: Father Kevin Gray was sentenced to three years for stealing more than
$1 million in church money, which he spent on male escorts and designer clothes
1 posted on 04/29/2011 4:06:09 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Creep, send him to prison.


2 posted on 04/29/2011 4:07:23 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Gamecock

and the catholic church wonders why the flock flees...because there are wolves in their midst.


3 posted on 04/29/2011 4:09:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Gamecock
Well Ladies and Gentlemen...
You are looking at the TRUE definition of an Atheist.
That is a real atheist.

That is a man who would spit in the eye of God. It doesn't get more atheist than that.

4 posted on 04/29/2011 4:11:04 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Sacajaweau
Ummmmmm...the Church is growing.
5 posted on 04/29/2011 4:11:19 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; Quix; Alex Murphy; metmom; Dr. Scarpetta
From the article: He had used the money to pay for a lavish lifestyle, which included owning a secret flat in New York, which he shared with a man who he paid to go to Harvard University.

This guy is a real Father Flanagan.

6 posted on 04/29/2011 4:12:32 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock
Southern Baptist music minister charged with molesting 10-year-old

Spencer Bibbs employee, music minister accused of fondling student in classroom

7 posted on 04/29/2011 4:13:57 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: 240B

I would say, he’s an agent of the devil sent to try to destroy the Church from within.


8 posted on 04/29/2011 4:15:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: verga
Southern Baptist music minister charged with molesting 10-year-old Spencer Bibbs employee, music minister accused of fondling student in classroom

http://www.pnj.com/article/20110421/NEWS01/104210320/1006/Teacher-charged-molesting-10-year-old-girl

forgot the link

9 posted on 04/29/2011 4:15:17 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Sacajaweau

the other priest will continue as a priest???


10 posted on 04/29/2011 4:15:56 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Where is the Great Santini NOW when we need him?)
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To: Gamecock

I’m starting to wonder whether the gay movement purposefully infiltrated the church in order to destroy it from within.


11 posted on 04/29/2011 4:17:16 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Gamecock

exactly the reason I left the church! Oh, and of course all those child molestations and all the cover ups that followed


12 posted on 04/29/2011 4:17:35 PM PDT by rjsclassics (bringing people together)
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To: Gamecock
Father Kevin Gray, 65,

Born during the post WW_II baby boom era, the beginning of a TV in every home era, and the abandonment of religious ethics era.

There was (and is) a lot to learn from that era. I'd call it hard way learning.

13 posted on 04/29/2011 4:22:48 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: starlifter; Sacajaweau
Ummmmmm...the Church is growing.

Oh really now?

The Hidden Exodus: Catholics becoming Protestants

14 posted on 04/29/2011 4:24:17 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: dfwgator
Well, it is one thing to be an Atheist and leave it alone.
That doesn't really bother me.

But, to come into the community of G-D, and then betray him...wow, better to just stay away from it. That is one brave guy.

As Dante himself would say...
That is the Ninth level.

No stop signs, or speed limit. Ain't nothing going to slow me down. Like a wheel... gonna spin it. Ain't nothing going to mess me around. Hey! Satan! payed my dues. I'm my way to the promised land....

15 posted on 04/29/2011 4:24:53 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: starlifter

Without immigration, you would be declining. Per pew, a third of those who are raised Catholic leave the faith.


16 posted on 04/29/2011 4:24:53 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: verga

Unlike so many Catholic Priests, this guy has been charged. Not moved to another diocese to rape other boys and girls.


17 posted on 04/29/2011 4:26:04 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock

“But the priest from Connecticut could be allowed to continue serving as a priest after he has served his sentence, according to his former church. ...

Prosecutors said Gray will not have to pay back the money because the Diocese of Hartford did not ask for restitution.”

WHAT???


18 posted on 04/29/2011 4:29:24 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Gamecock

He thinks he’s got trouble now, just wait until the IRS gets hold of him.


19 posted on 04/29/2011 4:29:56 PM PDT by BlueDragon (tonto he got smart said listenkimmosabe, kissmyass I boughtaboat, I'm headedout to sea)
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To: Teflonic

“I’m starting to wonder whether the gay movement purposefully infiltrated the church in order to destroy it from within.”

Yes.


20 posted on 04/29/2011 4:30:29 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Gamecock

If this man doesn’t repent and leave his office, it’d be better for him if he had never been born. I pity this fool and am ashamed of a body of (cough) believers that wouldn’t excercise discipline on this reprobate.


21 posted on 04/29/2011 4:30:40 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Gamecock

A million bucks...three years living on somebody elses dime?
Such a deal! Better than union scale!


22 posted on 04/29/2011 4:37:12 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: rjsclassics

“exactly the reason I left the church! Oh, and of course all those child molestations and all the cover ups that followed”

Log and eye...
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm


23 posted on 04/29/2011 4:38:28 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Gamecock

“This guy is a real Father Flanagan.”

You piqued my interest. Please expand? Thanks.


24 posted on 04/29/2011 4:40:02 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Teflonic
I’m starting to wonder whether the gay movement purposefully infiltrated the church in order to destroy it from within.

Without a doubt.

25 posted on 04/29/2011 4:42:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Teflonic

“I’m starting to wonder whether the gay movement purposefully infiltrated the church in order to destroy it from within.”

Yes. That’s what the recent history from the sixties tell us. Hillary - her Methodist Pastor - Alinskey. It happened to ALL Churches, in fact, ALL institutions. To keep posting stuff like this is not taking the log out of their own eye but also defaming the Catholic Church which only aids and abets the Marxist/Islamist movement. I could post all day about Protestant Pastors but for what reason? They’re already caught and will be punished which is the more important.


26 posted on 04/29/2011 4:46:13 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: dfwgator

It would explain a lot...gay priests feel it is their civic duty to molest children in order to give the church establishment they despise a bad name. Whenever such stories come out the blame should be focused on homosexuality not the church!


27 posted on 04/29/2011 4:47:44 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Teflonic
Two former Communists, Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson, spoke on Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future "you will not recognize the Catholic Church," Dodd also asserted that:

"In the 1930's, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within."

"Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism."

Manning Johnson, a former Communist Party official and author of "Color, Communism and Common Sense" testified in 1953 to the House un-American Activities Committee regarding the infiltration of the Catholic Church:

"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin ... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through infiltration of the (Catholic) Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions (Europe also had its cells) and the religious make-up peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes This policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."

As a radio talk show host and avid listener to talk radio in Boston, I've listened intently to comments by Catholics as the crisis has unfolded. Much has been said regarding the left dominance of the seminaries and a prevalence of the ideas of "liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates. Establishment organs, such as the Boston Globe, continue to wring their hands over the homosexual activities of priests while supporting a homosexual agenda everywhere else. Hopefully, the Catholic flock will wake up and sweep the corruption out of their church in the same way that their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, swept the moneychangers out of the Temple.

Page URL: http://www.chuckmorse.com/communism_catholic_church.html Host Web site: http://www.chuckmorse.com

28 posted on 04/29/2011 4:53:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Gamecock

More springtime of Vatican II.


29 posted on 04/29/2011 4:53:34 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Gamecock; All

“Unlike so many Catholic Priests, this guy has been charged. Not moved to another diocese to rape other boys and girls.”

I’d advise your little leftie self to read each story in the following Protestant site before making a total fool out of yourself...
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm

You don’t act like a Protestant or a Catholic.

Who are you?

Who are your followers?


30 posted on 04/29/2011 4:53:34 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: verga

You are pathetic.

You try and justify what a Preist did by posting about a Baptist doing it also?

What’s next? Finding a Jewish Rabbi?

Don’t answer that. I know your type - and the real motivation for playing these “they do it too!” games.

It’s still pathetic.


31 posted on 04/29/2011 5:01:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (What other people think of you is none of your business.)
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To: Gamecock
Restore the Holy Inquisition!


32 posted on 04/29/2011 5:02:37 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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Prosecutors said Gray will not have to pay back the money because the Diocese of Hartford did not ask for restitution.

WHAT? At the very least they should do whatever is legally possible to take everything he owns. How will the Diocese justify asking their parishioners to give when they do not take action against theft?
33 posted on 04/29/2011 5:02:42 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: rjsclassics

Really? Sure it wasn’t too much for you actually learning the facts and not using your intelliect having to do with your “that is why I left the Church”?


34 posted on 04/29/2011 5:14:29 PM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: starlifter
Ummmmmm...the Church is growing.

Only because of babies..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2707937/posts

35 posted on 04/29/2011 5:18:24 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: bronxville

Pathetic attempt to justify sodomizing little altar boys


36 posted on 04/29/2011 5:20:15 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Ummmmmm...the Church is growing.

Only because of babies..

Standing applause. Perhaps you might regain your Faith again at this rate.

37 posted on 04/29/2011 5:20:32 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Gamecock

Like I have said time and time again here on FR..they are NOT child molesters but faggots. They rape their own kind.


38 posted on 04/29/2011 5:21:02 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Restore the Holy Inquisition!

Why not?

39 posted on 04/29/2011 5:21:22 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Gamecock
Just for balance:

The Free Press, Mankato, MN

November 13, 2006

Former pastor sentenced for sexually assaulting parishioner

James Michael Holthus to serve one year in jail

By Dan Nienaber The Mankato Free Press Tue Nov 14, 2006, 12:03 AM CST

MANKATO — A controversial court case that has divided two churches came to an end Monday when a former Lutheran pastor was sentenced for sexually assaulting a parishioner.

“My hope is, now that this matter is taken care of, the healing can begin,” Blue Earth County District Court Judge Kurt Johnson said. “I hope people can move on because that’s what needs to be done.”

Then he placed James Michael Holthus, 52, on probation for up to 10 years with the condition Holthus serve one year in jail, pay a $6,000 fine, pay $6,219 in restitution, complete sex offender treatment and register as a predatory offender. Any money Holthus spends on treatment can be deducted from his fine.

A 21-month prison sentence also was imposed and stayed, meaning Holthus could be sent to prison if he doesn’t meet his probation requirements. It was the harshest sentence he could have received without departing from Minnesota sentencing guidelines, Johnson said.

More than 50 people packed into the courtroom to witness the sentencing hearing.

Holthus pleaded guilty to a felony charge of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct in August. He admitted to sexually touching a man from his church to whom he was also providing religious advice. Holthus was serving as a pastor at Trinity Lutheran Church in Lake Crystal and St. John Lutheran Church in Rapidan when the assault occurred.

When Holthus was arrested Nov. 8, 2005, he was charged with more serious crimes including first-degree criminal sexual conduct. The criminal complaint that was filed accused him of sexually touching the same victim many times over several years, starting when the victim was about 14 years old.

In a written statement read by someone else during the hearing, the victim said he didn’t realize when he was still a child that he was being manipulated by Holthus. He said he stayed alone in motel rooms with Holthus “multiple times” and was bothered when Holthus always asked for rooms with one bed. When rooms with two beds were all that was available, Holthus would “end up in my bed anyhow,” the victim said.

He told investigators Holthus would sexually touch him during those overnight trips.

“I came to dread motels because I knew what would happen,” the victim said. “I want the whole world to know that James Holthus is a pedophile. I know, if given the opportunity, he’ll strike again.”

The victim’s mother also made a statement in court. She said she blamed herself for what happened to her son because she didn’t act earlier when noticing suspicious behavior. She listed several incidents where she wished she would have called police, including times when she found Holthus sitting outside her house at night and when he told her about sexually charged incidents involving her son.

She also asked Johnson to go easy on her former pastor.

“As a Christian, I’m asking for leniency,” she said. “My family won’t understand this. However, our children have to be protected.”

Seven people gave statements on behalf of Holthus, including several men who were former students of his when he was a teacher at a small rural Lutheran school outside of Lakefield in southwestern Minnesota. The school closed more than a decade ago.

The former students said they had good memories of Holthus bringing them on trips. Two of those men also said they spent the night at his house alone with him, and one said they shared the same bed.

They all said nothing ever happened to them and there were no rumors about anything happening to other boys in the small town near Worthington.

“I believe in my heart ‘Mr. H’ did do what he said he did, and nothing else,” said Brian Rademacher, one of the former students. “He’s an honest man and would never lie.”

Holthus’ attorney, Christopher Rosengren, also pointed out that no other allegations have been made against Holthus since his arrest was reported a year ago.

40 posted on 04/29/2011 5:25:45 PM PDT by keat
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To: Gamecock
In a statement, the diocese said

The diocese of Hartford can talk? Who knew?

But seriously, I would want to know what kind of "statement" this was, and who wrote it. It seems very unlikely to me.

41 posted on 04/29/2011 5:27:19 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: RnMomof7

The National “catholic” Reporter is a “catholic” leftist Soros funded “news” outlet.

Why are you promoting it as a legitimate source on FR? It’s like posting moveon, dailykos or media matters as a source.

I see you and your groupies causing division all over the FR Religious Forum. I also see you aiding and abetting the Marxist-Islamist agenda.

Who are you?


42 posted on 04/29/2011 5:29:49 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: keat

Just for balance? A case from 2006? Try again.


43 posted on 04/29/2011 5:33:28 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Gamecock

I assume the escorts were not 8-12 year old alter boys and consider this the new counter reformation.


44 posted on 04/29/2011 5:35:19 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: RnMomof7

“Pathetic attempt to justify sodomizing little altar boys”

I posted this a couple of days ago and didn’t see you posting on the thread -

Where is the Outrage? (protestant pedophiles)
stop baptist predators ^ | 01-01-2011 | staff
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:27:57 AM by bronxville
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2709296/posts

Just because Catholics don’t post every single episode of Protestant abuse, theft, prostitute allegations etc., doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Both sides, including Jewish conservatives and normal atheists/agnostics, know the left have a divisive agenda and part of it is to keep us fighting among each other. So, why do you and your groupie friends insist on stirring the pot?

Who are you? I know there are people from the Soros funded dailykos, moveon, mediamatters sites who get paid for this crap-stirring. Are you from that arena or the Algore affiliated Westboro group?


45 posted on 04/29/2011 5:43:03 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“Just for balance? A case from 2006? Try again.”

I just googled and found plenty of recent Pastor abuses, theft, prostitutes etc., but who does that help?

What benefit do any of you gain from posting this stuff especially on a religious forum?


46 posted on 04/29/2011 5:47:06 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Sacajaweau

If they leave, it isn’t because of him.


47 posted on 04/29/2011 5:51:47 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

“I assume the escorts were not 8-12 year old alter boys and consider this the new counter reformation.”

Read the link on post #45. Your sly remarks aren’t going to work anymore.

Please feel free to question any of the Protestant child abuse cases posted therein (I’ve checked them all and then some)...perhaps you can even come up with solutions because it continues to happen...that’s if you really do care about abuse. The CC has a terrific program in place for a decade which is used by many other institutions. You might suggest it to whomever you affiliate with...if it’s the Marxists on dailykos etc they certainly need it as their unionized teachers/DoE numbers are through the roof.


48 posted on 04/29/2011 5:53:00 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville

Some people regularly make fools of themselves, they just can’t help it and some people are virulent fools.


49 posted on 04/29/2011 5:54:45 PM PDT by tiki
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To: bronxville; keat

I don’t know. Ask keat. He’s the one “balancing” things.


50 posted on 04/29/2011 5:57:10 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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