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"The Camping fiasco would have been a great time to wipe the slate clean of all prophetic speculation, from Hal Lindsey’s Late Great Planet Earth (1970) that predicted Jesus would “rapture” the church before 1988 to Mark Hitchcock’s The Late Great United States (2009), while not setting a particular date, still argues that all the signs are in place for the nearness of the “rapture.”"
1 posted on 05/23/2011 7:20:25 AM PDT by topcat54
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"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 05/23/2011 7:22:35 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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The author says: It’s is impossible to turn the above time indicators into an “any-moment rapture” or prolonged periods of prophetic history.

But he does not say what it does mean.

He also gives no clue as to why evangelicals are "dangerous".

3 posted on 05/23/2011 7:25:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: topcat54
The great big shame in all of this is that the media and all the libtards out there just love to trash Christianity and love to hold this idiot's stupidity up as evidence that Christianity is stupid and worth the comedic satire.

The stand-ups will be feasting on this anti-Christian feed-bag for months and months.

4 posted on 05/23/2011 7:27:11 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: topcat54

What about Globull Warming predictions?


7 posted on 05/23/2011 7:32:04 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: topcat54

Matthew 24
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Zecharia 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

There are many, many more such prophetic passages which have yet to be fulfilled.

When? In the words of Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:36 ...

“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

Attempts to predict these things are not only futile, but reject the authority of God Himself who made it clear through His Son that nobody would know.


9 posted on 05/23/2011 7:38:19 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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Christ said he would return. He never said He was going to “rapture out Believers.” That is a dangerous false doctrine that has only been around for about 130 years.

People like LaHaye should be ashamed for spreading these falsehoods and making piles of money from it.


12 posted on 05/23/2011 7:40:08 AM PDT by AnnGora (For a copy of this tagline, send 19.99 to Copy of Tagline, Pueblo, CO...)
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To: topcat54

You may remember the folk remedy for a bad LSD trip — take another dose, of 10 times the potency.


13 posted on 05/23/2011 7:41:13 AM PDT by it_rr (kervan yürür)
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To: topcat54

Gary DeMar must be a bitter and small minded man if he feels the need to ceaselessly harp on this topic. DeMar has his own bizarre interpretation of the end times that is perhaps even more out of step than Harold Camping.

As for Harold Camping, we shouldn’t be surprised that the adversary would push him and other to unbiblical extremes - for the very purpose of smearing the truth with a “guilt by association” argument. In the 1st century, Paul’s gospel of grace was mimicked as “sin as you please”.


14 posted on 05/23/2011 7:43:11 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Here’s a little common sense (at least to me) about God speaking to and through people in general, and God does do both.

When God speaks to you, that message is for you, and you alone. It is essentially meaningless to others, however deeply felt it may be to you.

When God speaks through you, the more you think about it, (or add mixed case, mixed font blinking highlights to it), or repeat it, ...the less of the real message gets through.

Just my .02 FWIW


15 posted on 05/23/2011 7:51:35 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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"The end of the world" is going to come for each of us, sooner or later. For most of us, it will probably be before the Second Coming. Our own personal "end of the world is the one to prepare for. If you're ready for that, you'll be ready for the Second Coming, in case that happens while you're still around.

Jesus's message, "repent and reform," applies regardless of when the Second Coming takes place.

16 posted on 05/23/2011 8:10:45 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: topcat54

These guys are only dangerous if they have an audience. I think those who believed it was the end of the world were only wishful thinkers.


17 posted on 05/23/2011 8:16:15 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: topcat54

Sola Scriptura is what I say it is fails.


20 posted on 05/23/2011 9:19:14 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: topcat54
I am currently reading this book. A much different story than Camping's

BTW, this book was written in 1881; you wouldn't believe how accurate it is!

The End of the Present World
 
Reading this book was one of the greatest graces of my life!"
— St. Thérèse of Lisieux

In the late nineteenth century, Father Charles Arminjon, a priest from the mountains of southeastern France, assembled his flock in the town cathedral to preach a series of conferences to help them turn their thoughts away from this life’s mean material affairs—and toward the next life’s glorious spiritual reward. His wise and uncompromising words deepened in them the spirit of recollection that all Christians must have: the abiding conviction that heavenly aims, not temporal enthusiasms, must guide everything we think, say, and do.

When Father Arminjon’s conferences were later published in a book, many others were able to reap the same benefit—including fourteen-year-old Thérèse Martin, then on the cusp of entering the Carmelite convent in Lisieux. Reading it, she says, “plunged my soul into a happiness not of this earth.” Young Thérèse, filled with a sense of “what God reserves for those who love him, and seeing that the eternal rewards had no proportion to the light sacrifices of life,” copied out numerous passages and memorized them, “repeating unceasingly the words of love burning in my heart.”

Now the very book that so inspired the Little Flower is available for the first time in English.

Let the pages of The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life fill you with the same burning words of love, with the same ardent desire to know God above all created things, that St. Thérèse gained from them. Let them also enrich your understanding of certain teachings of the Faith that can often seem so mysterious, even frightening:

  • The signs that will precede the world’s end
  • The coming of the Antichrist, and how to recognize him
  • The Judgment and where it may send us: heaven, hell, and purgatory
  • Biblical end-times prophecy: how to read it and not be deceived

    Jesus commands us to be ever-watchful for his return, and ever-mindful that we have no lasting city on earth. The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life is an invaluable aid to inculcating in your spirit that heavenly orientation, without which true human happiness cannot be found—in this world or the next.


38 posted on 05/23/2011 2:54:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This is a stupid article. As I understand this, everyone who teaches grace is guilty of causing sin...because there are those who abuse the teaching of grace.

TC, if you’re gonna post anti-premillenial material can you at least try to post something from someone with a brain?


46 posted on 05/24/2011 8:45:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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