Skip to comments.Michael Moore: (regarding the killing of Bin Laden)
Posted on 05/08/2011 1:46:30 PM PDT by NoRedTape
"Mr Moore said: 'We've lost something of our soul here in this country, and maybe I'm an old-school American, who believes in the American justice system, something that separates us from other countries. 'We say everybody has their day in court, no matter what sort of person, no matter what piece of scum they are."
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Should I question the Priest to clarify what in the heck he truly meant by that comment?
With all due respect Mr. Moore, but if we truly had justice in America, Bill Clinton would be doing hard time right now.
Your story reinforces in me that I am on the right path. My Pastor today said a prayer thanking God for the safety of the SEALS that carried out the mission and for His Grace in making their aim true.
Maybe Fat Mikey should realize that OBL was not subject to the US judicial system, and therefore, not entitled to the protections it affords.
So when is Michael Moore's day in court for the trash he has put out as "documentary"
No fat boy, what seperates us from other countries is the ability of our military to dish out old fashioned justice deep behind enemy lines.
You should question him, I’ve done similar in regards to a deacon’s support of 0bama.
Yes, he should be informed that church is not the place to parade his personal politics.
I will never forget my godmother standing up and walking out during an anti Vietnam War homily. She told the priest that those attending were essentially a captive audience and forcing his his personal views during church was way out of place.
I myself have gotten up, genuflected and walked out once when a letter was read from the bishop apologizing for slavery. I have never owned not do I ever intend to own a slave so I need make no apology nor have any made for me.
Gospel not politics.
I agree, I’m glad Americans don’t look to Michael Moore for the definition of justice. Justice was done in Bin Laden’s case.
And God (of course) is honored during each and every Mass, and Mothers were honored today during Mass with flowers and applause. I understand completely the adherence to "pro-life" in all aspects of the Church, but I felt the Priest alienated many, if not all, in the congregation by not approaching his comment more delicately and should have focused on the justified removal of evil incarnate. I was very disappointed.
OBL signed his own death warrant when he admitted masterminding 9/11. Our SEALS gave him all the justice he deserved.
If that's all he said then you need to ask him why he said it.............
I didn’t “celebrate” the death of Osama Bin Laden just as I didn’t go out a CELEBRATE when Saddam Hussein was captured or later when he was executed.
The celebrations appear to have been coordinated. Campaign signs at the ready the moment the announcement came.
And America didn’t stage “flash mob” celebrations regarding Saddam. Bunch of astroturf activism, if you ask me.
But Mr. Moore is an American hating million dollar Marxist. He, as Ray Bradbury put it, a perfect a&&hole.
So is Michael Moore going to stage rallies pushing for war crimes charges against Barack Obama?
Didn’t think so.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Unfortunately, there are far too many who don't understand this.
Even if you look at it in terms of U.S. law, the international laws of warfare are enacted via treaty, and signed and ratified treaties become part of U.S. law.
It is legal to attack and kill an enemy general in wartime. It is legal to attack and kill a war criminal in wartime.
We minimized collateral damage and deaths of civilians. This raid was an extreme exercise in legality. It should be praised.
This just in: Michael Moore believes in souls.
Moore:Obama did in two years what the other couldn’t do in 8.
F you and the horse that brought your fat @ss in here.
I didn't hear it and don't know him so its hard for me to judge. However the clergy have a different non-political job. Jesus forgave the Romans nailing him to a cross. Personally I am not able to do that and freely celebrate the assassination of Osama. But I am a sinner.
Michael Moore is a douchebag. Saying that Obama did in 2 years what Bush couldn’t do in 8 is like saying Richard Nixon put a man on the moon in less than 1 year, unlike JFK or LBJ.
Born on third, Obama thinks he hit a triple.
It was Bush’s interogrations of KSM that yielded the details necessary to track Osama down.
Mr. Moore’s argument is worthless.
Thank you for that answer, kalee.......
[’We’ve lost something of our soul here in this country...]
Our soul??? What do you know about the soul’s in OUR country, you fat assed Canadian.
Why don’t you follow that same slimy trail you left when you slithered into OUR country and GO BACK.
Fatso Moore “an old-school American”. ROTFLMAO!!! That lardass isn’t even a new-school American. IMHO, he isn’t even an American.
--Yes, it was just a quick reference.......and would have played-out allright without the mention of Michael Moore. Granted, the Priest is 80 or so....maybe he just isn't clear on what a caustic lib Moore is.
"Yes, I believe that the Priest was making a point I didn't hear it and don't know him so its hard for me to judge. However the clergy have a different non-political job. Jesus forgave the Romans nailing him to a cross. Personally I am not able to do that and freely celebrate the assassination of Osama. But I am a sinner."
.....and I'm right there with you. Thank you for your post.
There are many tacks you can take. You may ask him if he believes Obama committed a war crime and if not why not? If he believes Obama committed a war crime, what is he and the Church going to do about it? : )
I don’t know as I don’t know your priest and wasn’t there, but maybe he wasn’t condemning the death of Bin Laden but was condemning how people celebrated his death in the streets.
The way I see it the killing of Bin Laden is chock full of liberal hypocrisy. The real story here is that Obama used the Bush Doctrine to find Bin Laden and used the exact commands (Kill orders) that Bush himself would have used to exterminate him.
A true dillema for the I voted for it before I voted against it gray area lefties that have become the heart and soul of the Democrat party.
Obama wants to appear above this and of higher morale character to appease his lefty sychophants but in the end justice was served.
It really is a bitter pill for the left to swallow knowing in their minds that Obama is no better then Bush was and that in order to support and celebrate Obama in this regard, they must contort their unprincipled reasoning again and again.
Liberalism is a disease that requires a person to become unprincipled and intellectually dishonest and the more Conservatives are able to exploit and expose that picture of the left the better it will be for all of us.
He was an enemy combatant. He didn't have to point a weapon at a SEAL to be a legitimate target. He wasn't a legitimate military target because he committed a criminal offense against us. He was a legitimate target because on his orders, war was made against us.
Why does anybody take this intellectual lightweight seriously?
I'm thrilled that bin Laden is dead - I am shocked that this President had the balls to order it done, so I'm not a hypocrit for being happy about it no matter who got the job done. But, almost every stinking liberal in this country is a bald faced lying hypocrit because they would never have suppored George Bush doing the exact same thing.
Who are you calling a Canadian? Michael Moore? How insulting! Moore was born and raised in Flint Michigan. You can’t blame Canada for that one.
Well said Texas girl in PA!
Your priest, just like almost everybody else, incuding dumb Mike Moore has no clue what really went on in that house. The SEALS didn’t know if the whole thing was set to blow up, or if OBL himself was rigged. But they went in anyhow. In fact, I wouldn’t be suprised if he actually killed himself or had one of his body guards do it, remember that’s what everyone said his body guards had orders to do if it looked like he was going to be captured.
No, Mr Moore, you sir are not “an old school american”, you are a modern progressive, that is, COMMUNIST. You are an old school communist.
Moore isn’t even a good old school Marxist. He is a self undulant opportunist who will change his political oppositions like he changes his underwear. Now its cool to be a leftist—but when the winds change he will become a “patriot”. Lots of Hollywood types are just like him. His talking points are just lines to read to gain jobs, funds, access to parties and the ear of real leftists in Filmdom and the Media.
And sharing a cell with Jimmy Carter, Joe Wilson, OJ Simpson and Obama....
The priest at Mass by me yesterday said something along the same lines, minus the Michael Moore reference , and adding that Christ forgave those who nailed Him to the Cross. It was clear to me what he meant, that we shouldn't celebrate having to do this. At least that's how I took it. I can see if he'd thrown in Michael Moore's name I would have been offended too.
The American Catholic Church turns a blind eye to abortion. Many Catholics here have said the same thing, and complained about it. Much safer to mock the celebration of Bil Laden's death.
If I wasn’t with my Mom (took her to Mass today) I would’ve walked-out. I was so upset during the homily, when the Priest saying Mass slipped-in “Michael Moore was quoted as saying America lost part of its soul by celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden”.
This comment by our Priest, in my opinion, was terribly misguided. First of all, why quote one of the most liberally putrid pro-abortion fake Catholics in the U.S? Secondly, didn’t God give society the power to govern ourselves to secure and protect citizens? Yes, we should be pro-life, but, in the event of a Bin Laden type of EVIL in which society, and other lives are jeopardized, and seing we are at War with this type of evil....................do we not have the right to remove this threat from society?
Should I question the Priest to clarify what in the heck he truly meant by that comment?
What’s that sorry piece of UN legislation that Democrats love concerning parties in acts of war?
I understand exactly what you mean by that, but it's not fair to people who are smart to use "intellectual" in the same sentence as "Michael Moore."
“Should I question the Priest to clarify what in the heck he truly meant by that comment?”
If this priest is so misguided that he would mention Michael Moore like that, then I’d say any attempt to reason with him would be futile.
If you have a bishop that can be reasoned with, write this priest a letter explaining how and why he gave scandal. Do not be sucked into any private meetings with this priest, or, for that matter, any meetings at all at which you have no friendly witnesses who will testify as to what was really said.
The priest will respond to your letter in one or more of any number of inappropriate ways. When he does, contact your bishop. Do not allow the priest to ambush you, or give him an opportunity to lie about what you have said.
Leftist priests are leftists first and priests maybe seventh or eighth, if in fact they have any sincere committment to the Church at all.
It’s a perilous undertaking at best. Leftist priests act like any other leftist. If your bishop isn’t rock solid, I’d say don’t even bother—unless you want to do some anonymous phamphleteering.
In all truth, I cannot see how your pastor might reconcile the Moore comment with today’s Gospel, regarding the men walking to Emmaus. I’d say it was a mistake for him to blurt that out, then. I don’t condone anything Mr. Moore says or does, aside from breathing. Is your priest perhaps one of those who might have been, umm, influenced by events of the sixties?
First of all, I am not even slightly fazed by the attempt at liberals to try and argue moral inconsistency to me, especially the false comparison between abortion and the death penalty. A person who gets the death penalty is someone who has grown up and has committed a serious crime, while a person who gets the death penalty or was killed in war made the wrong choice, and received due penalty for what they did.
Yes, we should be pro-life, but, in the event of a Bin Laden type of EVIL in which society, and other lives are jeopardized, and seing we are at War with this type of evil....................do we not have the right to remove this threat from society?
Of course, defense is something that is acceptable. God killed people sometimes just to prevent the annihilation of those who served him.
But I think the main point is that bin Laden’s death is bittersweet. I would have preferred a priest quote C.S. Lewis over Michael Moore any day. C.S. Lewis may not have been a top authority, but he did have a great deal to say about behaving oneself in a decent manner.