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Harold Camping 'Flabbergasted'; Rapture a No-Show ["It's been a really tough weekend"]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/23/11 | Will Kane

Posted on 05/23/2011 6:23:53 AM PDT by marshmallow

(05-22) 19:18 PDT ALAMEDA -- The man who said the world was going to end appeared at his front door in Alameda a day later, very much alive but not so well.

"It has been a really tough weekend," said Harold Camping, the 89-year-old fundamentalist radio preacher who convinced hundreds of his followers that the rapture would occur on Saturday at 6 p.m.

Massive earthquakes would strike, he said. Believers would ascend to heaven and the rest would be left to wander a godforsaken planet until Oct. 21, when Camping promised a fiery end to the world.

But on Sunday, almost 18 hours after he thought he'd be in heaven, there was Camping, "flabbergasted" in Alameda, wearing tan slacks, a tucked-in polo shirt and a light jacket.

Birds chirped. A gentle breeze blew. Across the street, neighbors focused on their yard work and the latest neighborhood gossip.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: christians; chuckmissler; grantjeffery; hallindsey; haroldcamping; nevermind; rapture; thomasice; timlahaye
What part of.... "for you know not the day nor the hour", do these idiots not get?
1 posted on 05/23/2011 6:23:57 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Naturally, he’s going to give all the money back to his followers, right?


2 posted on 05/23/2011 6:24:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Pretty sure most of it was spent on billboards etc.


3 posted on 05/23/2011 6:26:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
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To: marshmallow
What part of disgrace and derision doesn't the evangelical sola types know?

The usual suspects on this board are on the warpath and I have tried to sooth their feelings but some serve only to rile these spiritually bankrupt up into a state of religious ecstasy. How shame full

4 posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:11 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: marshmallow

While it was foolish to believe that a man could have known when the Rapture would occur, it is sickening to see the absolute glee which many people are displaying toward the misfortune of the people who put their faith in this man and then spent their life savings. There are people who will totally turn away from Christianity now because their belief in this man was unfounded, and will now be led astray.


5 posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:38 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: marshmallow

I am trying to understand how one considers it being a really hard weekend because the world did not end.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 6:32:34 AM PDT by mmercier (lacking empathy)
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To: marshmallow
When it's between the word of man and the Word of the Lord, best to take God's Word EVERY TIME. Hey, people are fallible. Camping has his issues just like everyone and God will lovingly but unflinchingly deal with Him just like He does with all of us. (None of us have any room to judge others (Rom 2:1).)

One take-away from this: watch and be ready , for no man, no angel, and not even Jesus, knows the day or the hour, only the Father. Mark 13:32

7 posted on 05/23/2011 6:36:01 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: marshmallow

Same thing happened to alot of Y2K doomsday people (paging Gary North).

Life goes on...


8 posted on 05/23/2011 6:36:09 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Most of it was deposited into his account under manna from idiots.
9 posted on 05/23/2011 6:38:23 AM PDT by ontap
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To: marshmallow

I am interested to know the suicide statistics of his ‘believers’.

How much blood does he have on his hands or will he have over the next few months.

Some of these people quit their jobs, spent their retirement, alienated friends and family. They have nothing left but a cardboard box in an ally way.

We’ll see...


10 posted on 05/23/2011 6:39:31 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: gop4lyf
There are people who will totally turn away from Christianity now because their belief in this man was unfounded, and will now be led astray.

It would do well for Mr. Camping to reflect on Matthew 18:6:

"But whoso shall cause one of these little ones that believe on me to stumble, it is profitable for him that a great millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depth of the sea."

11 posted on 05/23/2011 6:39:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: marshmallow

Maybe it did happen and he/we didn’t make it. :)


12 posted on 05/23/2011 6:40:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: gop4lyf
displaying toward the misfortune of the people who put their faith in this man

Sorry but these people are fools and are reaping their rewards....this is what happens when you put your faith in men!! They may blame Christianity but the real blame lies in their stupidity!!!!

13 posted on 05/23/2011 6:44:26 AM PDT by ontap
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To: COBOL2Java
"It would do well for Mr. Camping to reflect on Matthew 18:6

"Mr. Camping" is only the tip of the iceberg

14 posted on 05/23/2011 6:45:44 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: marshmallow

Should be a lesson about anyone who uses numerology and biblomancy in their divination. How could Biblical information be derived from anti-Biblical means?


15 posted on 05/23/2011 6:48:32 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: TomGuy

You wrote: “Maybe it did happen and he/we didn’t make it. :)”

They have our “memos” all ready to go :)

Memos from those who were “raptured”:

Rapture Ready’s “MEMO” to “those left behind”
http://www.raptureready.com/rr-memo.html

If you missed “the Rapture”:
http://www.raptureready.com/rap49.html

Post-Rapture “survival guide”:
http://www.raptureready.com/rr-survival-guide.html

Left behind “letters”:
http://www.raptureready.com/lbl/left-behind.html


16 posted on 05/23/2011 6:52:11 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: marshmallow
Deuteronomy 18:20-22

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

You would think that his followers would have followed Deuteronomy 18:22 after the last time he predicted the end of the world.
17 posted on 05/23/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: gop4lyf

As these people were cultists, placing their faith in a different gospel, a different Jesus, and different grace, they weren’t Christians to begin with. They are no better and no worse off than unbelievers, except they should now see the truth more clearly than most. Probably a remnant will.


18 posted on 05/23/2011 7:02:27 AM PDT by Phillipian (Post Tenebras Lux)
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To: marshmallow
It has been a really tough weekend," said Harold Camping, the 89-year-old fundamentalist radio preacher who convinced hundreds of his followers that the rapture would occur on Saturday at 6 p.m.

Mister Camping, it is time for you to go HUMBLY BEFORE THE LORD and beg for forgiveness for thinking you knew more than Jesus. According to the Bible, not even Jesus knows the time for Judgement Day.

19 posted on 05/23/2011 7:15:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: marshmallow

20 posted on 05/23/2011 7:16:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: mmercier
how one considers it being a really hard weekend because the world did not end.

I put off doing dishes until after the 'rapture'. Wound up having to do them anyway. Does that count?

/johnny

21 posted on 05/23/2011 7:23:25 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lazamataz
Velocirapture

Comet? Asteroid? Hell, no! That explains how the "age of the dinosaurs" came to a sudden end!

22 posted on 05/23/2011 7:25:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: mnehring

You wrote: “Should be a lesson about anyone who uses numerology and biblomancy in their divination.”

“....As it happens, at least two of Camping’s studio staff are Jewish – including his cameraman .... The most outspoken in-house critic happens to be his longtime producer, Matt Tuter, 53, who believes Jesus will return some day but that it is a sin to presume to pinpoint a date.

“He leaves out numbers he doesn’t like,” Tuter said of Camping’s numerological analysis of the Bible. Tuter said he can no longer keep track of all the times Camping has predicted the end of the world. ...”

Here: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rapture-20110521,0,5053003.story


23 posted on 05/23/2011 7:28:45 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I've studied prophecy 30 years" usually means "I have everything Hal Lindsay ever 'wrote'." ~ L NF)
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To: ontap
"Sorry but these people are fools and are reaping their rewards....this is what happens when you put your faith in men!! They may blame Christianity but the real blame lies in their stupidity!!!!"

That takes in a LOT of opportunists and their dupes.:)

Pseudo-Ephraem-Deceiving and Being Deceived

The Rapture Plot

Incredible Cover Up

24 posted on 05/23/2011 7:39:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I've studied prophecy 30 years" usually means "I have everything Hal Lindsay ever 'wrote'." ~ L NF)
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To: marshmallow
What part of.... "for you know not the day nor the hour", do these idiots not get?

No kidding. That's what you get when you ignore Scripture.

25 posted on 05/23/2011 7:52:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: marshmallow

You wrote: “What part of.... “for you know not the day nor the hour”, do these idiots not get?”

True. bttt

The same trumpet - the trumpet that is blown in Matt. 24:34; 1 Thess.4:16, and 1 Cor.15:51-52 is the last trumpet wherein Jesus returns the second time as he promised [John 14:3] . At that time there will be the resurrection of both believers and unbelievers, the final judgement and the new heaven and the new earth. (Revelation 20 is now being fulfilled in this, the “church age” — an indeterminate period of time described by the figure of speech, “a thousand years” — which will continue until Christ returns the second time where all those end-time events occur at once.)

“For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek...” [Romans 10: 12.] There is only ONE olive tree. [ Romans 11:24].

Abraham is the father of ALL the faithful.[Romans 9: 6-8].


26 posted on 05/23/2011 8:06:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I've studied prophecy 30 years" usually means "I have everything Hal Lindsay ever 'wrote'." ~ L NF)
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To: marshmallow
I am currently reading this book. A much different story than Camping's

BTW, this book was written in 1881; you wouldn't believe how accurate it is!

The End of the Present World
 
Reading this book was one of the greatest graces of my life!"
— St. Thérèse of Lisieux

In the late nineteenth century, Father Charles Arminjon, a priest from the mountains of southeastern France, assembled his flock in the town cathedral to preach a series of conferences to help them turn their thoughts away from this life’s mean material affairs—and toward the next life’s glorious spiritual reward. His wise and uncompromising words deepened in them the spirit of recollection that all Christians must have: the abiding conviction that heavenly aims, not temporal enthusiasms, must guide everything we think, say, and do.

When Father Arminjon’s conferences were later published in a book, many others were able to reap the same benefit—including fourteen-year-old Thérèse Martin, then on the cusp of entering the Carmelite convent in Lisieux. Reading it, she says, “plunged my soul into a happiness not of this earth.” Young Thérèse, filled with a sense of “what God reserves for those who love him, and seeing that the eternal rewards had no proportion to the light sacrifices of life,” copied out numerous passages and memorized them, “repeating unceasingly the words of love burning in my heart.”

Now the very book that so inspired the Little Flower is available for the first time in English.

Let the pages of The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life fill you with the same burning words of love, with the same ardent desire to know God above all created things, that St. Thérèse gained from them. Let them also enrich your understanding of certain teachings of the Faith that can often seem so mysterious, even frightening:

  • The signs that will precede the world’s end
  • The coming of the Antichrist, and how to recognize him
  • The Judgment and where it may send us: heaven, hell, and purgatory
  • Biblical end-times prophecy: how to read it and not be deceived

    Jesus commands us to be ever-watchful for his return, and ever-mindful that we have no lasting city on earth. The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life is an invaluable aid to inculcating in your spirit that heavenly orientation, without which true human happiness cannot be found—in this world or the next.


27 posted on 05/23/2011 8:46:17 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

28 posted on 05/23/2011 8:59:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: bronx2

This personal interpretation end times left behind nonsense only feeds the liberal stereotype that Christians are simpletons, buffoons, and morons.

What makes it difficult for the rest of Christianity is the fact that those who subscribe to personal interpretation end times left behind nonsense are.


29 posted on 05/23/2011 9:02:03 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: marshmallow
"It has been a really tough weekend," said Harold Camping,

All things considered, it could have been worse.

30 posted on 05/23/2011 9:27:03 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Phillipian
You wrote: "As these people were cultists, placing their faith in a different gospel, a different Jesus, and different grace, they weren’t Christians to begin with. They are no better and no worse off than unbelievers, except they should now see the truth more clearly than most..."

Don't count on it.

The memos from the Raptured to those Left Behind are all ready to go:)

Two more "Left Behind" books to go-then we'll know how the world ends

Rapture Ready's Approved list of "Who's Who of Prophecy"

Smithsonian - Ten Notable Apocalypses (that obviously didn't happen

Excerpt:

"... An Assyrian clay tablet dating to around 2800 B.C. bears the inscription: “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.”

"CRISIS THEOLOGY" in action. bttt

31 posted on 05/23/2011 9:37:07 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I've studied prophecy 30 years" usually means "I have everything Hal Lindsay ever 'wrote'." ~ LNF)
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To: TomGuy
Maybe it did happen and he/we didn’t make it. :)

I know this is meant is jest, but some believe this secret rapture nonsense. Matthew 24:30 makes it very clear that no one will miss it:

"And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and the shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." (Matthew 24:30)

32 posted on 05/23/2011 10:24:01 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: marshmallow

Big deal, a confused old man made a fool of himself. Camping hasn’t done one 1/100 of the damage the largest of the mainstream denominations have done in the last few years. Camping hasn’t been ordaining gays and women or denying the exclusivity of Christ as the only path to salvation.


33 posted on 05/23/2011 12:09:34 PM PDT by circlecity (')
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To: marshmallow; Tatze
Brazenly stolen from Tatze, out of respect..........


34 posted on 05/23/2011 12:13:05 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: marshmallow
"What part of.... "for you know not the day nor the hour", do these idiots not get?"

What part of "You can't get to Heaven without dying and being judged" does he not get?

35 posted on 05/23/2011 2:00:12 PM PDT by redhead (Get the GOVERNMENT out of our BUSINESS!!)
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To: OB1kNOb
Brazenly stolen from Tatze, out of respect..........

No worries. I stole it from a friend on FB! :)

36 posted on 05/24/2011 7:15:08 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“put off doing the dishes”

LOL... I got a wife who could care less about the end of the world.


37 posted on 05/24/2011 11:57:45 AM PDT by mmercier (A restless spirit, on an endless flight)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks marshmallow.
...the 89-year-old fundamentalist radio preacher who convinced hundreds of his followers that the rapture would occur on Saturday at 6 p.m. Massive earthquakes would strike, he said. Believers would ascend to heaven and the rest would be left to wander a godforsaken planet until Oct. 21, when Camping promised a fiery end to the world.
This is nothing though, compared with the demagogues, hacks, and liars who continue to claim that human activity will melt the icecaps, destroy whole genera of flora and fauna, including the majority of humanity living within a couple hundred feet of sealevel...


38 posted on 05/29/2011 8:27:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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