Posted on 05/07/2011 4:07:04 AM PDT by GonzoII
LOL!!
Oh, now I feel bad, as if I’m taking food out of the mouths of your children by not watching commercial television.
Well then, problem solved. :)
The attempt at making men look like idiots is also prevalent on many tv shows regular story lines not counting the ads. For instance, when I first started watching NCSI, I noticed the younger male characters were made out to be semi-buffoons...overgrown adolescents who would obviously rather be playing video games and looking up female skirts rather than solving crimes. The women were depicted as no-nonsense, hardheaded adult crime-solvers who now and again had to chastise the young males for their childishness. I remember one scene where a female officer pulled a male character out from under his desk by his ears. Which is one reason why I don’t watch the thoroughly chickified NCIS.
LOL! No worries. We’re guilty of the same thing then. Just eat lots of Kellogs cereal and we’ll be fine. ;0)
Really? Lisa is portrayed as a self righteous, self centered, pretentious little jerk who thinks she is much smarter then she is. Patty and Selma are stuck in low paying dead-end jobs, friendless and often are rescued by Homer from their latest round of stupidity. That is when they are not trying to take advantage of Homer and having the whole thing back fire.
Mrs. Lovejoy is a hypocritical gossip. Maud Flanders was the neighbor from hell.
Crusty is not an evil clown (That would be Sideshow Bob) and Apu is a loving father and husband who does his best to care for a (very) large family. Marge and Ned Flanders are more or less normal because you have to have someone to make a contrast.
Sorry but if you try to build an essay around "men are unfairly portrayed" using the Simpsons you are going to have to look at the whole picture.
Very possible. I personally think berry patches and orchards where the first things that were cultivated, probably buy a river or lake with fish. It would make for a steady food supply with a minimum of effort.
I would argue that they have shown it quite clearly. As evidence I would note that when Lisa tried to run the town with only "Smart people" in charge it turned out rather poorly as do most of her schemes, the exception is when she is trying to act in a proper sisterly fashion and save Bart. That is also is when Bart's plans tend to work out as well. Both of them succeed when they are focused on others.
Our seldom, if ever, seeing Patty and Selma in the company of friends doesn't indicate they're friendless, but, even then, this doesn't mean they're stupid or being portrayed as stupid relative to Homer
They have talked about being alone and lonely several times and can you name a time when Homer didn't ultimately come out on top? Both of them are clerks for the DMV. Low skill job, not very high paying, usually selected by people who lack brains. It is steady work I will grant you. But I would bet on Homer beating them in the pay department.
As to Mrs Lovejoy and Maud not having much face time, Neither does Chief Wiggum. And Sideshow Bob is a clown. A second rate clown.
Selling, selling selling is how Apu provides for his family of, I think it is twelve. He is not piling up money for it's own sake.
And I have think I have shown that they have one normal male (Ned) and one normal female (Marge) character with the rest being eh.. not so admirable. That is balance.
BTW there are more male major characters then female which might play into it.
Re-read what I wrote, more carefully and more slowly. What I said was quite accurate. Further, the impact of any mass media lies in each individual target viewer or listener as per each one's "issues" or "rackets" going on in their heads.
For example, while you are offended and concerned by the how the fleeting nonsense of white male bashing may affect how we are perceived - I, and presumably others, might be more focused on the strength of male portrayals in mass media by such talent as Ed Harris, Robert Duvall, George C Scott, Jeff Bridges, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, and many other mentally/physically strong icons with stong integrity.
But again, we all have our own stories rambling away in our own heads - based on our own life fears and insecurities, don't we "MCF"?
(Got to meet Dick Van Dyke while shooting "Diagnosis Murder". We were in a 'strip bar'. The DJ knew that Dick would be on set at any moment. When Dick arrived, the DJ cleverly played the "Dick Van Dyke Show" theme! Dick didn't miss a beat - he walked briskly in to the room and did his famous "trip"! Was great!)
True, Gonzo, and I understand your overall point, and I love your post here. Generally speaking, I, personally, try to think ahead to potential examples of "impacts". For example, if black males are consistently shown in mass media as dumbass hoodlums, then of course there are going to be the idiots out there who are going to make up stories in their pea-sized brains that that is the sum of all black males. Conversely, the fear is that with white male bashing, the impact will be__________ because of what _______ thinks.
Anyway, and unfortunately, my tv spot industry is lacking creativity and originality - and I'll do my part with your point in mind. Good to meet you here on FR!
True, Gonzo, and I understand your overall point, and I love your post here. Generally speaking, I, personally, try to think ahead to potential examples of "impacts". For example, if black males are consistently shown in mass media as dumbass hoodlums, then of course there are going to be the idiots out there who are going to make up stories in their pea-sized brains that that is the sum of all black males. Conversely, the fear is that with white male bashing, the impact will be__________ because of what _______ thinks.
Anyway, and unfortunately, my tv spot industry is lacking creativity and originality - and I'll do my part with your point in mind. Good too meet you here on FR!
I agree. Humor is more of a male trait, which is why there are fewer female comedians, and they are usually lesbians or mannish.
My other thought is that most actresses won’t take buffoonish roles. They would rather be sex symbols than the next Carol Burnett or Ellen Degeneres.
True, Gonzo, and I understand your overall point, and I love your post here. Generally speaking, I, personally, try to think ahead to potential examples of "impacts". For example, if black males are consistently shown in mass media as dumbass hoodlums, then of course there are going to be the idiots out there who are going to make up stories in their pea-sized brains that that is the sum of all black males. Conversely, the fear is that with white male bashing, the impact will be__________ because of what _______ thinks.
Anyway, and unfortunately, my tv spot industry is lacking creativity and originality - and I'll do my part with your point in mind. Good too meet you here on FR!
GREAT point - and succinct! (Unlike mine! Ha!)
On a personal note - I always enjoy reading your comments here on FR, Dingo. Glad to finally interchange with you; I look up to all of the leaders on here.
Since your in the biz .. Let me ask .. Why does it always seem to be WHITE MALES?
Note to self: If I continue to triple-post, then:
A: Quit lecturing other dorks on FR - b’cuz I am KING dork.
B: Throw the damn BlackBerry against the wall and enter the tech world of new 2011 phones.
Archie Bunker played the fool Way before AL Bundy.
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