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Harold Camping says May 21, 2011 was ‘invisible judgment day,’ world will end October 21, 2011
WaPo ^ | 5/23/11 | Elizabeth Teneby

Posted on 05/24/2011 2:09:12 AM PDT by markomalley

Radio evangelist Harold Camping said in a special broadcast Monday night on his radio program Open Forum that his predicted May 21, 2011 Rapture was “an invisible judgment day“ that he has come to understand as a spiritual, rather than physical event.

“We had all of our dates correct,” Camping insisted, clarifying that he now understands that Christ’s May 21 arrival was “a spiritual coming” ushering in the last five months before the final judgment and destruction.

In an hour and a half broadcast, Camping walked listeners through his numerological timeline, insisting that his teaching has not changed and that the world will still end on October 21, 2011.

“It wont be spiritual on October 21st,” Camping said, adding, “the world is going to be destroyed all together, but it will be very quick.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Other Christian
KEYWORDS: camping; haroldcamping; nexttimeforsure; thistimeforsure
So that's it, huh?

Well...I wonder what he'll say when October 21st comes and goes? Of course, at 89, he may have faced his own "particular judgment" by that time, but that's another issue altogether.

1 posted on 05/24/2011 2:09:19 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Cool...won’t have to by the wife a birthday present


2 posted on 05/24/2011 2:28:48 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: markomalley

Unusual Doctrines (excerpted)

Russell taught his followers the non-existence of hell and the annihilation of unsaved people (a doctrine he picked up from the Adventists), the non-existence of the Trinity (he said only the Father, Jehovah, is God), the identification of Jesus with Michael the Archangel, the reduction of the Holy Spirit from a person to a force, the mortality (not immortality) of the soul, and the return of Jesus in 1914.

When 1914 had come and gone, with no Jesus in sight, Russell modified his teachings and claimed Jesus had, in fact, returned to Earth, but that his return was invisible. His visible return would come later, but still very soon. It would result in the final conflict between God and the Devil—the forces of good and the forces of evil—in which God would be victorious. This conflict is known to Witnesses as the battle of Armageddon, and just about everything the Witnesses teach centers around this doctrine.

{http://www.catholic.com/library/History_of_the_Jehovah_Witnesesses.asp}

I thought it sounded familiar.


3 posted on 05/24/2011 2:32:27 AM PDT by inthaihill (Living in an interesting paradise - Thailand!)
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To: markomalley
Blasphemy is apparently better than admitting you were wrong, eh Harold?

Ah, the joys of private judgment.

4 posted on 05/24/2011 2:38:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: markomalley

3rd times the charm! lol


5 posted on 05/24/2011 2:57:47 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: RatsDawg

Either 3rd time’s a charm, or 3 strikes. I suppose October 21st will tell, won’t it?


6 posted on 05/24/2011 3:02:18 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: markomalley

What if this guy talked and no one reported on it? Right now I’d say his tax exempt religious scam needs investigation


7 posted on 05/24/2011 3:21:41 AM PDT by databoss
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To: markomalley

Somebody needs to get a cane and drag that man off the stage. This is just pathetic.


8 posted on 05/24/2011 3:58:39 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: markomalley

It sounds to me like we’re on double secret probation!


9 posted on 05/24/2011 4:01:07 AM PDT by will of the people
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To: markomalley

Deuteronomy 18:22

That's all you need to know about Harold Camping.

10 posted on 05/24/2011 4:09:27 AM PDT by Publius Maximus (God, please let 2012 come quickly...)
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To: markomalley

Harold Camping does not understand God.


11 posted on 05/24/2011 4:24:00 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: markomalley
He's got the math all wrong.

The world will end on the 21st day of the 21st month of the 21st Millenium!

12 posted on 05/24/2011 4:42:14 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: Publius Maximus

For the biblically challenged: Deuteronomy 18:22 says “when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.


13 posted on 05/24/2011 4:43:02 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: markomalley
I predicted it:

samtheman#5, in Radio host who predicted End of Days to speak

His earlier apocalyptic prediction in 1994 also was a bust, but he said it didn't happen because of a mathematical error.
This one failed due to a grammatical error. The meaning of the word "is".

When I'm right, I'm right!

14 posted on 05/24/2011 4:56:00 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: markomalley
In an hour and a half broadcast, Camping walked listeners through his numerological timeline, insisting that his teaching has not changed and that the world will still end on October 21, 2011.

“It wont be spiritual on October 21st,” Camping said, adding, “the world is going to be destroyed all together, but it will be very quick.”

What about the seven years of tribulation? Did I somhow miss the great earthquake? How did I miss the three witnesses being dead and lying around for three and a half days?

15 posted on 05/24/2011 5:03:48 AM PDT by FreeMaine
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To: Jeff Winston

Hopefully...unless this fraud wants to keep straying his flock from the truth and picks another date.


16 posted on 05/24/2011 5:08:32 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: markomalley

“Yesterday was the end of the world as we know it. It was totally destroyed. From now on everything is different because Jesus came back (only the truly saved can see Him though). And I will now be known as ‘Trixie’.”, Harold Camping on October 22nd 2011


17 posted on 05/24/2011 5:23:03 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: RatsDawg

I think Camping should immediately take all his money and assets and give it to charity. He won’t be needing it and it will show just how sincere he really is. The sad part about this is that there will be a large number of people who will continue to believe this foolishness. Don’t they have Bibles? Or, can’t they read?


18 posted on 05/24/2011 5:26:17 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Young Werther

>> The world will end on the 21st day of the 21st month of the 21st Millenium!

Does that month have an “r” in it? I need to know in case they have oysters on the menu where I’ll be eating.


19 posted on 05/24/2011 5:34:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: markomalley

I don’t know for sure — only the Father knows! — but I’m guessing Oct. 21st will turn out to be yet another “lack of judgment” day for Camping. Double entendre intended.


20 posted on 05/24/2011 5:36:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: inthaihill

Thats like the mormons

Jesus was supposed to come back about 1890

Joey Smith said so in 1835...

“President Smith then stated ... it was the will of God that those who went to Zion, with a determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, should be ordained to the ministry, and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, or the coming of the Lord, which was nigh—even fifty-six years should wind up the scene.”

(History of the (Mormon) Church, volume 2, page 182)


21 posted on 05/24/2011 5:37:01 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
And the Russellites, after a number of false calls, claimed their last one was correct and that Jesus did return, but did so "spiritually" and that's why no one saw it.
22 posted on 05/24/2011 5:39:29 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Outlaw Woman

Sigh. I have an idea that his family would love to do the “drag him offstage” thing, but have long since given up. He reads scripture like one would read tea leaves in the bottom of a cup. A sorry end state for somebody I knew many years ago as a really nice guy.


23 posted on 05/24/2011 5:40:03 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: markomalley
an invisible judgment day

Isn't that every day?

24 posted on 05/24/2011 5:41:26 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Tom Bombadil

The disturbing thing is that some people put so much faith in what this guy preached, they spent their life savings. I can’t get over that man in NY that was astounded that the ‘end’ didn’t happen. He spent his life savings to run ads to ‘warn’ others. Just tragic and heartbreaking.


25 posted on 05/24/2011 5:53:00 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: markomalley

If Camping is so convinced of his newest prediction, then he should liquidate all his assets & use the money to feed, clothe, shelter, & minister to the poor until the end. I notice he DID NOT do this prior to his 2 previous predictions of doom.

I’ll bet the farm that on Oct. 22, Camping will have even more wealth accumulated, scammed (stolen) from ignorant & vulnerable Christians.

There is a particularly searing place in hell ...


26 posted on 05/24/2011 5:57:06 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: markomalley

Does Camping think so little of Jesus that he believes he’s been given special insight that even the Son of God wasn’t given? Does he believe that his enlightened study of the Word— God’s Word —and his analysis of supposedly relevant numbers isn’t something that is readily available to Jesus in the blink of an eye?

If Jesus doesn’t know it, it’s unknowable— especially by us— and there’s a specific purpose behind that.

This man is fatally foolish, and has unmitigated gall.


27 posted on 05/24/2011 5:57:11 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: markomalley

I’d be okay with that. I’m so tired of everyone and everything.


28 posted on 05/24/2011 6:13:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Just what this family needs: more smugness.)
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To: markomalley

Somebody needs to take a Baseball Bat to this POS!


29 posted on 05/24/2011 6:13:32 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers!)
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To: Tom Bombadil
somebody I knew many years ago as a really nice guy.

senility perhaps? I think he's 89

30 posted on 05/24/2011 6:16:12 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: markomalley

Another deadline! I really hate time-stress. It’s going to be the death of me yet...


31 posted on 05/24/2011 6:21:27 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Nervous Tick
Yes! It's named after Napolean's favorite book. In fact it is believed that Napolean carried this book in his tunic on his chest over his heart. Whenever he is pictured he is shown with his hand over his heart ans touching the book,

. The Book is Goethe's " the Sorrows of Young Werther."


32 posted on 05/24/2011 6:35:53 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: BubbaJunebug
Cool...won’t have to by the wife a birthday present

If she finds that out beforehand, your world may end quicker. ;-)

33 posted on 05/24/2011 6:39:06 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: markomalley

Camping is insane..


34 posted on 05/24/2011 6:42:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: markomalley
Camping needs to get the facts by reading this book.

I am currently reading this book. A much different story than Camping's

BTW, this book was written in 1881; you wouldn't believe how applicable and accurate it is!

The End of the Present World
 
Reading this book was one of the greatest graces of my life!"
— St. Thérèse of Lisieux

In the late nineteenth century, Father Charles Arminjon, a priest from the mountains of southeastern France, assembled his flock in the town cathedral to preach a series of conferences to help them turn their thoughts away from this life’s mean material affairs—and toward the next life’s glorious spiritual reward. His wise and uncompromising words deepened in them the spirit of recollection that all Christians must have: the abiding conviction that heavenly aims, not temporal enthusiasms, must guide everything we think, say, and do.

When Father Arminjon’s conferences were later published in a book, many others were able to reap the same benefit—including fourteen-year-old Thérèse Martin, then on the cusp of entering the Carmelite convent in Lisieux. Reading it, she says, “plunged my soul into a happiness not of this earth.” Young Thérèse, filled with a sense of “what God reserves for those who love him, and seeing that the eternal rewards had no proportion to the light sacrifices of life,” copied out numerous passages and memorized them, “repeating unceasingly the words of love burning in my heart.”

Now the very book that so inspired the Little Flower is available for the first time in English.

Let the pages of The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life fill you with the same burning words of love, with the same ardent desire to know God above all created things, that St. Thérèse gained from them. Let them also enrich your understanding of certain teachings of the Faith that can often seem so mysterious, even frightening:

  • The signs that will precede the world’s end
  • The coming of the Antichrist, and how to recognize him
  • The Judgment and where it may send us: heaven, hell, and purgatory
  • Biblical end-times prophecy: how to read it and not be deceived

    Jesus commands us to be ever-watchful for his return, and ever-mindful that we have no lasting city on earth. The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life is an invaluable aid to inculcating in your spirit that heavenly orientation, without which true human happiness cannot be found—in this world or the next.


35 posted on 05/24/2011 7:44:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Didn’t the Jehova Witnesses also predict earlier end-dates and then keep setting them later?


36 posted on 05/24/2011 8:03:44 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: markomalley
His pride is astounding. He's now been proven to be wrong TWICE, and yet he still goes on about how he's right. He can't even apologize to all the people he duped. If his followers still believe him after this, then they need to get their heads examined. Poor mindless dupes.

I can see it now on 10/22. "But...but...it really was the end of the world yesterday, because Camping said so."

37 posted on 05/24/2011 10:58:06 AM PDT by Luna (Evil will not triumph. God is at the helm.)
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To: Salvation

Interesting post. Thanks.


38 posted on 05/24/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Even a more interesting read.

A couple of things — lots about the anti-Christ

At the last judgment everyone will be gathered together (all the people of the earth of all time) in the Valley of Josaphat. (Probably above it.)

Perpetual light in heaven — God is light, no need for sun or moon.

Just thtree little tidbits.


39 posted on 05/24/2011 3:47:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Don’t forget the William Miller, Martin Luther, Hong Xiuquan (Taiping rebellion).

The hallmark of heretics. It almost commands some respect to Jean Calvin for NOT claiming a date of the end of the world.


40 posted on 05/25/2011 2:18:34 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Tennessee Nana
Jesus was supposed to come back about 1890

Jesus himself said he was coming back within the lifetime of some of his followers.

Matt 16:28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

oops...didnt happen.

41 posted on 05/25/2011 10:24:54 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: markomalley
October 21??? Oh noes! That's Simchat Torah!!!

Something tells me the end of the world may be as invisible as its judgment was.

42 posted on 05/25/2011 10:38:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: markomalley

It’s “Double Secret” Judgement Day.


43 posted on 05/25/2011 10:39:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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