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To: SeekAndFind

A complete and disgusting white wash by the Catholic church.

The only thing missing from there unrepentant report is, “the children were just asking to be raped.”

I have to go throw up now.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 7:05:27 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Sling Blade (2006))
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To: TSgt
Again, you prove that you are incapable of analytical thought.
8 posted on 05/19/2011 7:19:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: TSgt

depends on your definition of “pedophile”.

I agree with you. This is a whitewash, setting up “tropes” i.e. straw men, and then defeating those strawmen, leaves you where we started. There was systematic tolerance of sexual abuse of minors by priests, over generations, and nothing was done about it until the media got involved.


9 posted on 05/19/2011 7:19:43 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: TSgt
A complete and disgusting white wash by the Catholic church.

The only thing missing from there unrepentant report is, “the children were just asking to be raped.”

You didn't even read far enough to see who wrote the report. Nothing like being open to information.

16 posted on 05/19/2011 7:28:32 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: TSgt

This article was done by National Review— not the Catholic Church. Did you miss that fact?


21 posted on 05/19/2011 7:40:24 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

Gay infiltration of Catholic Church: Check, once a success, now failed
Gay infiltration of Boy Scouts: Check, failed
Gay infiltration of Military: Check, Maybe
Gay infiltration of adoption agency: Check on same-sex adoption, yet to be appreciated


74 posted on 05/19/2011 8:29:43 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: TSgt
The bishops’ response to the burgeoning abuse crisis between the late 1960s and the early 1980s was not singularly woodenheaded or callous. In fact, according to the John Jay study, the bishops were as clueless as the rest of society about the magnitude of the abuse problem and, again like the rest of society, tended to focus on the perpetrators of abuse rather than the victims. This, in turn, led to an overdependence on psychiatry and psychology in dealing with clerical perpetrators, in the false confidence that they could be “cured” and returned to active ministry — a pattern that again mirrored broader societal trends. In many pre-1985 cases, the principal request of victims’ families was that the priest-abuser be given help and counseling. Yes, the bishops should have been more alert than the rest of an increasingly coarsened society to the damage done to victims by sexual abuse; but as the John Jay report states, “like the general public, the leaders of the Church did not recognize the extent or harm of victimization.” And this, in turn, was “one factor that likely led to the continued perpetration of offenses.”
I would have expected a religious order to recognize that raping a child is fundamentally a sinful behavior, before they would believe it to be aberrational behavior. It should be a warning sign to everyone that if a religious order looks to "the Psychs" for expert advice on dealing with known sinful behavior, instead of looking in their Bibles for solutions, they prove themselves to be scripturally deficient if not illiterate....We should not expect "psychological treatment" will end sinful behavior. That's what many bishops have believed, however, and look at what fruit it has yielded - $3,000,000,000 awarded in damages and settlements by Catholic dioceses within the United States alone.
-- Alex Murphy, May 20, 2009

[Faithful Departed author Philip] Lawler points out that while less than five percent of American priests have been accused of sexual abuse, some two-thirds of our bishops were apparently complicit in cover-ups. The real scandal isn't the sick excesses of a few dozen pedophiles, or even the hundreds of priests who had affairs with teenage boys -- the bulk of abuse cases. No, according to Lawler, it is the malfeasance of wealthy, powerful, and evidently worldly men who fill the thrones -- but not the shoes -- of the apostles. In case after case, we read in their correspondence, in the records of their soulless, bureaucratic responses to victims of psychic torture and spiritual betrayal, these bishops' prime concern was to save the infrastructure, the bricks and mortar and mortgages. Ironically, their lack of a supernatural concern for souls is precisely what cost them so much money in the end.
-- from the thread Kneeling Before the World

"The Dublin Archdiocese's preoccupations in dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, at least until the mid-1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the church and the preservation of its assets," said the report. "All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities. The archdiocese did not implement its own canon law rules and did its best to avoid any application of the law of the state"....
-- from the thread Pope calls Irish church leaders to Vatican to discuss abuse report


76 posted on 05/19/2011 8:31:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: TSgt

Either you did not read it or you had your ideology determined before you got past the title.


82 posted on 05/19/2011 8:36:49 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: TSgt

Why not read the report instead of just assuming what it says? Just because it concludes that Catholicism is not the reason for abuse does not mean it is a white wash. It showed very clearly that the consequences of disregarding constant Christian moral teaching on the matters of sexuality lead to the crisis.


108 posted on 05/19/2011 9:27:07 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: TSgt
"A complete and disgusting white wash by the Catholic church."

What is your particular fascination with this subject? It seems that you are drawn to this discussion by some unclean attraction because every time this subject appears you are one of the first and most prolific attackers of the Church.

If your sense of outrage is legitimate why do you so rarely post against abortion or give equal time to those many, many things the Church has done well? All of this suggests your problem isn't with the abuse, but with the Church itself and you hold it to a much higher standard than other organizations.

130 posted on 05/19/2011 10:45:43 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: TSgt

You might find that the quality of your reactions to posted articles benefits from actually reading the content.


181 posted on 05/19/2011 4:14:55 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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