Posted on 05/25/2011 2:34:26 PM PDT by wmfights
The New Testament documents, for example, have more manuscript authority than any 10 works of antiquity put together. As mentioned earlier, we have over 24,000 manuscript copies of portions of the New Testament dating from before A.D. 350. In comparison, the number two book in all of ancient history for manuscript authority is the Iliad with 643 manuscripts.
Dr. John Warwick Montgomery, dean of the Simon Greenleaf School of Law and a noted theologian, comments on this: "To be skeptical of the resultant text of the New Testament books is to allow all of classical antiquity to slip into obscurity, for no documents of the ancient period are as well attested bibliographically as the New Testament."31
Footnotes are at the link.
I thought this article was pretty good breaking down the claims of islam.
In addition to these evidences we can also add the findings of modern archaeology. Time after time archaeology has vindicated biblical accounts which had previously been ridiculed as being grossly inaccurate.35 Concerning this, Nelson Glueck, a world-famous Jewish archaeologist, went so far as to say that "it may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference."36
In any responsible examination of the biblical documents the evidence for their reliability comes out positive. Even well-known secular historians accept the biblical accounts as being historically reliable. A.N. Sherwin-White, a non-Christian, accepts without question the essential reliability of the Gospels and the Book of Acts:
For Acts the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming...any attempt to reject its historicity in matters of detail must now appear absurd. Roman historians have long taken it for granted.37
It is very interesting to note that Yusuf Ali, in his widely used English translation of the Quran, twice cites Sir Frederick Kenyon as a renowned authority.38 Kenyon, formerly the principal curator of the British Museum, was one the worlds greatest authorities on textual criticism of ancient works. Concerning the textual reliability of the Bible, he concluded that "the Christian can take the whole Bible in his hand and say without fear or hesitation that he holds in it the true Word of God."39
I thought you might find this interesting in light of earlier discussions with atheists that disputed the reliability of Scripture.
There’s no comparison between Christianity and Islam. Or between Christ and Baal.
What similarity is there between preaching the Gospel of salvation and forcing people to convert or die (or be taxed)?
Christianity isn’t even a religion. It’s The Way and it was taught first by God come down to dwell among men, not a warped pedophile.
For me it’s simple.
Compare the lives of Jesus and Mohammed.
Jesus healed the sick, cast out demons, and raised the dead. He gave His own life as a sacrifice of atonement for the sins of the whole world.
Mohammed was a pirate, a warrior, a mass murderer, a torturer, an executioner, a thief, a liar, a rapist, a pedophile, a polygamist, an adulterer, a slave trader, a truce-breaker, a racist, a Jew-hater, an unspeakably cruel tyrant, and all-around genocidal savage. He delighted in the suffering of others.
Cities had run on information coming back from such oracles and prophets for many centuries, and then the whole thing collapsed, the information turned into mush, and it became dangerous to listen to them. That's why Zechariah admonished parents to simply kill children who went on trying to use their minds that way. The first paragraph of the Book of Hebrews describes prophecy as a thing of the distant past at the time of Jesus.
ANYBODY claiming to be a prophet within the last 2500 years is a liar, a con man, and a BS artist. That includes Muhammed (MHBH), Joseph Smith, AND St. John "The Devine(TM)". The book of revelations got included in the Bible by some sort of a 5/4 vote which the 9-person electorate simply got wrong.
That's one of the things I like about Jesus. His ministery was entirely in this world, with this world's people. There is nothing in the New Testament about Jesus flying off to heaven on a magic carpet or a magic bird, sitting around on some mountain until he "attained enlightenment(TM)", or sitting around in some cave for 30 years until he started to hallucinate, that's what LSD is supposed to be for...
Thanks for posting this. It’s a good, well-reasoned article and -— conident it’ll be useful to me in the future -— I’m keeping my hands on it!
Actually, as to the “eloquence” of the Qu’ran, our Metropolitan Archbishop +Philip [Saliba], whose native language is Arabic, says that the Qu’ran is actually dreadful Arabic, not at all poetic as the Muslims claim. There are also passages which make no sense as Arabic, but make perfect sense as East Syriac.
This latter observation (made by a German orientalist) confirms the tradition among Arab Christians that Mohammed started his preaching as a Christian missionary from the (Nestorian) Church of the East, and then went rogue, setting himself up as a warlord, preaching his own inventions (or delusions). I have speculated that “the Angel Gabriel”, who is said to have dictated things, was, in the first instance, Mar Gabriel, the Bishop of what is now Mosul at the time Mohammed began preaching , and that he was titled “Angel” after the manner of the titling of bishops in the Apocalypse of St. John, and the still-extant title of the Orthodox Bishop of Bosra-Haran, “the Angel of Haran”.
This provides a context that makes a great deal of sense. A number of other false prophets started out as Christians, then went on to become lethal polygamists -- Joe Smith, Jim Jones, Hong, "God's Chinese son" ...
I’d never heard this bfore. Fascinating.
I agree. However, that truthful statement would end all conversation with a muslim and the opportunity to witness would be gone. The vast majority of muslims are born into islam. They make no conscious choice to become a muslim. They are raised within this totalitarian system with no criticism of it allowed. They have no knowledge of islam's contradictions, or the foundation of Christianity.
One reason islam has grown is the lack of a response from Christians.
Muslims would not disagree. They believe Jesus was a great Prophet and will assist the Mahdi in the last days.
He gave His own life as a sacrifice of atonement for the sins of the whole world.
Muslims say this is a lie of a corrupted Bible.
So how do you refute this?
Was Jesus?
The book of revelations got included in the Bible by some sort of a 5/4 vote which the 9-person electorate simply got wrong.
Not true. You will find The Revelation of Jesus Christ included in manuscripts predating 200 AD.
FWIW, if you're trying to witness to a muslim do it one on one, never in a group. In a group they will be compelled to defend their faith. Also, if you can get them to read Scripture it's the best way to get started. The Book of Luke is a great starting point.
There is little doubt that his misunderstanding the Trinity contributed to his confusion. Most muslims believe the Trinity for Christians is God the Father, Mary and Jesus.
I have speculated that the Angel Gabriel, who is said to have dictated things, was, in the first instance, Mar Gabriel, the Bishop of what is now Mosul at the time Mohammed began preaching ,
It's an interesting theory. I'm more inclined to hold the conventional view that muhammed's original thoughts were correct. He believed a demon had possessed him in the cave and it was the friend/relative of his wife a Nestorian monk that convinced him he was a prophet. Either way the product of these "visions" the Quran does not measure up to the claims that are made about it.
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Mat 11:9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.
Jesus was not a prophet. That would be like the bosses son working as a janitor.
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