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To: it_ürür

The disasters Jesus described, and those described in His Revelation, are to be world wide, not local.

Do you believe the flood of Noah was local, too?

I don’t.

The Olivet Discourse (Matt 24, Mark 13) makes it clear, at least to me, that these things are world-wide, and that they occur over a long, but undefined, period of time. “And the gospel must first be published among all nations” (Mark 13:10) clearly had not happened yet when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. What does “all” mean?

We homeschool our children, nine of whom are still at home with us, and we are hoping to make better lives for our grandchildren, of which we already have ten, so far.

I have no idea when the Lord is returning. Could be today. Could be hundreds of years from now. Jesus said, “No man knows.” Jesus said, “As a thief in the night.” That’s good enough for me.

We believe that, at the end of the World, the Lord will provide for His Church, either leading them into safety or pulling them out before things get really bad. I don’t pretend to know which, nor when.

But I’m not about to sell everything God has given me and give it to some huckster. If a man does not provide for his own family, he is worse than an infidel (1st Timothy 5:8).


43 posted on 05/24/2011 5:16:22 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook
We homeschool our children, nine of whom are still at home with us, and we are hoping to make better lives for our grandchildren, of which we already have ten, so far.

I am impressed, and very glad, that our teams are on the same side. All of our kids came by short cut (C-section), so we had to be content with four. The world will be a better place because of the children God has entrusted to us, and the grace He lavished upon us to raise them in His fear.

I think you will enjoy THIS SUMMARY of my MS thesis, which refuted the socialization myth 19 years ago.

I believe that the time claims of our Lord's prophecies make better sense if he ge is translated "The Land" (i.e. -- Israel) rather than "The Earth" (i.e. -- the whole globe). I take the first three verses of Revelation literally. If by "soon" and "at hand" and "quickly" Jesus meant 2,000+ years, I'd not send Him out for pizza!

Seriously, though, you are already operating in terms of a longer time horizon than the Camping folks. Give some thought to the possibility that God's Kingdom, Grace, and power are indeed able to progressively transform all of life as the Gospel is preached and lived -- and godly folks who take the Bible literally can rejoice in bigger hopes than Satan wants us to have.

44 posted on 05/24/2011 7:43:50 AM PDT by it_rr (but the caravan moves along)
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